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I've never liked this guy, but respected him as a talented driver.
As of recently though, it seems he is just out of control. Knocking Tagliani out twice, then Bourdais (not the first time in his career).
Everything about him makes me angry. The way he drives, talks, and the way he does his hair (when he has any).
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I've never liked this guy, but respected him as a talented driver.
As of recently though, it seems he is just out of control. Knocking Tagliani out twice, then Bourdais (not the first time in his career).
Did he go to the same school as Schumacher or at least swapped notes.
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I don't know, but I think he learned to drive in Missouri or Oklahoma
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I don't know, but I think he learned to drive in Missouri or Oklahoma
you need to look up as the sarcasm went right over your head
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Did he go to the same school as Schumacher or at least swapped notes.
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Michael Schumacher is the greatest racing driver ever to have walked this earth. He has accomplished more than any other drivers could even dream of. When he eventually bows out of motorsport, not only will it be a very sad day for the sport and the fans, but its gonna be a helluva long time until someone as good comes along.
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Michael Schumacher is the greatest racing driver ever to have walked this earth. He has accomplished more than any other drivers could even dream of. When he eventually bows out of motorsport, not only will it be a very sad day for the sport and the fans, but its gonna be a helluva long time until someone as good comes along.
JB
If he was the greatest then he could do it all without cheating, without pushing other drivers off and without flexing the rules so much that they start to get stress fractures.
Get him in a Minardi and see him knock 3 seconds of what any other driver can do and then I will be impressed.
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oh lord not this again..
Schumacher did that, when he drove for Jordan, does anybody remember that? or when he was signed up by a rather poor bennaton team, which he and Ross Brawn proceeded to take to the world championship despite constantly being written off. People say he wouldn't be the driver he is without the technology, those people talk crap because he started F1 racing before the technology. Yes he's made his mistakes, but no more than Senna, and yes I know, how dare I? but Senna was just as bad for bending the rules to the absolute limit, thats what made him a great driver. Schumacher has 3 times though broken those rules, his clash with Hill, his clash with JV and his Monaco parking incident. Its a shame a guy with 89 wins, 7 world championships and god knows how many records will be remembered for those 3 things, but c'est la vie. He wont lose sleep over it. I know I wont. People dont like him because he's that much better, they all hailed Alonso when he was champion and winning races, what alot of people are finally realising is, Alonso's more arrogent than Schumacher.
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you need to look up as the sarcasm went right over your head
huh?
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One thing about the Schumacher fan, you have to admire their blind devotion.
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One thing about the Schumacher fan, you have to admire their blind devotion.
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And those who hate him, their just plain blind
He's the sort of driver, you either like or hate. There is no inbetween. I've seen every single F1 race he's done and I can say I like him as a driver. As a person? Not so much but his job isn't in my opinion to impress me as a person.
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huh?
His comment was meant as a sarcastic way of saying both he and Schumacher have the history of running into people on the race track. Not a litteral they went to the same school thing.
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And those who hate him, their just plain blind
He's the sort of driver, you either like or hate. There is no inbetween. I've seen every single F1 race he's done and I can say I like him as a driver. As a person? Not so much but his job isn't in my opinion to impress me as a person.
That is a fair way of putting it
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oh lord not this again..
Schumacher did that, when he drove for Jordan, does anybody remember that? or when he was signed up by a rather poor bennaton team, which he and Ross Brawn proceeded to take to the world championship despite constantly being written off. People say he wouldn't be the driver he is without the technology, those people talk crap because he started F1 racing before the technology. Yes he's made his mistakes, but no more than Senna, and yes I know, how dare I? but Senna was just as bad for bending the rules to the absolute limit, thats what made him a great driver. Schumacher has 3 times though broken those rules, his clash with Hill, his clash with JV and his Monaco parking incident. Its a shame a guy with 89 wins, 7 world championships and god knows how many records will be remembered for those 3 things, but c'est la vie. He wont lose sleep over it. I know I wont. People dont like him because he's that much better, they all hailed Alonso when he was champion and winning races, what alot of people are finally realising is, Alonso's more arrogent than Schumacher.
