Simviation Forum - FSX Damage

Sep 20^th, 2006 at 12:45pm

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I'm sure this has already been brought up somewhere but, will there be damage effects in FSX or still the same crappy crash effects?

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Reply #1 - Sep 20^th, 2006 at 1:48pm

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Some care about the crash effects, some don't for one reason or another.

Since I don't like crashing planes, it's no loss for me if FSX hasen't improved in terms of crash effects. We'll always get better effects anyways from major addons. So, you shouldn't worry.

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Reply #2 - Sep 20^th, 2006 at 1:57pm

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I agree with you. I was just wondering if they had any default crash effects coming. I dont like crashing airplanes either. But everyone has the occasional mishap when theyre out screwing around in the Extra or my personal favorite, the Cap 10

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Reply #3 - Sep 20^th, 2006 at 2:03pm

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Some care about the crash effects, some don't for one reason or another.

Since I don't like crashing planes, it's no loss for me if FSX hasen't improved in terms of crash effects. We'll always get better effects anyways from major addons. So, you shouldn't worry.

except when trying to catch a baron etc Grin

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no doubt though someone will make a crash effects package when the sim is finally released

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Reply #4 - Sep 20^th, 2006 at 2:22pm

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I'd "enjoy" having some more significant and realistically modeled crash effects than the sim just saying a nice pop up of "crashed" on the screen. Somehow it gives the meaning of what just happened to me far more impact (no pun intended Wink

).

I don't deliberately go around crashing....and I realise that having crash effects might lead some people to crash planes on purpose...... but when I have just REALLY screwed up....I want to really underrstand that I just killed myself....... and maybe a lot of others. Or that I just damaged some expensive hardware.

Not to "glory" in the destruction (ooohhhh ....aaaahhhhh!) .....but to "feel" it in my gut more what just happened, and to see the real magnitude of the mistake I made...... so that I can LEARN from the situation how not to repeat that terrible mistake.

Not to mention........ did I just collapse a nose gear and make a survivable landing anyway...... or did I collapse the nose gear and then the nose hit the ground with force enough to flip the plane over and then the fuel in the ruptured wing tanks caught fire. Those are VERY different scenarios that I could learn from......both of which certainly are bad........ but one was clearly worse than the other. Did I do $1000 worth of damage to my aircraft....... or $1,000,000.....or $10,000,000?

In the sim....you get the luxury of doing this kind of stuff. It is a luxury of using such a simulator. In the real world you do not usually get this opportuinity too often.

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Reply #5 - Sep 20^th, 2006 at 2:29pm

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Reply #6 - Sep 20^th, 2006 at 2:30pm

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John you hit the nail on the head.

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Reply #7 - Sep 20^th, 2006 at 5:21pm

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The crash damage will be the same as from FS9. At least that's what I saw in a video.

I don't like crashing in FS because there is virtually no crash modeling. If they modeled realistic damage I would try different things.

In X-Plane you can blow out tires or try landing with a nose gear failure. It's really fun, I wish FS had at least that.

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Reply #8 - Sep 20^th, 2006 at 5:48pm

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I'd "enjoy" having some more significant and realistically modeled crash effects than the sim just saying a nice pop up of "crashed" on the screen. Somehow it gives the meaning of what just happened to me far more impact (no pun intended Wink

).

I don't deliberately go around crashing....and I realise that having crash effects might lead some people to crash planes on purpose...... but when I have just REALLY screwed up....I want to really underrstand that I just killed myself....... and maybe a lot of others. Or that I just damaged some expensive hardware.

Not to "glory" in the destruction (ooohhhh ....aaaahhhhh!) .....but to "feel" it in my gut more what just happened, and to see the real magnitude of the mistake I made...... so that I can LEARN from the situation how not to repeat that terrible mistake.

Not to mention........ did I just collapse a nose gear and make a survivable landing anyway...... or did I collapse the nose gear and then the nose hit the ground with force enough to flip the plane over and then the fuel in the ruptured wing tanks caught fire. Those are VERY different scenarios that I could learn from......both of which certainly are bad........ but one was clearly worse than the other. Did I do $1000 worth of damage to my aircraft....... or $1,000,000.....or $10,000,000?

In the sim....you get the luxury of doing this kind of stuff. It is a luxury of using such a simulator. In the real world you do not usually get this opportuinity too often.

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Reply #9 - Sep 20^th, 2006 at 7:08pm

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N33655,

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Reply #10 - Sep 20^th, 2006 at 7:28pm

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I'd "enjoy" having some more significant and realistically modeled crash effects than the sim just saying a nice pop up of "crashed" on the screen. Somehow it gives the meaning of what just happened to me far more impact (no pun intended Wink

).

I don't deliberately go around crashing....and I realise that having crash effects might lead some people to crash planes on purpose...... but when I have just REALLY screwed up....I want to really underrstand that I just killed myself....... and maybe a lot of others. Or that I just damaged some expensive hardware.

Not to "glory" in the destruction (ooohhhh ....aaaahhhhh!) .....but to "feel" it in my gut more what just happened, and to see the real magnitude of the mistake I made...... so that I can LEARN from the situation how not to repeat that terrible mistake.

Not to mention........ did I just collapse a nose gear and make a survivable landing anyway...... or did I collapse the nose gear and then the nose hit the ground with force enough to flip the plane over and then the fuel in the ruptured wing tanks caught fire. Those are VERY different scenarios that I could learn from......both of which certainly are bad........ but one was clearly worse than the other. Did I do $1000 worth of damage to my aircraft....... or $1,000,000.....or $10,000,000?

In the sim....you get the luxury of doing this kind of stuff. It is a luxury of using such a simulator. In the real world you do not usually get this opportuinity too often.

John, you took the words out of my mouth. This is a sim, and part of the simulation is seeing how we react and what to do in different emergency situations that can't be simulated in real life, (like gear collapse, or a snapped control surface cable, or something).

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Reply #11 - Sep 20^th, 2006 at 11:26pm

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I think its a shame its not included. I mean I don't find screwing up with engine problems fun if I don't go down in fire, instead I stand there like time has froze, only knowing I crashed by the "Crashed" announcement.

Why isn't there really? It's a simulator, if it offends people I don't know what to say, really. I want to be rude about it but I figure, it's better to keep it quiet on things like that.

But overall after screwing around in FSX, I was extremely dissapointed to have the same bs damage.

I've got nothing.

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Reply #12 - Sep 21^st, 2006 at 12:23am

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As far as I know they decided not to model in crash effects after people started reenacting the September 11 attacks for kicks and giggles. At least that's what I had heard through the grapevine, and it made sense.

Even still, they should model in the crash effects, for reasons everyone has already mentioned. We shouldn't all be sheltered from what some idiot is going to do at his own house.

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Reply #13 - Sep 21^st, 2006 at 12:25am

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I meant to check before I uninstalled the beta, but forgot Tongue

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Reply #14 - Sep 21^st, 2006 at 12:52am

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There isn't enhanced crasah effects but there are visible failures such as engine fires:

But hey I don't think Boeing would like it if you crash there planes then show them flying apart Wink

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