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Got my L Plates!! (Read 1141 times)
Jul 3
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Yep, thats it...
I'm learning..
I'm into my 6th lesson with the instructor, and im also learning to practice at home. Ive just recently got insured on my dads car, and got me some L plates, and i started to learn in that car yesterday.
I'm finding it touch and go, easy in some areas, but as my instructor says, "men arnt too good at multi tasking" so im obviously doing a few minor errors here and there. Only thing im stuck on is finding that Crucial biting Point on my dads car (Peugoet 107), Its a small thing but it takes quite a bit for a learner such as myself.
Especially Hill starts... Its just that bit of work with the Clutch and power to "Connect" and Bring the car forward. I'm obviosuly getting there - slowly, but 7/10 i stall etc. This im sure is very very common with learners.
But overall im really enjoying learning, but the real test will come when im out there all alone with my own car, once ive passed my Official test.
Anyone like to give me any tips/reccomendations as such?
6 lessons, still got a long way to go!
Many thanks Chaps, and looking forward to hearing from you.
James 8)
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watch out for the idiots on the road.
The second you put L plates on a car every driver thinks they can bully you into letting them go, or that they can pull out infront of you regardless of how close you are.
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watch out for the idiots on the road.
The second you put L plates on a car every driver thinks they can bully you into letting them go, or that they can pull out infront of you regardless of how close you are.
Yeah ive noticed that immediately. As soon as a car is up my arse, i SLOW down, i dont want myself or anyone else in danger. I'm naturally arragant LOL, and im not going to let anyone else make me drive faster, i just do the complete opposite and slow down!
Safety is my main priority.
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Jul 3
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lol its people like you who stop me getting where I am going quicker
To be fair, when I was learning to drive I did exactly the same thing. In some cases where I could get away with it, I would be a little more forceful on the brakes just to convince the person behind to back off.
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When it comes to your test, be sure to do the exact opposite to what I did and you're sure to pass.
Things to avoid,
Mounting the kerb,
Not looking in your mirrors,
Stalling, repeatedly,
Failing to stop for oncoming cars that have right of way (I thought the silly person had stopped for me...),
Cutting across the inside lane while going round the outside of a round-about,
Carving someone up after exiting the above roundabout.
Failing to wait for the car behind to pass before continuing after an emergency stop.
And finally, approaching a roundabout at 50 miles per hour, breaking hard, swerving before going hard left without checking mirrors or blind spot. (That one was marked on the test sheet as "dangerous".)
Failiure to do all of the above must surely result in a pass.
Hopefully I shall pass on my next (4th) attempt.
You'll learn to hate L plates. No matter how you drive the car behind will always overtake you at the first opportunity no matter how inconvenient or dangerous.
Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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Jul 3
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When it comes to your test, be sure to do the exact opposite to what I did and you're sure to pass.
Things to avoid,
Mounting the kerb,
Not looking in your mirrors,
Stalling, repeatedly,
Failing to stop for oncoming cars that have right of way (I thought the silly person had stopped for me...),
Cutting across the inside lane while going round the outside of a round-about,
Carving someone up after exiting the above roundabout.
Failing to wait for the car behind to pass before continuing after an emergency stop.
And finally, approaching a roundabout at 50 miles per hour, breaking hard, swerving before going hard left without checking mirrors or blind spot. (That one was marked on the test sheet as "dangerous".)
Failiure to do all of the above must surely result in a pass.
Hopefully I shall pass on my next (4th) attempt.
You'll learn to hate L plates. No matter how you drive the car behind will always overtake you at the first opportunity no matter how inconvenient or dangerous.
LOL!!!!!
Good luck with the next attempt Woody!
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When it comes to your test, be sure to do the exact opposite to what I did and you're sure to pass.
Things to avoid,
Mounting the kerb,
Not looking in your mirrors,
Stalling, repeatedly,
Failing to stop for oncoming cars that have right of way (I thought the silly person had stopped for me...),
Cutting across the inside lane while going round the outside of a round-about,
Carving someone up after exiting the above roundabout.
Failing to wait for the car behind to pass before continuing after an emergency stop.
And finally, approaching a roundabout at 50 miles per hour, breaking hard, swerving before going hard left without checking mirrors or blind spot. (That one was marked on the test sheet as "dangerous".)
Failiure to do all of the above must surely result in a pass.
Hopefully I shall pass on my next (4th) attempt.
You'll learn to hate L plates. No matter how you drive the car behind will always overtake you at the first opportunity no matter how inconvenient or dangerous.
Now that sir, is impressive
50mph up to a roundabout? what was it, over the top of a blind hill?
