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From liners to bush flying: texture galore (Read 1187 times)
Apr 26
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Months ago I used to enjoy flying big liners.
Then for some reason (I guess you can call me a lunatic) I got bored and dropped FS 2004 altogether.
I picked it up again just recently, after attending an air show which prompted me to go back to the basics and enjoy low and slow flying with small GA or very light airplanes.
And I have found I'm not satisfied with the way the ground and water textures look from low altitudes.
In facts, when I used to fly big liners I installed the Blue Sphere set of textures, which eliminated some fog display problems and, generally speaking, made the world look better from high altitudes.
Now I'd like to install different textures, more suitable for "bush flying", but how do I go about it?
If I just copy the new files in the "texture" folder, will they just overwrite the current (Blue Sphere) ones? Or will I have to identify all the Blue Sphere files and manually remove them, thus resetting the default situation, prior to applying the new textures?
Which texture packet do you suggest anyway (payware included, provided they are not too expensive and really worth it)?
I'd also appreciate, since I'm prepared to spare some bucks, the suggestion of a good payware GA plane with these features:
- slightly faster and longer running than the Cessna 172
- easy to handle, with a predictable flight model
- highly detailed and realistic
I'm considering Carenado's Piper Cherokee 180, what do you think?
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My system specifications:
FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2004 - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU - 3 GB PC-3200 DDR400 dual channel RAM - 500 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm SATA-II hard disk - Sapphire Radeon HD 5750 1 GB PCI-E graphic card - Logitech Wingman Force 3D joystick + Logitech Formula Force pedals
My FS whereabouts:
low and slow, small single engine prop GA, Italy airfields.
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Apr 26
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I'd also appreciate, since I'm prepared to spare some bucks, the suggestion of a good payware GA plane with these features:
- slightly faster and longer running than the Cessna 172
- easy to handle, with a predictable flight model
- highly detailed and realistic
I'm considering Carenado's Piper Cherokee 180, what do you think?
You don't need to spend any money download the Socata TB10 from here
http://www.simviation.com/members/fs2004props43.htm
Miles better than all the Cessnas
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Apr 26
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Hey Friday!
I used to do the same thing until I invested some money into meshes, add ons. etc..
Now Bush Flying is the only way for me.
I love to fire up the sim and go to some remote airfield in British Columbia, Alaska, Switzerland, etc.. and just take off with nowhere to go except the sky. Huge mountains, ravines, lakes,, streams, etc with only my GPS to tell me where the next landing might take place.
As for a nice GA Aircraft, the Cessna Stationair is a little powerhouse with real nice VC and some unique details that make it a nice kite to fly!!
I just did what I described above last night, see here!
SEE HERE!!
Hum,.,,,,,,
now where to move this,
"Other Add ons wanted" or "Payware".......
Dave
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Apr 26
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"If I just copy the new files in the "texture" folder, will they just overwrite the current (Blue Sphere) ones? Or will I have to identify all the Blue Sphere files and manually remove them, thus resetting the default situation, prior to applying the new textures?"
Your call, captain . . .
I always backup before attempting to change anything regarding computers. Then -- when things go bad, as they often do -- I just replace the files. But, yes, to the question; that
model
will use those
filenames
- slightly faster and longer running than the Cessna 172
- easy to handle, with a predictable flight model
- highly detailed and realistic
That would be Flight One's Meridian PA46-500 or F1's Pilatus PC-12
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Apr 26
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Thanks for the suggestions.
Now I have a few a/c to choose from (plus the Socata, which I already have, but it's one of many a/c that, for some reason, have a flight model that renders them almost unusable with my joystick. They are continuously shifting on their axes; it's almost impossible to keep them leveled. Don't ask me why, it must be the stick).
What I still lack is the suggestion for a good texture package to replace Blue Sphere; freeware or payware, or both.
Silver Wings look promising, but according to the description, it also modifies things I'd rather leave alone (autogen, clouds).
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My system specifications:
FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2004 - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU - 3 GB PC-3200 DDR400 dual channel RAM - 500 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm SATA-II hard disk - Sapphire Radeon HD 5750 1 GB PCI-E graphic card - Logitech Wingman Force 3D joystick + Logitech Formula Force pedals
My FS whereabouts:
low and slow, small single engine prop GA, Italy airfields.
