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Sep 17^th, 2006 at 11:08am

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Saw it for the first time the other night and it became one of my favorites immediately. What a great movie!

It was amazing how much that character changed in the course of a 2 hour film. He went from spoiled rich kid who hadn't a clue that the outside world even existed to someone who had seen more than most ever dreamed of. It was odd seeing his mother call him Jaime at the end when we (the audience) had become so used to hearing him called Jim. And his father walked right by him without recognizing him.

There's also a great scene where Jim (who is enamored with planes) walks up to a Japanese Zero and touches it with total reverance. He is about to be shot as a sabotuer, when the approaching Japanese pilots recognize that Jim is a kindred spirit. They exchange salutes and life goes on...

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"Learned a new word today. Atom bomb. It was like the God taking a photograph."

IMDB page for "Empire of the Sun"
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Reply #1 - Sep 17^th, 2006 at 9:08pm

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Fantastic movie, always liked it. Christian Bale is a great actor. One thing I've always wondered though, did P-51s actually see action in China? I was under the assumption they were strictly European theatre. I suppose China wasn't exactly the Pacific theatre in the traditional sense however...

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Reply #2 - Sep 17^th, 2006 at 10:05pm

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And how could he see the Atom Bomb in China? I'm pretty sure the Mustang was everywhere by the time the war was over...

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Reply #3 - Sep 17^th, 2006 at 11:27pm

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And how could he see the Atom Bomb in China? I'm pretty sure the Mustang was everywhere by the time the war was over...

Another good point. I'll check the trivia/goofs on imdb tomorrow, need to go to bed now.

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Reply #4 - Sep 19^th, 2006 at 5:12pm

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That's not only a great movie is an master piece an Epic movie by Steven Spielberg 1987,What the Child(Jim Graham) sees its the Ionization of the high atmosphere,(this is a fiction Movie)Im sure I don't think Spielberg made a mistake on that or any of his creation (well exept Jaws 6 bullets 4 air barrels and the agressive white shark like that never exist) ,maybe 20 megatons could make IRL a phenomenon like that hundred miles away from the detonation,This is a book from J. G. Ballard. 1984,I got to see it again
I love the Good taste ,I love when some one mention the Good things ,and brough to our memories Extraordinary & epics movies like that....Like I said Im going to rent it and see it again

Hey, Kevin theres another epic from Spielberg good as that one ,its Schindler's List, But I recomend you not let your childs to see it, its very strong,and based on a true story about the Hitler's Holocaust ....See if you don't like it Ill give your money back Garantee Grin

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Reply #5 - Sep 19^th, 2006 at 5:27pm

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Have you fella's stopped to consider that he may have been in Japan at that point?

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Reply #6 - Sep 19^th, 2006 at 5:42pm

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Empire of the Sun is a 1984 novel by J. G. Ballard. Though it is essentially fiction, it draws extensively on Ballard's experiences in World War II, recounting the story of a young English boy, Jim Graham, who is living with his parents in Shanghai just before its capture by the Japanese. Ballard later wrote a sequel to the book, called The Kindness of Women.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_the_Sun

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Reply #7 - Sep 19^th, 2006 at 10:57pm

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Well they might have SAID he was relocated to Japan!

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Reply #8 - Sep 21^st, 2006 at 7:11pm

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Have you fella's stopped to consider that he may have been in Japan at that point?

I believe he was in China throughout if I recollect correctly.

Nothing on imdb about the P-51s or the a-bomb.

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Reply #9 - Sep 22^nd, 2006 at 2:19am

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That's not only a great movie is an master piece an Epic movie by Steven Spielberg 1987,What the Child(Jim Graham) sees its the Ionization of the high atmosphere,(this is a fiction Movie)Im sure I don't think Spielberg made a mistake on that or any of his creation (well exept Jaws 6 bullets 4 air barrels and the agressive white shark like that never exist) ,maybe 20 megatons could make IRL a phenomenon like that hundred miles away from the detonation,This is a book from J. G. Ballard. 1984,I got to see it again
I love the Good taste ,I love when some one mention the Good things ,and brough to our memories Extraordinary & epics movies like that....Like I said Im going to rent it and see it again

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"Schindler's List" huh? Seems I might have heard of that one before... Wink

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Reply #10 - Sep 22^nd, 2006 at 4:47am

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I believe he was in China throughout if I recollect correctly.

Nothing on imdb about the P-51s or the a-bomb.

From ALROT's link. Quote:

The camp’s population begins a grueling march to Nantow where they are told there will be food. Many die along the way, including Mrs. Victor, a British woman who was Jim's "neighbor" at Soochow. As Jim sits with her body among the war spoils stored in Nantow Stadium by the Japanese, Jim sees a bright light in the sky to the East. He believes it to be Mrs. Victor's soul floating to Heaven but finds out later, through a radio broadcast, that it was the flash from the atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki, hundreds of miles away.

By this time the P-51D was used in the Pacific Theatre. China was also supplied about 50 under lend-lease.

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Reply #11 - Sep 22^nd, 2006 at 6:16am

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One thing I've always wondered though, did P-51s actually see action in China?

In 1987 P-51s were fairly easily available to the company that provided the flying sequences...

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