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Jun 24th, 2006 at 3:30pm

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Hey all,
After the BBMF display at the airshow, quite a few of you wanted to start up a VBBMF (Virtual Battle of Britain Memorial Flight).

I said I'd put up a post about it - here it is Grin

If you want to be part, say so, any suggestions etc on how to get this rolling?

(NOTE: this is unofficial, and if it's already been done, I suppose you might call this the SimV VBBMF Cheesy)
 

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Reply #1 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 3:32pm
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i'd love to take part in this, pity we can't add the vulcan sometimes just to spice things up  Wink
 
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Reply #2 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 3:40pm

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i'd love to take part in this, pity we can't add the vulcan sometimes just to spice things up  Wink


Why don't we Nemo? Those lads seemed to love your addition, and whoever winds up running the VBBMF probably wouldn't mind Wink Cheesy

So it's new, total name is....

SimVVBBMF+Vulcan

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Reply #3 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 3:44pm
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would love to take part.

instead of making it a VBBMF, why not an RAF historical flight?? then you can use all of the RAF oldest and greatest, but have a small detachment that are the BBMF. then everyone is happy Cheesy
 
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Reply #4 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 3:47pm
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then i'm definately up for it...... will fly any of the aircraft, just need to find a better vulcan thats not payware lol.
 
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Reply #5 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 3:56pm

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Great idea Grin
ill fly the Hurricane Mk IIa LE-D as i flew in the show.

We need more fighter jocks to get maybe a big fighter show going with brakes infront of the crowd and stuff Grin

current list of active planes from BBMF site
Spitfire Mk IIa
Spitfire LF IXe
Spitfire Mk V B
Spitfire PRXIX x2
Hurricane Mk IIc x2
C-47
2 Chippies
...and a Lancaster  Grin
 
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Reply #6 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 4:08pm

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would love to take part.

instead of making it a VBBMF, why not an RAF historical flight?? then you can use all of the RAF oldest and greatest, but have a small detachment that are the BBMF. then everyone is happy Cheesy


just what i was thinking...
 

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Reply #7 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 4:11pm

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would love to take part.

instead of making it a VBBMF, why not an RAF historical flight?? then you can use all of the RAF oldest and greatest, but have a small detachment that are the BBMF. then everyone is happy Cheesy



That would be even better,than we can add planes like the Hunter, Gnat,Typhoon and stuff
maybe add a jet division??
 
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Reply #8 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 4:15pm

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Great idea Grin
ill fly the Hurricane Mk IIa LE-D as i flew in the show.

We need more fighter jocks to get maybe a big fighter show going with brakes infront of the crowd and stuff Grin

current list of active planes from BBMF site
Spitfire Mk IIa
Spitfire LF IXe
Spitfire Mk V B
Spitfire PRXIX x2
Hurricane Mk IIc x2
C-47
2 Chippies


...and a Lancaster. Smiley

I'd stick to historic types... nothing more modern than a Vulcan or Lightning...
 
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Reply #9 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 4:20pm
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the vulcan was thrown in basically at the last minute, due to my pm'ing little charlie over a flight my dad had when he was in the raf, since the pm it was kept as a surprise until tonight  Wink.

i can see this branching out into a few different eras though.
 
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Reply #10 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 4:20pm

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Too bad i cant follow development of this in the next 2 weeks becouse im at holliday in france as of tomorrow Angry

Make something great gentleman, ill check again in 14 days Wink
 
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Reply #11 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 4:25pm
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I'd be happy to try my hand with the lumbering Dak! Grin
 
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Reply #12 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 4:55pm

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I'm still sticking with the Spit guys Cheesy For now, I'll use Paul Rebuffat's Mk IXc (probably here at SimV) but if anyone can find a decent Mk II/MK V spit I'll be a happy Charlie Grin
 

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Reply #13 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 5:13pm
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kl kl, well, we would need to figure out which displays to do, how many pilots needed etc etc...

good historic flight, a hunter with 2 gnats either side. saw that a leuchars last year. sexy display.

i like the idea of a dog fight kinda thing. would be a nice touch.

next thing i suppose is, what woudl be in a RAF histrical flight?
 
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Reply #14 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 6:05pm
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How about a Canberra with that? I wouldn't mind flying a PR9 8)
 
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Reply #15 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 6:10pm
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forgot about the canberra. good suggestion
 
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Reply #16 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 6:11pm

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kl kl, well, we would need to figure out which displays to do, how many pilots needed etc etc...



The prudent plan would be to have more pilots than are always necessary, which would reduce the limitations of being unable to fly as "X" is unavailable that day, and having them able to fly different elements within the team...
 
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Reply #17 - Jun 24th, 2006 at 7:26pm
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Just took the Canberra PR.9 up for a spin. Nice aircraft to fly, and it would certainly be a good addition to some sort of historic flight!
 
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Reply #18 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 3:49am
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are you hinting at something here tweek??
 
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Reply #19 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 4:29am
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Not hinting. Suggesting.

