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I have not been able to post for the few days. After waching this post that was originaly about a member having a question about the Future of the CFS series turn into a Shameless adverticement for CFS3. I have a few things to say.

CFS3 is a good Combat Simulator with some nice features. Like for example if you buy the Firepower addon you will able to use the turren gunner of a B17. Thats something that you can not do with the other Sims at this time. It some nice sceneries that a more third dementions then most of the other Sims have. It also have some nice planes and the only one with a more Dynamic Campaign Generator that allow you effect the future of a campaign. Mine you less Historical base than the other Sims.

The Offline World war one base addon that is a class production by a very nice group of guys. Even dow this does take the away the need for a Dedicated World war one Combat Sim.

The MAW Addon is been promise to bee a pretty good addon on a Theater of war that has not been properly represented at this in the Sim communitty. But at this moment its only a bunch of Screen Shots has been use as a excuse to Bluff to intimitate other members and to show off CFS3 over the Sims. I hope they can finnish it without the need to bee boustful and allow the community to enjoy it as one more addon for the communitty to enjoy and not sold as the ultimate addon in the Hobby.

Now let me tell something that CFS3 will not give you.

The diversity and flexibility of CFS2. With over 1,500 planes.

A world map with the ability to create missions all over the World.

With more than 500 Airbases spread out over the world.

With countless Texures and Sceneries that can bee place over the World.

Mission and Camapaigns that represent basically all the AirForces that participated in World war two.

You can even Build missions and campaigns for the Chinese Airforce flying over China. Can you believe
that!

Just Check This post on how planes to fly in with CFS2. Thats a diversity that CFS3 cannot match. Especially since CFS3 developer most likely will never build a serous addon for the Pacific Theater.

In  CFS2 the developer are very balance and interested in all aspect of World war two Aviation. Thats very refreshing.

Check this post out and see How many planes this Sim offer.

I have decide to make a post placing most of the links I have with CFS2 planes. I hope to you like this post. My only objective is to help fellow members to find most of the planes that have been develope  throughout  the years for this community by its dedicated developers.

My first recomdation if you to install Acman from this Website that will anable you to install most if not all this planes in different Hangars and in different CFS2 Installs.

1.http://fly.to/mwgfx#

                        A WORD OF CAUTION

When you use the Acman and create a new Hangar you need to include the stock planes. What you can do is to make a New Folder and place a copy of the Stock planes in it. When you make the new Hangar just copy  the stock planes from this Folder. Remember also that you are limit to 95 to 100 planes per Hangar. You do get up to18 Hangar with this program.


My secound recommendation is for you to install this utility from Sim-outhouse that will allow you to change planes and ships with in a Miision and Campaigns in secounds.

It also will give the ability to change whole planes Hangars and convert them into Ai Bandits in Quick mission.

This way you do not have activate plane after planes manualy. Its call mk_cfs2_uti2v.zip

2.http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileType=cfs2...

Now let start the best of planes and Skin plus panels available for this Sim.

1.Simviation planes.What great collection:http://www.simviation.com/cfs2aircraft1.htm

2.Sim-outhhouse hundreds of planes. One of favorite Website:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileType=cfs2...

3. Simhouse Skins:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileType=cfs2...

4.Sim-Outhouse outlet planes:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/master_ftp/cfs2/cfs2-aircraft/

5.Sims Outel Skins:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/master_ftp/cfs2/cfs2-skins/

6.Wai planes. It those only have nice planes but one of the P51 avalable in the Sim World:http://acwai.00freehost.com/index.html

7. Netwings planes. One of the great collections of planes ever:http://www.netwings.org/library/CFS2%5FPlanes/

6.Netwings Skins. Very nice ones indeed:http://www.netwings.org/library/CFS2%5FSkins/

7.World war one planes available right here:http://www.aer.ip3.co.uk/cfs2_9.htm

8. A nice Web for planes:http://myzone59.ath.cx/combatflightsimulator/avions.htm

9.Avsim a nice all around Website for planes and o
ther things:http://www.avsim.com/