Schumacher will never be in the same company as Fangio, Moss, Brabham, Nuvolari, Villeneuve, Ronnie Peterson, Lauda, Prost and Senna.
Even Mansell looks good in comparison.
There are 'great drivers' and 'Schumachers'!
There are no 'drivers' in the present generation of 'Video Gamers' ..... just as Formula One no longer exists.
Period.
PS: Schumacher 'drove' for all of 600 metres in the Jordan, he was often outraced by Martin Brundle in the Bennetton and if it was not for Senna being killed in a very poor car (that Williams was a PIG!) he'd never have 'won' in 1994.
As for PT....he's just a bonehead!
Never driven for a bad team in his career and never done anything with the opportunities, he belongs in NASCAR along with Robbie Gordon and Tony Stewart, fellow boneheads.
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That pig, of a williams won the constructors title in 1994, and had it not been for the incident with Michael taking out Hill, it would also have won the drivers title with Hill. I'm sorry people seem to get so damn sensitive over Ayrton Senna if any ill is spoken of him. The guy had failings like any other, your right schumacher isn't in his or those other drivers league. He's well beyond it. The 7 titles, the records the wins. Like I said, seperate the man from the driver. As a person, I wont argue, he doesn't have the same "it factor" as Senna, fangio prost and so on. But as a driver. He's done so much more.
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he was often outraced by Martin Brundle in the Bennetton
Schumacher out qualified him every race and out raced Brundle for the first half of the season. Brundle was able to claw it back in the second half of the season though, but was outsmarted on several occasions, remember spa? Schumi saw brundles tyres were shot as he passed him, so Schumi pitted 1 lap earlier for fresh tyres which allowed him to pass Brundle quickly.
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Schumacher will never be in the same company as Fangio, Moss, Brabham, Nuvolari, Villeneuve, Ronnie Peterson, Lauda, Prost and Senna.
Even Mansell looks good in comparison.
There are 'great drivers' and 'Schumachers'!
There are no 'drivers' in the present generation of 'Video Gamers' ..... just as Formula One no longer exists.
Period.
Villeneuve!? Are you having a laugh? He was good for about 2 seasons, and only won the champ coz he was in the williams which at the time was by far the best car out there. I consider loyalty to the sport to be one of the most important characteristics of a sportsman, and villeneuve has now fecked off twice turning his back on his fans and his sport. I only hope this time it is for good, there shouldnt be space for people like that in such a high level sport.
As for the other drivers in your list, I would disagree that teyre all better than schumacher, in fact, I think non of them are better, but some are on the same level as, Fangio and Senna. The others, though very good, cannot be said to be on a level with, let alone better than, Schumacher.
Youre right, this is the playstation generation, the same as how in the 1950's it was the brave as heck generation. Things change and the sport will roll with it. Consequently, now a days it is alot down to the cars, but how you can say Schumachers 7 championships are all down to the car is absurd. He is an amazing driver.
And to those who criticize schumacher for incidents surrounding him, should I remind you that for several consecutive seasons, Prost and Senna made a habit of taking each other out (occassionally while they were in the same team). Racing drivers should be ruthless, otherwise there would be no point racing:
After you mate
no please, after you
no I insist, I won the last race
no honest I dont mind
...What a load of fun that'd be
This IS the sport and he IS the best. Deal with it
JB
EDIT: The thought occurs that you mean Gilles Villeneuve, in which case:
I still dont think he was as good as Schumacher is, but unfortunatly he never had the chance to show what he could have been. Still ana amazing driver though, no question!
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JB, he is on about Gilles (sorry wrong spelling i know) not JV. GV was one of those drivers who died because he pushed himself and his car past its limits. He shouldn't have even been in the race he was, as he was still carrying the anger and the stress of the previous race loss where he was screwed over for the win.
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