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May 31st, 2006 at 10:47am

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The Rockies boast some of the most breath taking views in the world, stunning scenery, and filled with wildlife.

This has to be, one of the most, beautiful places in the world.

Welcome to the "Rockies".

Join in with the Simalive Flight simulation tours, to fly around this Magnificent place.

This tour will involve light General Aviation aircraft touring the Rockies, uncovering the beauty it has to offer.
The tour will really test your flying skills and capabilities as  we climb higher, and higher to see what this fantasic place has to offer.

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General Information

Start date of the first hop of this tour

TUESDAY 13TH JUNE 2006 AT 8:15 PM GMT

Aircraft to fly

Light - Powerful GA aircraft, capable of climbing to high altitudes

Reccomended Mesh to download

Please go to the link below to view information on how to download and install the mesh:

http://www.simviation.com/fsdterrainsrtm.htm

Required Mesh for this Tour:

NA44
NA45
NA46
NA54
NA55
NA56


Map of the area we will be flying around

http://www.pgrentals.com/images/colorado_map.gif

We will be flying within Colorado and surrounding areas.

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I look forward to seeing you on this tour, and i hope you all can make it.

PLEASE make any suggestions/improvements within this thread.

Many thanks,

James - Simalive
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Reply #1 - May 31st, 2006 at 11:03am

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Sounds like fun again Grin

powerful aircraft ey? Legacy seems to be the plane of choise again Wink
 
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Reply #2 - May 31st, 2006 at 12:14pm

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What server will this be on?
 
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Reply #3 - May 31st, 2006 at 12:39pm

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i am so there  Grin  whould the Spartan work? or is that not a mountian type aircraft?
 
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Reply #4 - May 31st, 2006 at 5:30pm

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What server will this be on?


This will be on the official Simviation Server:

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=Multi;action=display;num=1...

Cheers,

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Reply #5 - May 31st, 2006 at 7:25pm
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I will try to come as often as I can in my DC-3, but I wont make the first one cause I will be at NASA
 
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Reply #6 - May 31st, 2006 at 11:42pm

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cool! I bet I can make Tuesday..... Piper Apache ok? I hope it's powerful enough..
 
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Reply #7 - Jun 1st, 2006 at 9:29am
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cool! I bet I can make Tuesday..... Piper Apache ok? I hope it's powerful enough..


Do you mean Bill Lyons twin?  If so, no, you need to turbo charge it.

ANY Prop aircraft MUST BE TURBOCHARGED to handle high altitudes
 
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Reply #8 - Jun 1st, 2006 at 10:45am

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I wont be able to make the first one, but I will try to come on the later ones.  Will the Statojet Merlin work?
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I wont be able to make the first one, but I will try o come on the later ones.  Will the Statojet Merlin work?



Should be fine as long as you keep te speed down a bit and it has quite good STOL abilities.
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Reply #10 - Jun 1st, 2006 at 11:43pm

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Hey Im new here and Id like to fly with u guys but is there anything I should dl?
 
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Reply #11 - Jun 2nd, 2006 at 12:13am
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Hi DAZ1204,

welcome to Simviation. You will probably have to download some parts of the SRTM mesh that you can find on this site. Here: http://simviation.com/fsdterrainsrtm.htm
Just don't start downloading yet, check this place for the parts you will need. You don't need to download airplanes, just stick to the default ones.

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Ok,I had already dl some planes,dont know what Ill fly yet though...
 
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Reply #13 - Jun 2nd, 2006 at 7:19am

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Until Jimbo publishes a flight plan of the Rockies area I am curious at to the sorts of altitude we will be encountering.
The choice of my default piston props may be limited, due to carburettor problems at high altitudes...!!!
Anyone know how high the Rockies are...?
It's always a problem leaving an airfield, at high altitude in a deep valley, and clearing high mountains on all sides with a piston prop aircraft even with careful monitoring of the Throttle, Carburettor Mixture, and Propeller Controls...!!!
It would be nice to use a Dh Beaver, Aviat, or Bellanca "Bush-type- wheel/float" aircraft but they are not Default aircraft, and they are all piston props fitted with carburettors...!
That leaves the Default Cessna's, 172,182 and the Beechcraft Baron, and I am curious as to how they would cope with safe high altitude touring in the Rockies...?
We shall see when we can view the map of the area...Grin...LOL...!

