Simviation Forum - Starship?

May 30^th, 2006 at 4:14pm

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Yesterday I was at my friends house in her pool, and I saw what looked like a Beech Starship fly over. It had those swept wings with the elevator canard in front. To my knowledge, I thought they all were retired, but maybe not..?

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Reply #1 - May 30^th, 2006 at 5:09pm

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Yesterday I was at my friends house in her pool, and I saw what looked like a Beech Starship fly over. It had those swept wings with the elevator canard in front. To my knowledge, I thought they all were retired, but maybe not..?

Theres a few flying. But was it a twin turbo that you saw? Maybe you say a Rutan Long-Ez, those look like mini starships

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Reply #2 - May 30^th, 2006 at 5:56pm

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Possibly a Piaggio P180

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_P-180_Avanti

Nice little aircraft.

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Reply #3 - May 30^th, 2006 at 7:17pm

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Possibly a Piaggio P180

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_P-180_Avanti

Nice little aircraft.

But if he thought it was a starship I doubt it was a Piaggio, the two look nothing alike

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Reply #4 - May 30^th, 2006 at 7:30pm

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From below I think it wouldn't be that hard to confuse them.

Both pushers

Both swept wings

Both front canard setups

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Reply #5 - May 30^th, 2006 at 9:41pm

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Avanti with swept wings ?.....none that I've ever seen ! Roll Eyes

Starship has no vertical stabilizer above the rear fuse....it has two, on the tips of the main wing......
Avanti has a T-tail.......
Starship has only two separate horizontal surfaces(canard and wing), while the Avanti has three (canard, wing, horizontal stab)..........

.......some pretty large differences there ?

Although not to scale, you can see that it would be pretty hard to confuse the two......

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Reply #6 - May 30^th, 2006 at 10:49pm

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Erk my mistake, in a quick glance I still reckon I could confuse it.

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Reply #7 - May 30^th, 2006 at 11:46pm

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Most Beech Starships are retired and awaiting destruction but a hundfull were bought by some guy who keeps them running. But apperently they have been downgraded to Experimental class so they cant be flown commercially anymore.

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Reply #8 - May 31^st, 2006 at 12:24am

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Avanti with swept wings ?.....none that I've ever seen ! Roll Eyes

Starship has no vertical stabilizer above the rear fuse....it has two, on the tips of the main wing......
Avanti has a T-tail.......
Starship has only two separate horizontal surfaces(canard and wing), while the Avanti has three (canard, wing, horizontal stab)..........

.......some pretty large differences there ?

Although not to scale, you can see that it would be pretty hard to confuse the two......

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Thats why I highly doubt it would be confused lol

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Reply #9 - May 31^st, 2006 at 1:50am

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Yesterday I was at my friends house in her pool, and I saw what looked like a Beech Starship fly over. It had those swept wings with the elevator canard in front. To my knowledge, I thought they all were retired, but maybe not..?

You are at your friends house, in her pool and you are looking at aeroplanes...................sad Undecided

Matt

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Reply #10 - May 31^st, 2006 at 10:54am

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ex-pat, i agree completely, if your in her pool i think that there will be something a lot more tasty to look at...

well in my case that is Grin

(no joke)
some FUN summer days to be spent there!!! Grin

8)

cheers
james

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Reply #11 - May 31^st, 2006 at 3:35pm

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You are at your friends house, in her pool and you are looking at aeroplanes...................sad Undecided

Matt

I had a feeling this would come up Grin

It sounded different than a Cessna which would usually fly over, so I had to look up.

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