That's always if you have a historic flight with it, at times. As with the Vulcan at the show.

Else I'll gladly take up the position of one of the extra Spitfires Wink
 
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Reply #20 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 4:36am

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Okay so it seems we're forming an RAF Historical Flight are we? Cheesy

If so, here are our suggestions for aircraft compiled into some form of list (we don't want too many):

BBMF aircraft
Canberra PR.9
Vulcan
2 x Hunter (?)
2 xGnat (?)
And one of my suggestions - a modern RAf aircraft to lead the pack (Hawk?)
And another suggestion: Mike Stone's C-130 (in RAF colours, there's bound to be an RAF paint out there somewhere)

We could set up for certain displays at certain SimV shows, like this time we had the BBMF, next time we could have the Hunters/ Gnats as Flymo suggested, another time we could have the Herc escorted by two or more fighters?

What do you guys think? I would imagine this list is plenty enough, as I said, we don't want too many aircraft or that would mean a lot of downloading (especially for those on 56k), plus we would probably have about 2-3 pilots for each aircraft (the pilots would take it in turns to fly in the RAF historical flighty-thing each airshow Wink)
 

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Reply #21 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 4:37am

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if you guys don't mind, ill take up the team organiser position in my lancaster (its slow and so enables me to type stuff into the chat box Wink)

Can I just say that we don't want too many planes, as then no-one would be able to watch Grin

If we perhaps start of with just the BBMF planes  and the vulcan. If this is successful, we can begin to add new historic jets to the line-up.

So as it stands the positions are;

Spitfire Mk IIa - Available
Spitfire LF IXe - Cspyro21
Spitfire Mk V B - Available
Spitfire PRXIX - Tweek
Hurricane Mk IIc - Serpent_6
C-47 - Heathaze
Chipmunk - Available
Lancaster - Mictheslik
Vulcan - Nemo

Theres only 1 chipmunk cos lets face it, theyre pretty dull Tongue)

Just to say, anyone suggesting dogfights in my opinion can leave now, Dogfights almost always end up failing with people doing ridiculously unrealistic manoevres.

As for the historic jets issue, maybe in the meantime a seperate display can be set up, but at the moment the SimVuVBBMF consists of the above planes doing formation flying between individual displays.

So if anyone wants to join up say here what you would like to fly!

On a second thought it might be good to set up a website, I can do this on Myspace.com as its easy but if anyone wants to set up a half decent one then PM me and Ill tell you the details.

Thanks for reading, I hope you all agree!

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PS What have i started? Roll Eyes

 

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Reply #22 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 4:40am

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if you guys don't mind, ill take up the team organiser position in my lancaster (its slow and so enables me to type stuff into the chat box Wink)

Can I just say that we don't want too many planes, as then no-one would be able to watch Grin

If we perhaps start of with just the BBMF planes  and the vulcan. If this is successful, we can begin to add new historic jets to the line-up.

So as it stands the positions are;

Spitfire Mk IIa - Available
Spitfire LF IXe - Cspyro21
Spitfire Mk V B - Available
Spitfire PRXIX -Available
Hurricane Mk IIc - Serpent_6
C-47 - Heathaze
Chipmunk - Available
Lancaster - Mictheslik
Vulcan - Nemo

Theres only 1 chipmunk cos lets face it, theyre pretty dull Tongue)

Just to say, anyone suggesting dogfights in my opinion can leave now, Dogfights almost always end up failing with people doing ridiculously unrealistic manoevres.

As for the historic jets issue, maybe in the meantime a seperate display can be set up, but at the moment the SimVuVBBMF consists of the above planes doing formation flying between individual displays.

So if anyone wants to join up say here what you would like to fly!

On a second thought it might be good to set up a website, I can do this on Myspace.com as its easy but if anyone wants to set up a half decent one then PM me and Ill tell you the details.

Thanks for reading, I hope you all agree!

.Mic

PS What have i started? Roll Eyes



Sounds good enough Mic, start small as they say Cheesy

Anyway, I found a Mk IXe Spit on Avsim, by Paul Rebuffat (yay Grin), so perhaps that would make things more realistic Smiley

EDIT: you've started the best MP formation flight I've seen Grin Grin
 

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Reply #23 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 4:44am

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LOL, two organisers posting at the same time contradictory posts! Thats what we lik Tongue

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Also tweek, please confirm which spit you want to fly

By posting all this ive just gone and burnt my bacon Sad
 

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Reply #24 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 4:46am
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I would take up the Chipmunk and be unique... but I'll take a Spitfire. Gonna see what repaints there are for Paul Rebuffat's collection.

Found a PR.XIX, so I'll take that position 8)

http://www.simviation.com/fs2004vintage37.htm
 
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LOL, two organisers posting at the same time contradictory posts! Thats what we lik Tongue

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Also tweek, please confirm which spit you want to fly


Ain't itg great? Grin

Anyway, I'll say my suggestion is for the future, when perhaps we can expand on what we have. For now, Mic, we'll go with your's Cheesy

I'm going to see if I can paint (or if there is a paint) for Paul's Mk IXe in the BBMF colours.
 