Cheers Pilots... Grin...!

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Paul,

The Rockies have 14,000 foot peaks.  Many airports, like Telluride and Aspen, are in the 9000 foot range, if I remember correctly.  Denver, a low point......  is at 5280 feet.

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The Rockies have 14,000 foot peaks.  Many airports, like Telluride and Aspen, are in the 9000 foot range, if I remember correctly.  Denver, a low point......  is at 5280 feet.

best,

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Yep, its about 10,000 and up.  Ive been on Pikes Peak, tallest one inn the colorado rockies, about 14,400 feet. 

As I said before, any piston will need to be turbocharged.  So either find one that is or go into the aircraft.cfg of the one you sidh to use and under engine data youll see turbocharged=0, change the 0 to 1 and you have yourself a turbocharged airplane
 
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Reply #16 - Jun 2nd, 2006 at 9:59am
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Ok, so it's very easy to put a turbo in my C182? Cool.

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Reply #17 - Jun 2nd, 2006 at 12:48pm

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Yet another use for a trusty spitfire...handles mountains like they are molehills  Grin Cheesy
 
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Reply #18 - Jun 2nd, 2006 at 3:06pm
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Ill probably be using the Beechcraft Baron 58TC if I can come. I've done aerobatics at the top of Mt. Everest in that so it shouldnt be a problem.

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Im using the turbo baron...hopefully itll work.
 
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Yet another use for a trusty spitfire...handles mountains like they are molehills  Grin Cheesy


http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=COF;action=display;num=114...

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Jacob, I suspect the turbo-charged Default Beech Baron will be my only choice for the Rockies Tour.
I can't think of any other Default! piston General Aviation aircraft* in the Hangar which would fill the bill for flight at high altitudes.... ...!

* Remembering that this is a General Aviation Tour, not a Warbird training exercise...Shocked...!

Cheers...!

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I have suddenly overcome my fear of heights after many years of sim flying... Wink...!

Just tried out my Trusty Default Beech Baron to see if it is capable of clearing the Rocky Mountains, (14,000 feet?).

I took it up from sea level to 20,000 ASL at a climb rate of 1000 FPM and a speed of 160 to 180 knots with careful adjustment of the Mixture controls at higher altitudes, (Makes a BIG difference!).
So it took round about 20 minutes to level out at 20,000 feet ASL, and a final, level flight, full throttle speed of 200 knots.

Increasing the rate-of-climb considerably works fine to increase height quickly at the expense of a slower overall climb speed!

So it looks as though my General Aviation! Default Beechcraft Baron 58 is more than adequate for the job in hand... Wink...!

Sorted... Grin...!

Paul...G-BPLF... 8)...!

The course, height, and rate of climb, were all set on the Radios, using the Autopilot... Wink...!
 
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Rocky Mountain National Park. Colorado.

Visitor site:

http://www.nps.gov/romo/

Excellent, zoomable maps:

http://www.nps.gov/romo/visit/maps.html National Park

Cheers all...!

Paul... 8)...!

..saved the map file on my desktop... Wink...!
 
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Rocky Mountain National Park. Colorado.

Visitor site:

http://www.nps.gov/romo/

Excellent, zoomable maps:

http://www.nps.gov/romo/visit/maps.html National Park

Cheers all...!

Paul... 8)...!

..saved the map file on my desktop... Wink...!


Cheers for the Map Foz!

Had little time this weekend to post any more up-to-date detailed info regarding the Rockies Tour, but over the weekend i will include the mesh etc that you need.

Cheers Chaps, and have a great weekend.

PS: You might want to slow down foz (160) because at that rate you will finish the tour within a day..LOL!


 
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Cheers for the Map Foz!

Had little time this weekend to post any more up-to-date detailed info regarding the Rockies Tour, but over the weekend i will include the mesh etc that you need.

Cheers Chaps, and have a great weekend.

PS: You might want to slow down foz (160) because at that rate you will finish the tour within a day..LOL!




Tee-Hee.... Grin...!

...slow down...?

Mmmmm......may think about it... Wink....!

LOL... Grin...!