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Apr 26
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Hi FridayChild,
If you want great textures and you don't mind payware I would go for Flight One's GroundEnviroment. I use it and it is the greatest. For freeware you could consider Bill Lyons' Silverwing. As long as you keep a low altitude it's great. Get too high and you see a very annoying ground texture that repeats itself.
Crash
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Apr 26
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If you are looking for absolute incredible ground, mountain, etc,... textures for the entire world,
you have to get
GROUND ENVIROMENT!!!
Flight1!
It will change your entire flying experience worldwide!!
Oh, if you want to get really crazy, add Ultimate Terrain to it and you are in for a real nice ride!!!
Now I think I need to move this to the Payware Forum!
Dave
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Apr 26
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The GroundEnvironment screenies look exactly how I want my sim to look like!
Do you think my system can handle this package? (My system specs are in my signature).
Also and again: to install GE, do you suggest I reset my FS2004 to default (i.e. uninstall, reinstall, apply GE)?
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My system specifications:
FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2004 - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU - 3 GB PC-3200 DDR400 dual channel RAM - 500 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm SATA-II hard disk - Sapphire Radeon HD 5750 1 GB PCI-E graphic card - Logitech Wingman Force 3D joystick + Logitech Formula Force pedals
My FS whereabouts:
low and slow, small single engine prop GA, Italy airfields.
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Apr 26
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If you are looking for absolute incredible ground, mountain, etc,... textures for the entire world,
you have to get
GROUND ENVIROMENT!!!
Flight1!
It will change your entire flying experience worldwide!!
Oh, if you want to get really crazy, add Ultimate Terrain to it and you are in for a real nice ride!!!
Now I think I need to move this to the Payware Forum!
Dave
Does it do more than one frame per week!!!!! And, how is it from high altitude?
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Apr 26
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Sir Crashalot
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I experienced no drop in FPS what so ever. Even from high altitudes it still looks great. I think your system will have no problem with it, FridayChild. I'm on a medium system myself and it works fantastic.
Crash
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Apr 26
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It has zero impact on frames!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL THEY ARE ARE DETAILED NEW TEXTURES FOR THE GROUND!!
sORRY, CAPS LOCK..
I would definitely un install the Blue Sphere as what GE does is back up your default FS texture files and then overwrites them with the GE Textures..
Like I said fro reading their forums,..
frame rates are not effected as they are basically replacement textures but much more detailed.
They look good from high up but you can really see what they look like at lower elevation....
Dave
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Apr 26
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I would also highly recommend FSGenesis mesh..
For 100 bucks you can have the entire world in its correct landscape and all the updates for 3 years.
For the best FS look,
1.
Install FSGenesis mesh and landclass
2.
Install Ultimate Terrain (all of them) NOTE THE SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS FOR FSGENESIS USERS
3.
Ground Environment w/Korbygen update
4.
Flight Environment (I only use FE clouds and extended contrails)
5.
Set up FSUIPC for enhanced weather
If you have all that installed and have a good video adapter, edit the following into your FS9.cfg file:
[TERRAIN]
TERRAIN_ERROR_FACTOR=100.000000
TERRAIN_MIN_DEM_AREA=10.000000
TERRAIN_MAX_DEM_AREA=100.000000
TERRAIN_MAX_VERTEX_LEVEL=21
TERRAIN_TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=8
TERRAIN_AUTOGEN_DENSITY=5
TERRAIN_USE_GRADIENT_MAP=1
TERRAIN_EXTENDED_TEXTURES=1
TERRAIN_DEFAULT_RADIUS=9.5
TERRAIN_EXTENDED_RADIUS=9.5
TERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELS=4
That will allow you to see everything but you must have all of the complete FSGenesis mesh (LOD 4 through LOD 12) installed and a good video card to see it all.
Defragment the hard drive and away you go.
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Apr 26
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"Don't ask me why, it must be the stick"
Hey, ya gotta like a fella who answers his own questions
It never ceases to amaze me
how many simflyers will continue to use a defective joystick and then waste their time (and others) trashing perfectly good aricraft flight models (in many case FREE ones).
If thousands of other simflyers
are using a particular aircraft model and recommending it to others, I submit that if they appear to be
" . . . shifting on their axes; it's almost impossible to keep them leveled"
it's time to score for a new ($29) joystick ???
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Apr 26
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wji, what are you talking about
Nick, what exactly does the Ground Environment w/Korbygen textures do?
