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Jun 13^th, 2006 at 7:09pm

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The Republic JB-2 'Loon'. http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histories/Loon/Loon.htm

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When Germany began launching the Fieseler Fi-103 V-1 at England from sites in France in 1944, the U.S.Army had been interested in starting a missile program. An unexploded Fi-103 was shipped to America for study. In September 1944 the Republic company was awarded the contract to build duplicates of the Fi-103, with the Ford Motor Co making the engine which was a copy of the Argus 014 Pulsejet, now known as the PJ-31-1. In exactly two months the first operational JB-2's (Jet Bomb Model 2) came off the assembly line. After intensive testing the USAAF ordered 75,000 "Loons", how ever by the time the Second World War had ended there was no need for such a weapon in the numbers ordered (as there would be no invasion of Japan), so the contract was terminated after only 1200 JB-2's were built. The JB-2 was the first U.S. guided missile and it was intended to be launched from the ground, aircraft and ships , tests continued up to 1947 with the US Navy launching the JB-2 from submarines.

B-17G with 2 Loons. http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histories/B17/B17.htm

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Reply #1 - Jun 13^th, 2006 at 7:26pm

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Wow, very interesting. Shocked

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I had never heard of that. Thanks for sharing Doug (and for distracting me from studying for finals Grin

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Reply #2 - Jun 13^th, 2006 at 9:55pm

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Just because we don't employ them doesn't mean we don't have them. 8)
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Reply #3 - Jun 13^th, 2006 at 10:41pm

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Interesting article Doug. Thanks for sharing.
Where I live there's a "Doodlebug" on a pedestal on a corner of the county courthouse square.

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Reply #4 - Jun 14^th, 2006 at 3:29am

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Interesting article Doug. Thanks for sharing.
Where I live there's a "Doodlebug" on a pedestal on a corner of the county courthouse square.

We honour thee, noble buzz bomb. Grin

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Reply #5 - Jun 14^th, 2006 at 5:53am

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I do recall hearing something along those lines before. I think I've seen pictures of one being prepared for launch from the deck of a submarine.

Now if you want a really interesting example of nations taking inspiration from their enemies weapons then try to dig up some information about German bouncing bombs.

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Reply #6 - Jun 14^th, 2006 at 7:11am

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how about the Russian Tupelov TU-4 ? ? ?

look familiar?

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Reply #7 - Jun 14^th, 2006 at 7:21am

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Now if you want a really interesting example of nations taking inspiration from their enemies weapons then try to dig up some information about German bouncing bombs.

If this is the same documentary I've seen it includes footage of them being tested. http://bbc.net.uk/education/beyond/factsheets/makhist/makhist8_prog12b.shtml

"Making History
Kurt - the German bouncing bomb
Brief summary

After Barnes Wallis's bouncing bomb breached the Mohne and Eder Dams on the night of 16 May 1943, the Germans decided to make a bouncing bomb of their own. Their bomb, given the name Kurt, was built at the Luftwaffe Experimental Centre at Travemunde. It was intended that it would skip along the surface of the water and explode when it hit a ship. Early experiments showed it to be dangerous for the crew of the plane delivering it because it would explode when the plane was more or less over the ship. To increase the range at which it was dropped, a rocket tail unit was fitted. This too had its problems because it affected the consistency of the direction. In the end, it was abandoned and never became operational."

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Reply #8 - Jun 14^th, 2006 at 8:51am

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There is also a Doodlebug display at the UDvar-HAzy Center of the (US) National Air and Space Museum...

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Reply #9 - Jun 14^th, 2006 at 9:07am

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If this is the same documentary I've seen it includes footage of them being tested. http://bbc.net.uk/education/beyond/factsheets/makhist/makhist8_prog12b.shtml

"Making History
Kurt - the German bouncing bomb
Brief summary

After Barnes Wallis's bouncing bomb breached the Mohne and Eder Dams on the night of 16 May 1943, the Germans decided to make a bouncing bomb of their own. Their bomb, given the name Kurt, was built at the Luftwaffe Experimental Centre at Travemunde. It was intended that it would skip along the surface of the water and explode when it hit a ship. Early experiments showed it to be dangerous for the crew of the plane delivering it because it would explode when the plane was more or less over the ship. To increase the range at which it was dropped, a rocket tail unit was fitted. This too had its problems because it affected the consistency of the direction. In the end, it was abandoned and never became operational."

That looked like a radio programme to me. I think though that I've seen the same documentry as you Hagar. With a rocket powered bouncing bomb skipping clean over it's intended target. Grin

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Reply #10 - Jun 14^th, 2006 at 4:33pm

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how about the Russian Tupelov TU-4 ? ? ?

look familiar?

This is not a Tupolev TU-4, why it's, it's a Boeing B29! Wink

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Reply #11 - Jun 14^th, 2006 at 5:26pm

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This is not a Tupolev TU-4, why it's, it's a Boeing B29! Wink

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That wasn't really my point but it's a nice photo. I'm more interested in what's under the wing.

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Reply #12 - Jun 14^th, 2006 at 7:50pm

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I'd swear that what's under the wing is a Ryan Firebee drone!

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Reply #13 - Jun 14^th, 2006 at 8:33pm

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i once read an article about russian copies of TI computerchips used in SAMs.
the russian chips were fully interchangable with the original TI chips.

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Reply #14 - Jun 20^th, 2006 at 9:56pm

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Interesting article Doug. Thanks for sharing.
Where I live there's a "Doodlebug" on a pedestal on a corner of the county courthouse square.

You wouldn't happen to live in Columbus, Indiana, would you?

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Reply #15 - Jun 20^th, 2006 at 10:50pm

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You wouldn't happen to live in Columbus, Indiana, would you?

Nope, about 40 or so miles north in Putnam county.

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Reply #16 - Jun 20^th, 2006 at 10:55pm

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There's a B36 Peacemaker not far from where I live. It shouldn't be hard to figure that out.

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Reply #17 - Jun 21^st, 2006 at 4:59am

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There's a B36 Peacemaker not far from where I live. It shouldn't be hard to figure that out.

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Reply #18 - Jun 21^st, 2006 at 11:21am

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Those two planes and many more are in an indoor museum about 30 miles from where I live.

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Reply #19 - Jul 4^th, 2006 at 9:31am

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Nope, about 40 or so miles north in Putnam county.

I forgot that I posted that. Tongue

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I used to live in Indiana and I've been in so many of the little towns there that I get them mixed up.

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There's a B36 Peacemaker not far from where I live. It shouldn't be hard to figure that out.

You must live in or near Dayton Ohio, right? I love that museum. I used to got there a couple times a year when I lived in Indiana.

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