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Did he go to the same school as Schumacher or at least swapped notes.

Matt

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you need to look up as the sarcasm went right over your head

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If he was the greatest then he could do it all without cheating, without pushing other drivers off and without flexing the rules so much that they start to get stress fractures.
Get him in a Minardi and see him knock 3 seconds of what any other driver can do and then I will be impressed.

Matt

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huh?

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And those who hate him, their just plain blind
He's the sort of driver, you either like or hate. There is no inbetween. I've seen every single F1 race he's done and I can say I like him as a driver. As a person? Not so much but his job isn't in my opinion to impress me as a person.

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His comment was meant as a sarcastic way of saying both he and Schumacher have the history of running into people on the race track. Not a litteral they went to the same school thing.

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Schumacher will never be in the same company as Fangio, Moss, Brabham, Nuvolari, Villeneuve, Ronnie Peterson, Lauda, Prost and Senna.
Even Mansell looks good in comparison.
There are 'great drivers' and 'Schumachers'!
There are no 'drivers' in the present generation of 'Video Gamers' ..... just as Formula One no longer exists.
Period.

PS: Schumacher 'drove' for all of 600 metres in the Jordan, he was often outraced by Martin Brundle in the Bennetton and if it was not for Senna being killed in a very poor car (that Williams was a PIG!) he'd never have 'won' in 1994.
As for PT....he's just a bonehead!
Never driven for a bad team in his career and never done anything with the opportunities, he belongs in NASCAR along with Robbie Gordon and Tony Stewart, fellow boneheads.

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Villeneuve!? Are you having a laugh? He was good for about 2 seasons, and only won the champ coz he was in the williams which at the time was by far the best car out there. I consider loyalty to the sport to be one of the most important characteristics of a sportsman, and villeneuve has now fecked off twice turning his back on his fans and his sport. I only hope this time it is for good, there shouldnt be space for people like that in such a high level sport.

As for the other drivers in your list, I would disagree that teyre all better than schumacher, in fact, I think non of them are better, but some are on the same level as, Fangio and Senna. The others, though very good, cannot be said to be on a level with, let alone better than, Schumacher.

Youre right, this is the playstation generation, the same as how in the 1950's it was the brave as heck generation. Things change and the sport will roll with it. Consequently, now a days it is alot down to the cars, but how you can say Schumachers 7 championships are all down to the car is absurd. He is an amazing driver.

And to those who criticize schumacher for incidents surrounding him, should I remind you that for several consecutive seasons, Prost and Senna made a habit of taking each other out (occassionally while they were in the same team). Racing drivers should be ruthless, otherwise there would be no point racing:

After you mate
no please, after you
no I insist, I won the last race
no honest I dont mind

...What a load of fun that'd be

This IS the sport and he IS the best. Deal with it

JB

EDIT: The thought occurs that you mean Gilles Villeneuve, in which case:

I still dont think he was as good as Schumacher is, but unfortunatly he never had the chance to show what he could have been. Still ana amazing driver though, no question!

If you meant Jacques... Then what i said before... 

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I realised that as soon as I clicked post! lol see the edit that i was writing while you wrote this!

JB

the one sport you have to have at least some respect for the sportsment is F1. These guys are incredibly fit men, and when was the last time you heard of a drugs/ doping scandal in the sport? Thats not something you can say about any other sports. Yes these guys have alot of technology behind them, but the speeds, the G-forces, and the reaction times these guys have are so much tougher. Yes they have the safety aspect nowadays. But guys back in Moss and Fangio's time would be out drinking before the race hell. I know of some instances where some werre drunk going into the race. LOL. Very differant times.

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To that I must be thankful for my ABS, traction control, semi automatic gearbox and stability controle for cornering.


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Schumy staggering to his car, breathing fumes and dying for the race to start so that the airflow cleared his head.......Can't see that happening this millenium. F1 of yesterday and today is like comparing a spitfire with the Eurofighter. The Spit most certianly has the curves, but would never hack it in todays world.

Matt

Did i say anyone specifically? I just have heard Stirling Moss himself tell the stories of guys from his time. As for watching them? Obviously not live but thats the great thing about archived footage.

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The same can be said for a couple of cars that have won championships. Damon was upto the challenge and too be fair, with the exception of Michael and his Bennaton there were no challengers. Mansell had clearly lost his edge in the short time he drove it, and it took him till the end to get a win. The Ferrari's were just plain awful that year and Mclaren were getting over losing Senna to Williams. Also remember the FW15 was the last of the front runners to use the blended nose and wing. I think Mclaren ran it for a few races aswell but switched to the straight nose and low wing. Which gave the advantage to those runners. Does it matter when Hill did the job, the simple fact was he did it.

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Those aids are prohibited in the sport right now, but it was F1 that introduced and developed this technology that can be found on any new car today.

The reason The '94 Williams was such a dog for the first part of the season is because Williams ventured into new ground and pioneered the active suspension (which was subsequently banned). This was a radical new idea and Williams were openly criticized for running this unproven technology and not saving it until the next season. Williams proved their critics wrong and by the end of the season had the best car on the track (turns out the suspension wasnt schumacher proof )

It always amuses me when old timers will talk about how things used to be and are too ignorent to change with the sport.

JB. Aged 20

actually Wombat, it was the FW14b that was considered the most technologically advanced car. Its even written on the plaque next to the car at the Donnington museum.

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