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Reply #26 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 4:49am

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ive just thought of something, were gonna have to get a new lanc repaint, cos theyre repainting it at the end of this season

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Reply #27 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 4:53am

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Also, just for notes, here are a few things we can use:

Dakota BBMF repaint on SimV

Paul's Mk IXe Spit

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ive just thought of something, were gonna have to get a new lanc repaint, cos theyre repainting it at the end of this season

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Aren't they keeping the same paint but making it "better/newer"?
 

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Reply #28 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 4:53am
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ive just thought of something, were gonna have to get a new lanc repaint, cos theyre repainting it at the end of this season

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One will be made. Most likely by UKMIL.

And just in case you missed it, check my above post for a link to the PRXIX. I'll be flying that, if I can! Smiley
 
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Reply #29 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 5:22am

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Also a quick note, to join you must be fairly good at formation flying Grin

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Reply #30 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 5:26am
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on the hunter and gnat thing, the display i saw was one hunter, with a gnat either side.
i think it should be included cos they are both sweet aircraft.
i would gladly fly one of the gnats.

i think we should leave out the typhoon at all coutns cos its jsut ugly.
 
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Also a quick note, to join you must be fairly good at formation flying Grin

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Are you sure? I'm cr@p at keeping formation Grin

By the way, we need these spaces filled Cheesy

Spitfire Mk IIa - Available
Spitfire Mk V B - Available
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Reply #32 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 5:38am

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Reply #33 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 5:48am

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By the way guys, I'll be using Paul's Mk IXc as this model has clipped wings like the BBMF's IXe, so it would look somewhat more realistic. Wink

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i would gladly fly one of the gnats.
Me too Grin


I also saw the display from the hunter and gnats at Cosford 2004 and i was very impressed by it. One aircraft i would really like to fly is the Gloster Meteor NF.11. I once found one for FS2002 but dont know where to get it anymore Sad

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Reply #35 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 6:29am

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For now can we cut the jet talk, unless you want to start a new thread about a new group Wink

And about the formation thing, charlie is the lowest level, you have to be better than charlie to join (hows that?)

I just downloaded the other one, oh well thats four new spits that I have added today!

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For now can we cut the jet talk, unless you want to start a new thread about a new group Wink

And about the formation thing, charlie is the lowest level, you have to be better than charlie to join (hows that?)

I just downloaded the other one, oh well thats four new spits that I have added today!

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It's true -  I'm awful at forming!! Grin Grin
 

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It's true -  I'm awful at forming!! Grin Grin


Sounds like you need some lessons... Smiley

Do you have Rick Pipers Chippie... Could be interesting teaching formation on an MP sortie... Smiley
 
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Sounds like you need some lessons... Smiley

Do you have Rick Pipers Chippie... Could be interesting teaching formation on an MP sortie... Smiley


I can get it Bigger Me, if you do want to (try and) teach me to form better, drop me a PM to organise a time (I'm busy today Wink)
 

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I can get it Bigger Me, if you do want to (try and) teach me to form better, drop me a PM to organise a time (I'm busy today Wink)


It'd be fun (maybe)! Grin. I'll drop you a PM at some point - I'm busy today too! Wink Grin
 
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Reply #40 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 7:25am

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OK I now have a seperate Forum set up. I have included sections for the BBMF and a Historic Military jet Group. If one or two people could come forward as moderators, and I need 1 person to be in charge of the HMJG that would be good.

The address is shown below

http://www.atfreeforum.com/simvbbmf

Sign up now to avoid disappointment!

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Reply #41 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 9:47am

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I'd love to be involved with this, historic British types are my thing after all. I'll take the Spit V if it's not gone or I can fly the Hawker Typhoon that I brought to the airshow. I'd love to fly the Sea Fury, but it is a frame rate hog.
 

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Reply #42 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 9:52am

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By all means you can have the spit V just register on the forum to become a member

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Reply #43 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 12:19pm
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the website template is done and coded. had a few hairy moments doing. stupid tag ends.

just content to do now Cheesy
 
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Reply #44 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 12:52pm

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wow, thats quick  Cheesy

Thanks for your hard work Flymo!

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Reply #45 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 3:02pm

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OK I now have a seperate Forum set up. I have included sections for the BBMF and a Historic Military jet Group. If one or two people could come forward as moderators, and I need 1 person to be in charge of the HMJG that would be good.

The address is shown below

http://www.atfreeforum.com/simvbbmf

Sign up now to avoid disappointment!

.Mic


Mic, I could offer help as a mod if you liked Smiley
 

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Reply #46 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 8:41pm

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Cool...i signed up today...gonna fly the Spitfire Mk IIa, cant wait for our first event!

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Reply #47 - Jun 26th, 2006 at 11:10am
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yeh reason the site was up very quickly, duely because i had nothing to do on the weekend, so i got to it and got it finished. Cheesy

cant wait to see the displays. they are gonna be cool.
 
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