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Jun 9th, 2006 at 10:32pm

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here you have to fly through rings....hmm..

http://www.fs2004.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=78250

I dont like that.

Also, you can see one of the camera views is mounted on the tail.
 

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Reply #1 - Jun 9th, 2006 at 11:27pm

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Whats not to like? If it helps MS create a larger consumer base and sell more FS, then great!

I dont see why everyone is getting so upset over these new missions. They are not turning FS into some sort of video game. Remember, they ADDED stuff, they didnt take out anything! No one will be forced to play only these missions. We will still have the ability to roam the world as always, and still realistically portray flying..as always! Its not like they took away the ability to do a long-haul flight from L.A. to Tokyo. I bet most "hardcore" simmer may check out the default "arcade" missions once, and then ignore them for good. However, having the mission ability and mission editor will open up endless possiblities of recreating endless real life scenarios. Its actually a win-win situation.

Dont worry guys, its still our beloved FS as always, it just has some things added to attract those FPS kids.  Grin
 

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Reply #2 - Jun 9th, 2006 at 11:29pm

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For people who suck at flying as much as I do, this mission could end up being decent practice, so I see no problems.
 

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Reply #3 - Jun 10th, 2006 at 12:32am

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As Spitfire had already pointed out, the mission editors will be available. Just look at my "check this out" thread for the link o the article.

If you don't like it, fine. I like the missions. It's about damn time I am able to do something more challenging then just simply flying from point A to point B in a 737.

And as we have "all" seen in FS98, missions are nothing new really. Do you guys remember those flights where you had to fly from San Francisco Int'l to another airport nearby in a 737 while following the automated intructions of the ATC? And do you remember when the ATC would automatically terminate the service if you stray off too far? Now that's a mission back in the days for me.

You know, it's incredible how this whole FSX debate started oh so long ago when M$ first mentioned about it. First, we were debating on whether FS9 looked better then FSX with addons or not. That topic officially ended when we proved that not even payware addons can match the quality of the water, reflective buildings, bump mapping, etc. Then came the debate on whether FSX is only made for Vista. That topic ended as quickly as it began as soon as M$ said that it will be made for XP and DX9. Now here we are talking about missions. I can end this discussion by reminding all of you that we have had missions since FS98. This missions were called "adventures". And not only that, M$ has implemented the mission editor just as the IL2 series and Orbiter has used their own mission/scenario editors.

Now, what's the next topic of discussion [besides the dynamics cause we all can't be sure]?
 
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Reply #4 - Jun 10th, 2006 at 2:45am

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I cant wait for FSX but i still cant help but be reluctant to have the sim to become like a game...  If we fly online and some new guy comes in not understanding anything about flight or aviation and just wants to compete, eh, I just think it will be weird. I guess some of the missions will be good, like in one video your a chopper pilot who needs to save people on the oil rig, im looking forward to that one Grin Flying through rings, not my thing. Still cant wait but I dont like the direction M$ is going with this.

Just my humble opinion...  Grin


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Just FULLY read the above posts and I do realize the sim will still have what we all like and were still free to roam, but I guess what type of people it may bring in, always competeing and not just flying for the fun of it. But hey, it looks great and as I said I cant wait  Grin Grin
 

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Reply #5 - Jun 10th, 2006 at 12:17pm

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Dont get me wrong, I like the mission's idea

I just personally dont like this particular one.
 

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Reply #6 - Jun 10th, 2006 at 1:20pm

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I cant wait for FSX but i still cant help but be reluctant to have the sim to become like a game...  If we fly online and some new guy comes in not understanding anything about flight or aviation and just wants to compete, eh, I just think it will be weird. I guess some of the missions will be good, like in one video your a chopper pilot who needs to save people on the oil rig, im looking forward to that one Grin Flying through rings, not my thing. Still cant wait but I dont like the direction M$ is going with this.

Just my humble opinion...  Grin


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Just FULLY read the above posts and I do realize the sim will still have what we all like and were still free to roam, but I guess what type of people it may bring in, always competeing and not just flying for the fun of it. But hey, it looks great and as I said I cant wait  Grin Grin


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Reply #7 - Jun 10th, 2006 at 2:55pm

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Those first three Learjet shots suck, they actually look worse than my FS2004???! Is that FSX?!
 

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Reply #8 - Jun 10th, 2006 at 3:01pm

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Well, flying has always had some "game" element to it.

There's the old "barnstorming....

Air shows with what some might consider "frivilous", "show biz" type demostations.....

RC aircraft club "fun fly" meets where all sorts of frivilous fun things are done with aircraft.

Finally there are all the GA flyers who simply fly for the pure enjoymrnt of it and to have FUN!

As long as MSFS still continues to develope and improve the FS core, I say, bring on the purely optional "games".  Smiley

 

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Reply #9 - Jun 10th, 2006 at 3:03pm

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Those first three Learjet shots suck, they actually look worse than my FS2004???! Is that FSX?!