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Jul 3
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lol its people like you who stop me getting where I am going quicker
To be fair, when I was learning to drive I did exactly the same thing. In some cases where I could get away with it, I would be a little more forceful on the brakes just to convince the person behind to back off.
But would you like to actually arrive at work in one peice in the morning? I know it sounds harsh.. But people need to "look out" for each other. I drive slow, because i dont to harm anyone, and i dont want to pay for the chuffin car if i crash!
Ive got Plenty more lessons to get my clutch practice etc sorted out!
Cheers!
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Jul 3
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Now that sir, is impressive
50mph up to a roundabout? what was it, over the top of a blind hill?
Pretty much. That and the trees that covered the roundabout merged with the hedge almost perfectly so even when I saw the turn left chevron things I still didn't realise it was the roundabout.
Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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Pretty much. That and the trees that covered the roundabout merged with the hedge almost perfectly so even when I saw the turn left chevron things I still didn't realise it was the roundabout.
I'm just imagining the look on the instructors face!
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But would you like to actually arrive at work in one peice in the morning? I know it sounds harsh.. But people need to "look out" for each other. I drive slow, because i dont to harm anyone, and i dont want to pay for the chuffin car if i crash!
Ive got Plenty more lessons to get my clutch practice etc sorted out!
Cheers!
Dont worry Jimbo,
I treat learners with respect, since I was one myself not long ago, I go out of my way to create space for them from clear ahole's and I let them out at junctions.
I only get annoyed with drivers who take the p*ss when it comes to driving slow. The main road I use to work is 40mph, I can quite happily cruise down it safely at 50 as can anyone. But some people seem content to do 30 which is ridiculous.
I am by no means a good driver, thankfully though I have good reaction times to save me from the mistakes I am still likely to make being so young
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Dont worry Jimbo,
I treat learners with respect, since I was one myself not long ago, I go out of my way to create space for them from clear ahole's and I let them out at junctions.
I only get annoyed with drivers who take the p*ss when it comes to driving slow. The main road I use to work is 40mph, I can quite happily cruise down it safely at 50 as can anyone. But some people seem content to do 30 which is ridiculous.
I am by no means a good driver, thankfully though I have good reaction times to save me from the mistakes I am still likely to make being so young
LOL!
Learning is as hard as i thought.. So much to remember, it all gets confusing. But little by little, It all goes "into place" and it works fine.
Only thing i dont like (as i said) is up-hill starts, I chuffin cant stop stalling!
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I'm just imagining the look on the instructors face!
I did notice afterwards he would reach for the handhold above the passenger side window when ever we approached a bend.
It was an absolute pisser though cause if i'd seen the roundabout, I would have passed.
Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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I did notice afterwards he would reach for the handhold above the passenger side window when ever we approached a bend.
It was an absolute pisser though cause if i'd seen the roundabout, I would have passed.
LOL! It is a bit of Pisser 'aint it!
How much are tests these days?
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The best bet with hill starts, is to not worry about them till your able to do flat starts 100% of the time. This is how my instructor did it with me. Then we moved onto some rather steep hills. I am guessing she was working on the basis that if you can pull away from those then the less steep ones would be a breeze.
Too bad I moved and switched to an automatic as passing in a manual wouldn't have been a problem. Damn birmingham drivers.
Woody, try to find a route with no roundabouts. Just remember you can influence you test route you go on, by nervously taking a wrong turn
As long as you only do it a couple of times, they dont count against you.
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Woody, try to find a route with no roundabouts. Just remember you can influence you test route you go on, by nervously taking a wrong turn
As long as you only do it a couple of times, they dont count against you.
That only works if you know your way round the test area. I hate the test area so avoid it at all times. And so a wrong turn might make it all the worse for me.
The test route with no roundabout is Broadford on the Isle of Skye. It also has no traffic lights and no junctions.
Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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so get your instructor to put you both on a car ferry to there then
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Jul 3
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so get your instructor to put you both on a car ferry to there then
Maybe next time.
Failing that I'll just live on an island where cars are banned. Like Herm, Sark or Tresco.
Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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or fly to India, the test there is easy.
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or fly to India, the test there is easy.
Yes. You just give £20 to the nice man on the street corner.
Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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Yes. You just give £20 to the nice man on the street corner.
Thats how several of the people I work with got theirs
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Thats how several of the people I work with got theirs
Sadly in this country communications and registers are such that you might as well not have one at all than have a false one. In India though you can actually give your fake to a policeman and the chances are they won't have any way of telling.
Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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I dont think they care there.
