Simviation Forum - Early birds

Jul 17^th, 2006 at 12:23pm

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At RIAT last weekend, I was at the Skysim stand and suddenly noticed something - in their wide selection of software they had nothing earlier than a Spitfire. Plenty of modern jets, plenty of airliners, WW2 aircraft, but no sign of Sopwith Camels, Fokker Triplanes, Eindekkers, etc. I asked and it seems such things just don't exist! And sure enough I can't find much payware of early designs, beyond the DH2/Eindekker from AH.

Is this a case of nobody buying the early planes simply because they aren't available? Or are they not available because nobody wants to buy them?

Answers on a postcard please.

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Reply #1 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 12:08am

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At RIAT last weekend, I was at the Skysim stand and suddenly noticed something - in their wide selection of software they had nothing earlier than a Spitfire. Plenty of modern jets, plenty of airliners, WW2 aircraft, but no sign of Sopwith Camels, Fokker Triplanes, Eindekkers, etc. I asked and it seems such things just don't exist! And sure enough I can't find much payware of early designs, beyond the DH2/Eindekker from AH.

Is this a case of nobody buying the early planes simply because they aren't available? Or are they not available because nobody wants to buy them?

Answers on a postcard please.

Gryshnak
Frustrated early bird flyer

Maybe its because there are lots of extremely high quality freeware early birds. Anything by Stuart Green is payware quality

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Reply #2 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 12:12am

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my favorite.... pfalz, albatross and camel...not to mention the tiger moth........freeware ones not bad at all....

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Reply #3 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 5:46am

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Just Flight were in the process of making a Tiger Moth, don't know how its progressing though.

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Reply #4 - Jul 18^th, 2006 at 7:36am

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*I* think that the problem with the "Earlier" birds (hint: MY definition of 'early birds' is pre-1915) is that those that like to see them in the Flight Simulator series are somewhat daft. Those that like to build them are daftier.

My unscientific polling of flightsimmers' tastes lead me to believe that most like the latest and greatest sardine cans (faster, more gizmos), as well as the latest and greatest in GA, bizjets, etc. (Again, more flashy eye candy and electronics). All fine and dandy, but there are still a number out there that consider navigation lights on an aeroplane an unnecessary luxury, and you know the wings aren't on properly if they're not restrained with suitable amounts of flying, landing and just plain wires. BRakes? Who needs brakes?

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Reply #5 - Jul 19^th, 2006 at 3:19pm

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*I* think that the problem with the "Earlier" birds (hint: MY definition of 'early birds' is pre-1915) is that those that like to see them in the Flight Simulator series are somewhat daft. Those that like to build them are daftier.

Better make room for another daft one then, because I find those early planes (pre-1910) have more appeal than any of the modern spamcans. I'd rather build a Voisin than a Eurofighter.

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My unscientific polling of flightsimmers' tastes lead me to believe that most like the latest and greatest sardine cans (faster, more gizmos), as well as the latest and greatest in GA, bizjets, etc. (Again, more flashy eye candy and electronics).

I agree entirely, many people do want more and more airliners and flashy bizjets, despite the fact (or perhaps because of it) that they all look alike. I couldn't tell a 727 from a DC9.

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there are still a number out there that consider navigation lights on an aeroplane an unnecessary luxury, and you know the wings aren't on properly if they're not restrained with suitable amounts of flying, landing and just plain wires. BRakes? Who needs brakes?

Just as some people like vintage cars or steam engines, some of us think those early machines have a level of character that is missing in most modern aircraft.

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Reply #6 - Jul 19^th, 2006 at 6:02pm

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Just as some people like vintage cars or steam engines, some of us think those early machines have a level of character that is missing in most modern aircraft.

Gryshnak

I mean, when discussing aerobatics, which is a better plane, a Grebe or a Gamecock? What looks better, three Bulldogs doing acrobatics tied together? Can you imaging the Red Arrows even trying to stay tied together (presuming you could find somewhere on their airplanes to tie enything on?)

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Reply #7 - Jul 19^th, 2006 at 6:23pm