Dave
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Apr 26
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Nick, what exactly does the Ground Environment w/Korbygen textures do?
Dave, I do believe Korbygen comes as standalone freeware, but they replace the autogen textures, houses etc. They do look really nice, but for myself I experienced low frames with them. Also they come with Vista Oz.
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Apr 26
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"Don't ask me why, it must be the stick"
Hey, ya gotta like a fella who answers his own questions
It never ceases to amaze me
how many simflyers will continue to use a defective joystick and then waste their time (and others) trashing perfectly good aricraft flight models (in many case FREE ones).
If thousands of other simflyers
are using a particular aircraft model and recommending it to others, I submit that if they appear to be
" . . . shifting on their axes; it's almost impossible to keep them leveled"
it's time to score for a new ($29) joystick ???
As a matter of fact, though, my joystick works very well with some freeware a/c, and very bad with others.
So the problem is slightly more complicated than it may seem. If the stick is crap, it should perform always like crap. Anyway, as you can see, I self diagnosed my problem and eventually I will buy a new stick.
As for the remarks, I take it they were not directed at me. 8)
Back to the topic: I was sure I did a backup of my FS9 install BEFORE installing Blue Sphere; as it turns out, I didn't, or if I did I lost it.
Can I restore the original textures from the FS CD, and if so, what folders must be reverted to default? I assume "Texture" in the main folder and "World\Texture" inside the "Scenery" folder?
Founder of A.A.A.A.A.A.A. (Aircraft Amateurs' Association Against Absurd Aviation Acronyms)
My system specifications:
FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2004 - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU - 3 GB PC-3200 DDR400 dual channel RAM - 500 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm SATA-II hard disk - Sapphire Radeon HD 5750 1 GB PCI-E graphic card - Logitech Wingman Force 3D joystick + Logitech Formula Force pedals
My FS whereabouts:
low and slow, small single engine prop GA, Italy airfields.
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Apr 26
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Nick N
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wji, what are you talking about
Nick, what exactly does the Ground Environment w/Korbygen textures do?
Dave
GE has a Koorbygen update... With Koorbygen all the autogen buildings and houses are MUCH better detailed. The freeware version of Koorbygen is 1024x1024 textures and are known for giving a bit of a frame hit. The version for GE is 512x512 and are much more frame friendly. Get the GE update with Koorbygen here:
http://environments.flight1.net/downloads.htm
You must make sure the version you GE you are using is 1.6... if not, install the 1.6 update from that page then install the 1.6 version of Koorbygen:
http://environments.flight1.net/Koorbygen/GE_Koorbygen_install.zip
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Apr 26
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Nick N
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As a matter of fact, though, my joystick works very well with some freeware a/c, and very bad with others.
So the problem is slightly more complicated than it may seem. If the stick is crap, it should perform always like crap. Anyway, as you can see, I self diagnosed my problem and eventually I will buy a new stick.
As for the remarks, I take it they were not directed at me. 8)
Back to the topic: I was sure I did a backup of my FS9 install BEFORE installing Blue Sphere; as it turns out, I didn't, or if I did I lost it.
Can I restore the original textures from the FS CD, and if so, what folders must be reverted to default? I assume "Texture" in the main folder and "World\Texture" inside the "Scenery" folder?
As I recall, the majority of BlueSphere will be in Scenery\World\Texture but it is possible BlueShere replaced a few textures in the main \Texture folder such as trees. I am not an expert on BlueSphere so that is a guess based on knowing where the main ground textures are.
In any case, I think Ground Environment will overwrite them all anyway. If you want to be 100% sure, you could simply restore your backup texture folders before running GE.
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Apr 26
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I'd also appreciate, since I'm prepared to spare some bucks, the suggestion of a good payware GA plane with these features:
- slightly faster and longer running than the Cessna 172
- easy to handle, with a predictable flight model
- highly detailed and realistic
I'm considering Carenado's Piper Cherokee 180, what do you think?
For
real
bush flying
Aerosoft Beaver (payware) -Bush flying classic.
Aviat A1 Husky (freeware)
DHC 2 Turbo Beaver III (Freeware) -Much improved performance. Not as traditional as the old radial powered Beaver.
