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Reply #30 - Jan 4th, 2007 at 9:54am
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didnt the american civil war officialy break out after shots where fired at fort sumter or something like that??

realy should know that spent last yera studying the bloomin conflict!

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Reply #31 - Jan 4th, 2007 at 1:47pm

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eniranjanrao wrote on Nov 11th, 2006 at 9:20am:
I have watched pearl Harbour the old one  25 times on DVD at home i still cannot come to the conclusion that how did the US ignore so many warnings, even on the net after going through so many sites I cannot understand how such a blunder could happen with the loss of so many men.


You have the clear vision of hindsight.  I'm assuming you're referring to Tora Tora Tora.  That's an excellent movie that's tremendously accurate, until it stumbles with that supposed Yamamoto quote about the "sleeping giant".  I've not seen anyone willing to say he never said that quote, but I've read alot on the subject and when anyone refers to the quote, everyone says they can't cooberate it.

But anyway, remember you have the clear vision of hindsight.  Even though we clearly see the blunders, at the time, the blunders weren't so obvious.
 

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Reply #32 - Jan 4th, 2007 at 1:54pm

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didnt the american civil war officialy break out after shots where fired at fort sumter or something like that??

realy should know that spent last yera studying the bloomin conflict!

john


That's correct.  The American Civil War was fascination on a number of levels.  What astounds me is the fact that they went to war with rifles yet maintained the tactics that were developed for muskets.  It was a bloody mess.  As the saying goes, necessity is the mother of inventions.  FINALLY, they learned that lesson at the army level around the time of the Battle of the Wilderness, some 3 years after the start of the war.
 

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Reply #33 - Jan 4th, 2007 at 2:16pm

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dcunning30 wrote on Jan 4th, 2007 at 1:54pm:
That's correct.  The American Civil War was fascination on a number of levels.  What astounds me is the fact that they went to war with rifles yet maintained the tactics that were developed for muskets.  It was a bloody mess.  As the saying goes, necessity is the mother of inventions.  FINALLY, they learned that lesson at the army level around the time of the Battle of the Wilderness, some 3 years after the start of the war.

To be fair they were only rifled muskets. And it was the extra range that caused the extra casualties and not rate of fire. Basic musket tactics of lining up against your opponent and firing broadside after broadside at them hung on long after the demise of the musket and were only really disposed of with the invention of the Machinegun and WWI.
 

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