By the way....just installed 2 Scenery Mesh files of Colorado....around 13 MB each.
NA44, and NA45

May need one of two more perhaps, depending upon the area we will be flying:

http://www.simviation.com/fsdterrainsrtm.htm

Cheers all...!

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...as a pleasant alternative to the Beech Baron twin, this turbo-charged, single prop, very slippery, speedy beauty is an excellent alternative up grade from the standard Cessna 182S to the Cessna 182 RG, (Retractable Gear)...Grin...!

All for FREE!...and available from here, with a SUPERB wood panel, with all the fitments you could ever wish for, courtesy of Robert Hawk...!!!

...and you can even have your own registration letters/numbers in the fuselague....Wink...!

An ideal, high performance, General Aviation tourer for the Rocky Mountains...Grin...!

http://www.simviation.com/fs2004props16.htm


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Just remember the WHEELS after take-off, and before landing...LOL... Grin...!

Cheers all...!

Paul...G-BPLF... Grin...!

P.S. I just need a "Jimbo Airfeld" somewhere in the National Park to try it out... Wink...!
 
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I can't stand this anymore- I'm going to try to finally fix my Multiplayer problem for this one; I don't want to miss it.

I've done quite a bit of FS9 flying in the Rockies- mostly in the DC3 (which, given time, will clear the highest peaks, and does well at high-alt. fields), but I think going smaller is a good idea for visiting some really short mtn. strips.... hmmm...

As for the recommended mesh, I'd recommend the free SRTM mesh available here at SimV. I've seen quite a bit of it for this area, and it's not bad, looks or framerate-wise.

 
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If you guys are planning to extend your tour of the "Rocky Mountains" over into the Tetons in Wyoming.........

It would be WELL worth it to buy the "Yellowstone" payware package 10m mesh from FSGenesis; it makes that area amazing.   I think as a single download it is about $10.  (Broadband... it is big!.)

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I have been tootling around the area the past couple of days, and actually wasn't too worried by the heights...
...because...
The whole of Colorado seems to be built on a plateau 8,000+ feet above sea level as it is... Shocked...!
So from most airstrips it's only a couple of thousand feet climb-out to clear the tops of most of the mountains...Wink...!

I've already installed the NA44 and NA45 SRTM mesh so far, and its quite impressive. No frame rate hit... Grin...!

Cheers all...!

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I have been tootling around the area the past couple of days, and actually wasn't too worried by the heights...
...because...
The whole of Colorado seems to be built on a plateau 8,000+ feet above sea level as it is... Shocked...!
So from most airstrips it's only a couple of thousand feet climb-out to clear the tops of most of the mountains...Wink...!


Aye, and many passes through the mountains- half the fun of mtn flying is navigating passes! No need to always fly at an elevation for safe clearance of the tallest peak in the quadrangle ( I assume this will be a VFR flight?).
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I've already installed the NA44 and NA45 SRTM mesh so far, and its quite impressive. No frame rate hit... Grin...!


It's also pretty benign as far as airport elevations, etc. go. I've seen some anomalies, but no worse than the default mesh.


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Paul...Need to twiddle with the mixture control(s) at high altitudes.... Wink...!

Oh, yeah... even with  turbocharging, starting at the midway point then checking for best power is a must during run-up at fields ab ove 5,000 MSL.
 
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Reply #30 - Jun 6th, 2006 at 6:52pm
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Would a....um......Piper J-3 Cub work?? Grin Grin Grin JUST joking! Grin
How about a Cessna 172SP or a 182S Skylane? If not then tough beans! Grin Grin
Not really. Im game for a more powerful prop aircraft. Just direct me to it!
 
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Reply #31 - Jun 6th, 2006 at 6:55pm
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Yep, its about 10,000 and up.  Ive been on Pikes Peak, tallest one inn the colorado rockies, about 14,400 feet.  

As I said before, any piston will need to be turbocharged.  So either find one that is or go into the aircraft.cfg of the one you sidh to use and under engine data youll see turbocharged=0, change the 0 to 1 and you have yourself a turbocharged airplane


How do you open the aircraft.cfg? What is a program that could open it?

 
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just double click on it then when ms asks what program you want to open it with click notepad Wink
 
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First hop tour details will be uploaded late this evening (GMT)

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