10.http://www.big.or.jp/~chah_s/beyond1945/htm-e/6/index.html

11.Nice Mosquito:http://bescaravage.free.fr/bruno/pages/entrez.htm

11. World war one and P26 planes:http://www.mwsteckel.com/CFS2.html

12. Absuad self auto install upgraded planes available Here:http://www.absquad.net/CFS2_ABSquad.htm
13Nice

He177 :http://www.geocities.com/kg200hangar/cfs2aircraft.html

14.French Web with lots of planes. You will figure it out:http://cfsfrance.altajeux.com/

15.DAG has Russian planes:http://cfsfrance.altajeux.com/DAG/links.htm

16.French Fighter D520 Dewoitine:http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jm.mermaz/telecharg/d520gmax/d520gmax.htm

17.Website dedicated to the P51:http://www.btinternet.com/~duxford.legends/pages/P51.html

18.Missions and Bf109:http://www.angelfire.com/ab5/cfs2brits/Downloads

19.Easy Kill has nice Skins and effects:http://storage2.free.fr/

20.Easy Kills planes are here:http://storage2.free.fr/

21.Spanish Web with some more planes: http://usuarios.lycos.es/flakiten/

23.This site has many nice Me110 and some other European planes:http://www.groundcrewdesign.com/cfs2planes.htm

24. Av planes:http://www.netwings.org/library/Avhistory%5FCFS2%5FAircraft/

25.This Web also CFS2 planes:http://www.surclaro.com/downloads_c2_240_hitsA.html

26. Best site for Italian planes:http://www.isoliti4gatti.com/warbirds.htm

27.Good site for Ju52:http://www.ju52-3m.ch/models.htm

28.Best site for Ki44:http://pigeonh.free.fr/ki442.htm

29.One of the best Websites for Japanese planes and some German planes as well. I love the Ki43 and Ki84:http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://hago003.hp.infoseek.c...

30. Here is another Website:http://home.iprimus.com.au/mandcsilver/

31.Here is another Japanes Website with some nice Japanese planes:http://yashico.cool.ne.jp/

32. Here is a Website with rare British planes:http://www.pavaservices.com/cfs/

33.http://uk.geocities.com/wily_crocodiley/cfs2/aircraft.html

34.Another British Website with guess what? More British planes. I love their Spitfire and Hurricain. It also has a nice Ki43 with all around view from the cockpit: http://www.raf662.com/modules.php?name=Downloads

35.Modern planes:http://www.anglovirtual.4t.com/photo.html

36.Bruno planes:http://www.br-planes.fr.st/

37.Green Stuart Web includes World war one and two planes. It also includes the only G4MI Betty in this Sim:http://www.domicilium.com/peveril/hangar/hangar.htm

Nows lets talk about IL-2 Pacific Fighter Merge. It has Hundreds of planes and and many Dynamics Historical base Campaigns representing most the most important campaigns in World war two.

Just check this post out and you will what I mean.

http://www.lowengrin.com/news.php

Most important of all you now fly in the Eastern Front with virtualy every plane that participated in that front.

That something that you cannot do with CFS3.


James007

Now Lets talk about the Sim this Forum is base on.


                             CFS1

CFS1 still has place in the community. Its the first one of this series and still the one that gives you the most simple fun to fly with. You see Simplicity has its place in this World. Some time you want to fly and shoot things. Well this is the Sim for it.

I"m going to give you some Websites that will increase your enjoyment of this Sim. I hope you enjoy it as well.

