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Oct 8th, 2006 at 2:54pm

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My 4½ yo son chose to watch F-1 over NASCAR... Sad  He redeemed himself after Talledega started, but still... Sad

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Reply #1 - Oct 8th, 2006 at 3:40pm

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My 4½ yo son chose to watch F-1 over NASCAR... Sad  He redeemed himself after Talledega started, but still... Sad

Grin



When he tells you he wants to be an airsteward and not a pilot, then you should be worried. However in the mean time,
Good boy!


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Reply #2 - Oct 8th, 2006 at 3:41pm

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Go Formula 1!  8)
 

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Reply #3 - Oct 8th, 2006 at 3:50pm

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*sigh*  some scars will never heal... Sad
 

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Reply #4 - Oct 8th, 2006 at 3:59pm

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let him enjoy the final few races of Michael Schumacher. one of those drivers never to be forgotten.
 
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Reply #5 - Oct 8th, 2006 at 8:41pm

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When he tells you he wants to be an airsteward and not a pilot, then you should be worried. However in the mean time,
Good boy!


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I bet airstewards like NASCAR and pilots like F-1.
 

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Reply #6 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 4:08am

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I bet airstewards like NASCAR and pilots like F-1.



In the industry, we say, better your son is a ballet dancer than an air steward. Unfortunately, being a steward brings certain stereo typing. Mind you some of the stewards I know don't help themselves in this area at all. However the privacy of your own room etc.

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Reply #7 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 5:05am

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Nascar is sooooooooo boring Roll Eyes F1 isn't much better!
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Reply #8 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 9:49am

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I used to watch F1 in the early 1980s...

It was fun and exciting, but headed in the wrong direction, technologically. If I remember correctly.. they came close to introducing a traction-control system that was so advanced; all the driver had to do was stand on the throttle and pick good lines through the corners. Braking, power and even gear selection would have been done by computer.

The engine technology got out of hand too. The computer-controlled engines were running  somewhere in the 14,000 - 17,000 rpm range.. with pneumatic valves; using fuel so exotic and dangerous that for a few years, they didn't even allow refueling; the entire race had to be run on one tank-full.

I'll admit ignorance, as I haven't followed F1 since then; because it was getting to the point where it was just whichever team had the biggest budget, and didn't really matter who was driving.

Ironically.. NASCAR is popular in the USA for the same reason soccer is popular world-wide. It's simple, straight-forward and easy to understand. The engines are pretty much 40 year-old, American V8s. No fuel injection; no multi-valve; no turbo-charging and relatively simple chassis (solid rear axles and simple A-arm front suspensions). Any team with a reasonable budget can be competitive. The sad part of NASCAR is that it's not really NASCAR, and hasn't been since around 1982. The cars don't even remotely resemble their real-world counterparts, and are actually all the same, under lightly veiled sheet metal.

Wouldn't the best of both worlds be fun ? A truly manufacturer-based sanctioning body on a world-wide scale ? An international "NASCAR" where Toyota, Chevrolet, Audi, etc... had to put up race cars based on real cars every weekend !


EDIT:  I know that there's always been something like that.. SCCA, IMSA and any number of smaller sanctioning bodies.. What I mean is.. a commitment from the factories to make it BIG and international and well covered.
 
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Reply #9 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 2:33pm

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Nascar is sooooooooo boring Roll Eyes F1 isn't much better!
Moto GP forever 8) 8) 8)


Or at the least have the Moto GP announcers give lessons to the Nascar & F-1 announcers.  Wink
 

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Reply #10 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 2:34pm

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There are a number of car racing series that use REAL cars that are closely based on the ones you can buy. Then there is WRC which in its Gp. N guise really is cars you can buy and rally yourself... Gp. A being a bit more sophisticated.
Alas Americans have never really been being on rallying like the rest of the world. It is far more exciting than watching adverts going in a circle at a couple of hundred miles an hour Wink

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Reply #11 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 2:40pm

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When he tells you he wants to be an air steward and not a pilot, then you should be worried. [/size]

Matt


Kevin...

I would be even more worried if he told you he wanted to be an Air Stewardess....Shocked... Shocked.... Shocked...!


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Reply #12 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 2:44pm

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Sounds like you got a smart kid on your hands Kevin Wink He knows fast when he sees it
 

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Reply #13 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 10:53pm

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There are a number of car racing series that use REAL cars that are closely based on the ones you can buy. Then there is WRC which in its Gp. N guise really is cars you can buy and rally yourself... Gp. A being a bit more sophisticated.
Alas Americans have never really been being on rallying like the rest of the world. It is far more exciting than watching adverts going in a circle at a couple of hundred miles an hour Wink

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We have a SCCA sanctioned rally series over here, as well as other amateur & pro events. The rally races are usually seen on the Outdoor Channel or Outdoor Life, don't remember which. They have classes from pro down to novice an run a lot in the north central area of the country.
Then there's the John Cooper Mini Challenge in England, shown on MAVtv over here. Great stuff. Harkens me back to the grand old days of auto racing when men raced for the speed, the glory, and the girl.  Grin
 

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Reply #14 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 11:37pm

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Real men don't use restrictor plates!


Let's see you F-1 pansies top THIS!


 

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Reply #15 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 11:40pm

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real men dont need full roll cages a roof, doors and windows Wink
 
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Reply #16 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 11:50pm

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Let's see you F-1 pansies top THIS!



Do you really want to go there?  F-1 (and open wheel racing in general) have had some horrific wrecks.
 

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Reply #17 - Oct 10th, 2006 at 12:37am

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Why would anyone want to top that? I mean the object is to cross the finish line first, not wad up your heap in turn 4. Or was it turn 2, or 3, or 1, they all look the same.  Grin Grin
 

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some pretty bad ones in here: http://www.f1crashes.zoomshare.com/1.html
 

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Reply #19 - Oct 10th, 2006 at 8:30pm

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some pretty bad ones in here: http://www.f1crashes.zoomshare.com/1.html

Those weren't too bad compared to some in the 1970's/80's

Try Tom Pryce 1977 Kyalami Sad

And if you want open wheel in general, I have a whole stash of IRL/CART
 

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Reply #20 - Oct 11th, 2006 at 10:36am

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sorry, but....smart kid. like CraigL said, real men dont need full roll cages, a roof, doors, and windows
 

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Reply #21 - Oct 22nd, 2006 at 8:54am

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Sounds to me like kevins son got bored of left turns.  Wink Tongue Grin
 

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