Just remember that the computers they are using may not even be using DX10 since DX10 is till under development and there is also a possibility that they may have adjusted the setting in the display menu to a lower setting.

For all I know, M$ could be messing with our heads by making FSX look crappy and then plan to surprise us all with improvements on the last minute. I know I would do that if I was in charge of the development team. Grin
 
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Reply #10 - Jun 10th, 2006 at 4:53pm

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Just remember that the computers they are using may not even be using DX10 since DX10 is till under development and there is also a possibility that they may have adjusted the setting in the display menu to a lower setting.

For all I know, M$ could be messing with our heads by making FSX look crappy and then plan to surprise us all with improvements on the last minute. I know I would do that if I was in charge of the development team. Grin



Or, it could have been just a demo without all the enhanced grapics of the final product....or what katahu said Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #11 - Jun 14th, 2006 at 1:09pm

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Who knows, maybe they will have an "Ozzy" mission where you have to take the biggest thing you can find and try to land it on a helipad! Wink
 
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Reply #12 - Jun 14th, 2006 at 2:51pm

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Who knows, maybe they will have an "Ozzy" mission where you have to take the biggest thing you can find and try to land it on a helipad! Wink



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Reply #13 - Jun 14th, 2006 at 3:49pm

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Who knows, maybe they will have an "Ozzy" mission where you have to take the biggest thing you can find and try to land it on a helipad! Wink


Now that's a challenge. Imagine an Antonov 225 coming in hot while inverted and attempting to land on a grass strip in the middle of a swamp. Grin
 
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Reply #14 - Jun 14th, 2006 at 3:49pm

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Finally there are all the GA flyers who simply fly for the pure enjoymrnt of it and to have FUN!


Actually they go to a distant airport for lunch at the field rest. ,and then return home........ making it the world's most expensive lunch!   Wink


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Reply #15 - Jun 14th, 2006 at 4:48pm

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Actually they go to a distant airport for lunch at the field rest. ,and then return home........ making it the world's most expensive lunch!   Winkbest,......................john


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Reply #16 - Jun 14th, 2006 at 10:18pm
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Hey
FsX will still look great on DX9 renember Smiley They showed off fsX at E3 on a single 7800GTX Smiley

Also, all the published screenshots are on DX9 Smiley

Maybe the reasons why they are showing these arcade style missions is because Microsoft wants it to be more popular, and maybe to be a showoff at e3?
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Reply #17 - Jun 15th, 2006 at 4:05am

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I have a very early version of FS somewhere, it has a crop spraying mission.  This is not a new concept at all and I for one am glad to see it back.  How many times have you tried to explain your enthusiasm for flight sim to someone only to have them ask you; "what do you actually do" to which you reply that you just fly about......

This conversation usually ends with your friend walking away thinking that you are a little odd.  With the missions you can at least convey purpose and maybe people will get it a little more and may be even try FS out.  That, I feel, is what MS have  in mind.

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Reply #18 - Jun 15th, 2006 at 7:36am

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think carefully for a moment.  ask ur selves, why do we complain about FSX.  Things r added, not removed.  Things r upgraded, not dumped.  Aircraft and missions r added, but no one is forcing you to play the missions or use the new aircraft first.  Sure, FSX is going to be more of a game, but will still be FS. 
Its like in GTA:  you didn't have to play missions.  you could just roam around killing people, not that that was a good thing.

The first time I played FS, it was 98, cuz I always loved planes and aviation.  Now, i got FS9, and I think its a huge leap from 98 (even tho when you transport tourists around NY they're not actually in ur heli).  I used to have the best graphics card at one stage (GeForce 4), but now its outdated.  So im now building an aircraft carrier for FS9, to sell (fairly cheaply) so I can upgrade my comp and buy FSX, cuz I love flying.  We shouldnt complain about the new FS, cuz we're all working to buy it.  This post may mean nothing to you now, but think about all the things being added to make ur simming experience great:

1.  More Aircraft
2.  Missions
3.  Working Ground Crew (in some FAQs)
4.  People and animals
5.  Moving Cars on Roads
6.  Bump Mapping
7.  Great Water/Building/Aircraft Reflections
8.  Lens Effects

Many more things too (i think)

Lets be thankful, (although its nowhere near thanksgiving) that we have FS (otherwise we'd all have to get a pilot's license and Cessna - which ain't cheap).
 

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Reply #19 - Jun 17th, 2006 at 1:12am

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do not fear missions beleve me, beeeeeeleave me when i say from a position of experence with other sims, when they introduce actual things to do. other than just flying. its going to be fun. and i would be extreamly suprised if we could not just fly around in what we want when we want like we have been doing since we all started flying. but aside from that in an optinal mission or even carrear mode. we might be told  what to do but even there i would expect flexability, and missions dont mean games. just more things to do in the sim world Grin. even if they suck, big f-ing deal just dont use them

the one thing i would not want to see and would dread are guns. when you start shooting it turns into a combat sim. and then thats all you want to do and the 737 collects dust and fs looses its draw    Embarrassed
 

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