1.http://bandit_55.homestead.com/BANDIT_55.html

2.http://perso.orange.fr/jm.mermaz/aviation.htm

3.http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002987/hangar/soft1-e.html#top

4.http://www.cfsops.com/Scenery/Scenery.htm

5.http://www.absquad.net/

6.http://www.raf662.com/modules.php?name=Downloads

7.http://cfsfrance.altajeux.com/

8.http://www.geocities.com/klu_cfs/download.html

9.http://www.cfsops.com/

10.http://www.jinksboy.com/HOME.html

11.http://www.jinksboy.com/

12.http://www.multicfs.com/

13.http://www.sim-outhouse.com/master_ftp/cfs/

14.http://homepage.ntlworld.com/adrian.camp/RedSkwirrell2006/Dogfighting.htm

15.http://hsquad.katuu.com/

16.
http://www.mnwright.btinternet.co.uk/cfsscene.htm#cfsact

From this Website you can get numerous planes as well.

17.http://www.simviation.com/cfs1aircraft1.htm

Modern planes:

18.http://www.simviation.com/cfs1mod1.htm

A great collections of great missions and campaigns from all over the World.

19.http://www.simviation.com/cfs1missions1.htm

Panels:

20.http://www.simviation.com/cfs1panels1.htm

Ultilities:

21.http://www.simviation.com/cfs1utilitites1.htm

Mics:

22.http://www.simviation.com/cfs1misc1.htm

Sim-Outhouse has a lot of goodies for CFS1 as well:

23.http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=combatfs/pages&page=downloads_cfs

I hope you will fly with this Sim until you drop and not allow any one influence you not to. Every Sim has its value. The more diversity and options we have the better the community and Hobby will be. Lets open doors and share information and Help each other instead of invading each other forums with deceptions and half truths.

I hope you enjoy the information I have given you


James007

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Wrong;  there is no need to buy anything as even the stock bombers in CFS3 have all turret & hand held guns player usable.

Our original "freeware" MOLLY II B-17G has player usable Chin Turret, Right Cheek gun, Left Cheek gun, Top Turret, Radio shack gun, Ball turret, Right waist gun, Left waist gun, tail gun, bombardier & Co-pilot positions.  Plane like the Dauntless, Val, Avenger etc have player usable rear gunner stations & Betty has them all player usable.

BTW once you weed out the not so good of the 1,500 planes what's left to fly & how do you get time to fly them all well?

There are less then 300 quality aircraft visuals available in CFS2 & of those maybe half have well done flight models.

Unfortunately many of the rest are generally cut & paste flight models of other existing planes into them.

One other thing I was not aware there were 1,500 individual WWII combat aircraft developed by the belligerent nations.  It would be interesting for you to provide a list so I can see what I left out of my list.

You make a big deal over the world map but there is no WWII plane that has really long range except a few navy seaplanes & the B-29.  

BTW the CFS3 maps are 1,600 miles across & a B-29A had practical operational radius of 1800 miles so it could fly a normal bombing mission in CFS3 if anyone wanted to spend 11 hours doing it.  

As for MAW & its release you don't have a clue at to its status; So maybe another screen shot of yet another new MAW plane might be enlightening or in your case annoying.

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That's the whole point, a contiguous world map is nice but totally unnecessary to recreate just about any mission flown in WWII because of the planes limited range.

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Actually that's not 100% correct.  Some B-29's were deliberately shown in England to cause misinformation in German intelligence circles.  May B-29's found their way into China, a 11,530-mile journey, involving stops at Marrakech, Cairo, through Iran & since these points were well within a B-29's range to German cities so as far as German intelligence was concerned they were a threat.

Feb.26, 1944... Project 98070, also known as the Pathfinder Project using airplane 41-36963 left Marietta Ga for Bayamon P.R. to go by southern route (to India)
March 1, 1944:  Ordered back to Marietta to take northern route to UK.
March 6, 1944:  Left Gander to St Mawgens.
March 8, 1944:  To Bassingbourne...Flew to British and American bases testing runways for weight carrying capacity and letting the Germans take pictures at high altitude.....the object to make the Germans think the B-29's were to be used against them.  The airplane was shown to many visitors such as Churchill, Eisenhowwer, Tony Spaatz, Chief Air Marshall Tedder, etc.
April 1, 1944:  Left St Mawgens for Marrakesh at 00:56 and flew two hours east before turning south to Marrakesh.
April 2, 1944: Left Marrakesh to Cairo
April 5, 1944:  Cairo to Karachi
April 6, 1944: Karachi to Kharagphur and met there by (Gen) K. B. Wolfe.


