Simviation Forum - "Stupid" router question

Jun 5^th, 2006 at 12:50pm

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Can't find an answer in any stickies here... I understand how to set up a router for MP, but my question is:
If the router's firewall is opened to allow traffic thru it, the computers behind it will still be protected by their own firewalls, right?
Also, I'm a little sketchy on the involvement of router IP vs local machine IP... I assume that in my scenario (four computers, only one which is mine, sharing a connection through a router [not networked!]), if I am set up for a MP connection, the others will be unaffected, except for the router firewall now being disabled?

I have some issues with FS9 itself keeping me out of MP, but I'm hoping to remedy that soon, and I need to understand more about dealing with the router... I just need to avoid making any housemates' lives miserable.

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Reply #1 - Jun 5^th, 2006 at 1:45pm

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most firewall problems are with the computer firewall. Both computer and router firewall need to be opened. If you disable the router firewall the computer will still have a firewall to protect your computer. But in order to do mp both need to have the ports open

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Reply #2 - Jun 5^th, 2006 at 3:42pm

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most firewall problems are with the computer firewall. Both computer and router firewall need to be opened. If you disable the router firewall the computer will still have a firewall to protect your computer. But in order to do mp both need to have the ports open

Roger that... just making sure I've got it right. Thanks.

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Reply #3 - Jun 6^th, 2006 at 10:56am

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If your opening ports through the router then they only apply to the computer they are opened for. For instance I have 3 computers on the network. If I want to MP then I open the ports on my FS comp ..... if I want to host a session then I open the ports on both my FS comp and the Comp that hosts the server. In both these cases my wifes computer is completely unaffected as the router doesn't open any ports on hers.

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Reply #4 - Jun 6^th, 2006 at 11:01am

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If your opening ports through the router then they only apply to the computer they are opened for. For instance I have 3 computers on the network. If I want to MP then I open the ports on my FS comp ..... if I want to host a session then I open the ports on both my FS comp and the Comp that hosts the server. In both these cases my wifes computer is completely unaffected as the router doesn't open any ports on hers.

exactly.. this is also the reason why you cannot connect to an internet multiplayer session with more than one computer from a Local Network !!

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Reply #5 - Jun 6^th, 2006 at 12:03pm

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Also, if you "manually" open ports in the Windows Firewall for game play on a specific server, make sure to assign the port to be open to ONLY THAT SERVER'S IP ADDRESS.......not the whole darn Internet. It is an option when you are assigning open ports.

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Reply #6 - Jun 6^th, 2006 at 12:58pm

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exactly.. this is also the reason why you cannot connect to an internet multiplayer session with more than one computer from a Local Network !!

Thats not true!!! I had my laptop and my friends computer going through the same router and we were both flying online.

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Reply #7 - Jun 6^th, 2006 at 2:55pm

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How could you forward one port to more than 1 computer ?

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Reply #8 - Jun 6^th, 2006 at 4:19pm

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Thats not true!!! I had my laptop and my friends computer going through the same router and we were both flying online.

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How could you forward one port to more than 1 computer ?

Let me guess that some port(s) were not set up right if that was the case. Wink

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Reply #9 - Jun 6^th, 2006 at 4:28pm

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i dunno why, but maby it was just a freak of nature Grin

i may try again later to see if its still possible.

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Reply #10 - Jun 7^th, 2006 at 4:35am

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Actually it´s possible to do this with a VPN (Virtual Private Network).
But in that case the server would no longer be
available to the public as an open internet server.
In general you can only forward a specific port to one computer.
Games that use a real Client Server Connection don´t have this problem..
cause every computer will be assigned a unique User port, just like with http..
where more than one computer can use the internet through a router.
In Flightsim each client also is a Server (peer to peer).
The Flighsim Server you connect to, just routes you further to another User.
You can see who you are connected to, when you quit the session..
a message will appear "UserXY" has left the session. The advantage of this method:
The Server itself causes very few traffic.
Theoretically an unlimited amount of users are possible.
The disadvantages are the port problems. If someone didn´t correctly set up his ports... another player won´t be able to connect or you don´t see other players aircraft.. and so on !!

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