And from what my colleagues tell me, even if they do come after you, you just hand over a little money and surprise surprise, they happen to forget.
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Playing a risky game there.
I'd rather just have a real licence me.
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Jimbo there is only one thing you need to become a good, safe driver and it is something you won't learn from a instructor but is self taught.......
COMMON SENSE
As long as you have that, you will be a good and safe driver.
Now you must watch out for the others who don't have it
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Only thing im stuck on is finding that Crucial biting Point on my dads car (Peugoet 107), Its a small thing but it takes quite a bit for a learner such as myself.
Especially Hill starts... Its just that bit of work with the Clutch and power to "Connect" and Bring the car forward. I'm obviosuly getting there - slowly, but 7/10 i stall etc. This im sure is very very common with learners.
Anyone like to give me any tips/reccomendations as such?
I remember having the same problem. Never had a problem with my motorbikes but this was really bugging me. In the end I found a different instructor who spent the best part of a lesson showing me how to slip the clutch. We found a steep hill & he made me hold the car stationary, then move it forward & backwards - all on the clutch & without touching the brakes. That fixed it once & for all.
I recommend doing it on the driving school car as it won't do the clutch any good.
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The best way of learning how to control the clutch ....... On a flat length of road put the car in 1st then pull away without using the gas, just let the clutch out gently. Once you have mastered it in 1st then carry on up through the gears without using the gas. Then to prove you have really mastered it pull away in 2nd ..... then 3rd ..... then 4th then 5th..... all without any gas. Believe me by the time you get past 2nd you will have mastered the clutch and hill starts will be a breeze. If you're doing it properly there will be no clutch slippage and therefore no excessive wear.
Then if you really want to be clever ...... only use the clutch to get into 1st ...... then don't use it again for changing up or down the box.
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Hi Chaps, thanks for all the info!
Since i started this post, my clutch control has improved incredible, i can now Start the car and move off on a VERY steep hill, and i can also hold the car on a steep hill. It does take a bit of practice, and your right Doug, i really dont reccomend it... i had a small scent of the clutch burning!..
Ow' well!
Cheers Chaps,
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Hi Chaps, thanks for all the info!
Since i started this post, my clutch control has improved incredible, i can now Start the car and move off on a VERY steep hill, and i can also hold the car on a steep hill. It does take a bit of practice, and your right Doug, i really dont recommend it... i had a small scent of the clutch burning!..
Ow' well!
Cheers Chaps,
James
From the point of view of a motor mechanic...
If you have to remain stationary for any length of time, (traffic lights. etc), select neutral and apply the hand brake.
If you keep the clutch pedal depressed while stationary you are wearing the clutch thrust bearing out...
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do you brits do their driving lessons in petrol cars? in holland its all diesels, which in most cases can drive off without touching the gas
Any vehicle diesel, petrol, big or small can drive off in any gear without using the gas pedal as long as you are really gentle with the clutch.
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That only works if you know your way round the test area. I hate the test area so avoid it at all times. And so a wrong turn might make it all the worse for me.
The test route with no roundabout is Broadford on the Isle of Skye. It also has no traffic lights and no junctions.
I would suggest doing most of your lessons round the test routes ....... that way you know exactly what's comming and no suprises. Most of the bods from the Islands actually do their tests in Inverness... which makes following learners in Inverness rather interesting at times.
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Any vehicle diesel, petrol, big or small can drive off in any gear without using the gas pedal as long as you are really gentle with the clutch.
I know you're a pro driver Eno but you obviously haven't driven some of the vehicles I have.
PS. It's accelerator. Gas pedal indeed.
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I know you're a pro driver Eno but you obviously haven't driven some of the vehicles I have.
PS. It's accelerator. Gas pedal indeed.
You'd be suprised what I've driven. Accelerator PAH!! gas is easier and quicker to type
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basically if your horn, airbags, seatbelts work and tire pressure is good; and you have valid insurance, your good to take the test.
whats invlovled in your test? all i had to do was pass the following
>turning
>backing up
>backing while turning
>parallel parking
>uphill parking
>downhill parking
>the various signs and streetlights we come across.
the only roundabout (creatively called Suicide Circle, despite the very low accident rate) is about 10 miles from here, a bit far to learn something i used to live by. I find it easy to drive, most people don't.
i aced everything except backing while turning. i thought we were changing direction. so a point marked off for that. big deal, i still did great.
and common sense is something i usually leave behind at home. and when i'm at home, i seem to leave it in the car.
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basically if your horn, airbags, seatbelts work and tire pressure is good; and you have valid insurance, your good to take the test.
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How do you test the airbag's?
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