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We have proved with MAW that we can create from scratch all new theaters with highly detailed terrain like in Italy, Greece, Yugoslavia   Romania,the Med islands like Malta & Crete, North African ports & cities like Benghazi & Tripoli that we can build any terrain we feel like building in a all new world 1,600 miles on each side.


Famous Greek Landmark

All new Cities

All new ports like Benghazi

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Iwo Jima is about 650 miles south of Tokyo & 650 miles north of the B-29 bases in the Marianas.  That's a run of 1,300 miles & our maps are 1,600 miles wide so no problem if I decide to build one with room to spare.

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I said there are about 300 pretty good visuals & about 150 that also have good flight models, that's still a long long way from 1,500 different aircraft.

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Not exactly as some of our guys have & do.  They also rebuild them for others that do.  From our Home page'

"The 1% process has given us a method to create very high fidelity MS flight models. We're now beginning the next evolution in flight models that model the quirks or personality of the aircraft. To help achieve this, advisor's like the Planes of Fame Museum, http://www.planesoffame.org/ have provided assistance to AvHistory to allow us to more accurately model the aircraft."

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Then maybe you should stop pushing CFS2 so hard.  

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Did you not post this in a CFS3 forum?

"You can Buy CFS2 and CFS3 right here if you want:
1.http://yhst-12000246778232.stores.yahoo.net/aircombatgames.html
There are other places you can Buy this great sims.
James007"

The post above you already mentioned CFS2 so why bother to add to it in a CFS3 forum?

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It is a historical fact & you left out the B-29 touring England for the Germans benefit.

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Its very clear you just don't understand the concept of theater creation.  Maybe someone else can help you as I don't seem to be able to get through.

One more time, There is no MAW map that is used globally. We have the ability to create from scratch a piece of terrain 1,600 miles by 1,600 miles anyplace in the world & replicate, with better fidelity then CFS2 can because CFS3 has better native visual capability, any location in the world we want.

If you don't think we have better native terrain generation capability please post a picture of a city like the one above from CFS2.

Right now in addition to MAW, Spain & Korea are being done.  We are doing the planes for them.  Last time I looked Korea was in the Pacific & based on the size of the map F-86's can fly from bases in Japan over Korea to Mig Alley & if they choose over the Yalu into China....OOPS wait a minute you said we could not fly in China.

As for flying the hump which would get pretty boring quite quickly the distance from Dinjan to Kunming is only 500 miles.  We have already done the Alps so doing the Himalayas would not be verturing into unknown terratory.  

The problem with your base argument is we can build any scenario you come up with even a boring one like flying the hump because the range of the planes fits into our major terrain limitation.

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Its obvious you know next to nothing about flight modeling. All modern combat planes are 'built' & 'flown' on computers well before a single piece of structure is built.  WWII planes are considerably less complex then a modern plane and much easier to computer model. The laws of physics do not change just because a plane is 50 years old.

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You can think whatever you want.  Based on over 500,000 downloads a lot of people think the AvHistory CFS2 planes are very very good in CFS2.  Having built over 100 of them for CFS2 I know our Version 4 CFS3 planes are better by a very wide margin.  Additionally, our CFS2 planes were much better then our CFS planes.  The more you do the more you learn & we have been doing this for about 16 years.

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That is a totally bogus statement & has no merit whatsoever.

Finally, this sentence once again shows your lack of knowledge of modern computer simulations capability. If you can measure it, weight it, determine its power you can very accurately simulate it.

You might want to read this to get up to date as  Dr. Jan Roskam's work is built into our Version 4 flight packages.

http://www.darcorp.com/Company_Profile/Jan_Roskam