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The Matrix Revolutions....! (Read 547 times)
May 5
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, 2006 at 6:14am
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...flippin', bleedin' Norah...
We sat and watched this load of eye-wash the other night on the Television...
...and wondered why...
...!
We all had a long discussion afterwards as to what it was all about, and why the film company bothered making it in the first place...!
The first film was "curious", but after that the whole series got more and more daft by the episode...!!!
We had the impression that, during filming, the Director constantly ran out of ideas, and everyone regularly got together in the canteen and suggested possible scenarios and for the next scene, which
might
work...!
Sadly, we didn't think any of them were particularly successful...
So they got the graphics artists and animators in to fill in the gaps...as they do...
...
What a load of old Cods-Wallop...!
Is there a chance that we wont be inflicted with any more similar
crap
episodes of "The Matrix"...
...!
Let's tell Messrs Larry and Andy Wachowski (Directors) they have now flogged it to death...!
I don't know about you lot out there, but films like this stretch the imagination to breaking point and cease to be Family Entertainment....LOL...
...!
What do you reckon...?
LOL...!
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May 5
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, 2006 at 9:40am
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The first one was pretty good but then the directors got above themselves and tried to be clever and turn it into a philisophic debate.
I just wanna see stuff 'splode.
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May 5
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, 2006 at 1:29pm
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Well, some critics believe that the downfall of the Matrix trilogy was because it was mostly based on the Japanese anime concept that is understandable to the Japanese but completely confusing to us crazy yanks.
Notice that some of the people involved in its production are Japanese; notice how samuri swords are one of the commonly-used weapons; notice the level of clitche and the use of a so-called "mega city" as the background; and finally the verbose comments used by almost all of the characters [especially the evil ones].
Look at "Yu-Gi-Yo The Movie". It may have been a hit in Japan, but it really had negative wrap by the American critics.
But I wouldn't discredit the Wachowski Brothers just yet. Look at "V for Vendetta". It became a real hit. A sign that the brothers might be getting back on track, although that movie also had some of the anime traits.
So, until we Americans can better understand Japanese culture, The Matrix trilogy might one day just fade away in the history books as a spoof and the chances of us ever understanding such culture is "ziltch".
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May 5
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, 2006 at 1:32pm
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I think the sequel to "The Matrix" should have been the "Simviatrix"
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May 5
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, 2006 at 3:12pm
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I found the first one boring...didn't even think about watching the rest of them
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May 5
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, 2006 at 4:55pm
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I gotta tell you, I may be the only one on the planet, but I liked all three.
I mean common, they were entertaining.
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May 5
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, 2006 at 5:44pm
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I gotta tell you, I may be the only one on the planet, but I liked all three.
I mean common, they were entertaining.
You're not the only one, Beef. Thankfully, I have enough understanding of Japanese culture to enjoy any entertainment based on the anime concept.
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May 5
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, 2006 at 6:12pm
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I'm partial to a bit of anime but what put me off the last two matrix films was the terrible script (I've never heard a plot worse explained or relatively simple Philosophical concepts made so complicated and confusing), wooden acting by the main characters, a story that has no sense of continuity and an over reliance on CGI in the last film.
Mind you I though Agent Smith was done fantastically and Morpheus in the first film was just damn cool.
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May 5
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, 2006 at 8:27pm
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I loved the first film. It was just flat out awesome. I think the last two were terrible, but at the very least the last one could be watched as an inane action movie. Boom boom boom!
The final fight had some redeeming value. Some.
Also, anime and Japan are not coterminous. I dare say America is more into anime than Japan.
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May 5
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, 2006 at 10:27pm
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The fight scenes in the second were some of the best ever performed in a movie, and I mean ever. On that alone it was a good movie, convoluted plot or not. The chase scene with the two pale guys on the freeway was cinematic choreogrpahy at its most brilliant.
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May 6
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, 2006 at 12:42am
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You most definitely have a point there. If judged on an action movie's criteria, the last one was stellar. The highway scene, the sentinels breaking into Zion, Neo & Smith, etc. Blastastical!
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May 6
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, 2006 at 10:36am
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Matrix, has a very strong philosofic culture we all always has Experiment that we are living in some kind of dream ,since we were kids.Are we living this reality, or someone or something is making me see this reality in this way?..This is the primary philosophy of this great picture ,is kind of complicate it ,so they did have to "MIX" it with effects,and japanese,chinese fighting with also a new combine of effects to exagerate and make more "fantastic" this wonderful movie,and about the second reloade it ,and revolutions is to add something to an already Piece of Art,both has nothing else,in fact seems like a soapopera...is my personal opinion
EDIT:Beyond of special effects fightings etc,I think the most important argument of this revolutionary motion picture is Its philosophy as science fiction.....
P.S.Im I big fan of this first epic movie,Is it show?
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May 7
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, 2006 at 8:41am
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The first one was incredible and in every possible way superior to the next two. Reloaded was below-par and Revolutions isn't that much better, but the final fight is very good.
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May 7
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As action movies go ........... all three are better than most of the recent crop. As Sci-Fi movies ..... yet again better than most of the recent crop. As a story ........ it's pretty good.
However by far and away the best movie trilogy is the Lord of the Rings.
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May 7
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, 2006 at 6:10pm
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As action movies go ........... all three are better than most of the recent crop. As Sci-Fi movies ..... yet again better than most of the recent crop. As a story ........ it's pretty good.
However by far and away the best movie trilogy is the Lord of the Rings.
I never understood what was going on in Star Wars, but all that matters is when those spaceships would get out there and start going
phew
phew
phew
!!!
That was pretty much the only reason to watch Star Wars. It was like a big tech demo.
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May 8
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, 2006 at 4:59pm
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Someone mentioned Japan and Anime?
I love Anime ( although they do get kinda weird sometimes)
But G-Seed and Naruto are way cool! ( also the most knwon ones so I'll leave it at that)
Japanese movies are kinda weird too sometimes.
The supreme weird movie being Yakuza's law.
but then again you have some proper shock movies like Ichi the killer and Battle Royale!
As for the matrix... I liked them but never saw 2
btw if ya wanna real sick anime... Elfen lied......
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May 9
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, 2006 at 10:41am
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btw if ya wanna real sick anime... Elfen lied......
I have a collection of anime.
Gundam Seed [only two volumes]
Yukikazi [the first volume]
Infinit Ryvius [again the first volume]
Ghost in the Shell [two volumes]
Ghost in the Shell: 2 [never saw the first movie]
And many more.
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May 11
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I've always thought the concept was brilliant I've always been really into the "cyberpunk" genre from way back; if you aren't familiar with them, read anything by Gibson or Sterling, who really captured the vibe of a possible near-future with super-immersive simulation experiences.
And regardless, these three movies are terrific eye candy. A whole generation of CGI and trick-photography artists owe their careers to the inspiration of the first movie.
I pretty much enjoyed all three in the series (although #2 was a little bit too talky, as if they were afraid people wouldn't understand the plot)...
Revolutions
would've been nearly perfect, except for some of the super-corny stuff. Having Trinity die? Wow! Intense! Great story point! But the way they did that scene... almost puked. It was cornier than anything Disney ever made... very disappointing.
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