DHC 3 Otter (freeware)
Aerosoft Piper Super Cub (Payware)
Cessna 195 (freeware)
Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
For more aircraft and sceneries {Shameless plug} Check this site out
http://bfu.avsim.net/
{/Shameless plug}
You might also want to check out Misty Fjords scenery if you like the Alaska area for flying. It adds lots more than just scenery to fly in.
http://www.fsaddon.com/products_misty.html
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Apr 26
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The DC-3 always works in the bush if you have a longer strip.
I would STRONGLY suggest the Long Island Classics Bellanca Scout, great plane and great in the bush.
Still waiting for my 206
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From the Fligh1 web site:
"Note: The screenshots previewed on this site show the new Ground Environment textures. They were taken along side other non-texture add-ons that were installed, including enhanced terrain mesh, as well as Ultimate Terrain (enhancing the landclass as well as other visual features). Flight Environment was used for the sky and clouds.
So, the important thing to note is that Ground Environment works seamlessly with many add-ons you have. So not only is Flight Simulator enhanced, but also many of your other Flight Simulator add-on products."
They boast that the fact of having taken screenshots of their product "alongside" other add-ons is a plus, because it proves that their product is very compatible with other add-ons.
To me, instead, this is like blowing smoke in potential customers' eyes. I want to see the effect that this product, AND THIS PRODUCT ALONE, will have on the default FS 2004. I'm not prepared to spare money on a full range of add-ons; for now I just want to see how my ground textures can be improved.
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My system specifications:
FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2004 - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU - 3 GB PC-3200 DDR400 dual channel RAM - 500 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm SATA-II hard disk - Sapphire Radeon HD 5750 1 GB PCI-E graphic card - Logitech Wingman Force 3D joystick + Logitech Formula Force pedals
My FS whereabouts:
low and slow, small single engine prop GA, Italy airfields.
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Apr 27
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Friday,
Of course they would say that as people who know nothing about add ons might think that by purchasing Ground Environment that the sky, etc.. is enhanced.
Have you ever heard the word, "disclaimer"?
Look at the shot of the ground,
That is why it is called GROUND ENVIRONMENT!
All I have to say is that if you are looking for real nice ground textures, Ground Environment is the way to go.
Dave
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Dave, you cant bypass the fact that Flight1 is sugar coating their screenshots.
I'm interested in seeing what GE does to the default SIM, not with a dozens of other meshes or landclass.
You know, simple before and after pictures.
I understand Friday's frustrations because when you buy GE with the intention to have a sim similar to their screenshots, you will be disappointed.
It's not too hard (it should be a given right) to see what GE ALONE does for your simulator.
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Apr 27
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Fly2e, my answer is in your mailbox.
I just hope you're the only one who thinks he's wasted his breath. I've already thanked everyone for the suggestions, and I probably will purchase GE anyway (plus one of those planes).
My criticism about the way GE is presented on the web site can't possibly be mistaken for a critic against the people who suggested me the product. Or at least I thougt so...
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FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2004 - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU - 3 GB PC-3200 DDR400 dual channel RAM - 500 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm SATA-II hard disk - Sapphire Radeon HD 5750 1 GB PCI-E graphic card - Logitech Wingman Force 3D joystick + Logitech Formula Force pedals
My FS whereabouts:
low and slow, small single engine prop GA, Italy airfields.
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Below is a shot with strictly Ground Enviroment.
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Wow, those roads look nice too.
Does it come with accurate road placement?
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Wow, those roads look nice too.
Does it come with accurate road placement?
I think the roads are a different package. Ultimate Terrain if I am not mistaken. Very accurate in my opinion. I use GE + UT + FE + FSGenesis mesh =
Just my two cents.
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Below is a shot with strictly Ground Enviroment.
[img]
May I ask if this image also shows UT?
If so is that also a frame rate hit? and Is it possible for someone to post a pic just with GE
It's a great pic anyway. I would like something that looks good from high altitude and close to the ground (even the big jets have to land sometimes!!!!)
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I'm sure that "with strictly Ground Environment" means there is absolutely no add on other than GE in that pic...
The image was posted because I remarked that the screenies featured in the flight1 web site to showcase GE also feature other add-ons, making it difficult to evaluate GE.
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My system specifications:
FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2004 - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU - 3 GB PC-3200 DDR400 dual channel RAM - 500 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm SATA-II hard disk - Sapphire Radeon HD 5750 1 GB PCI-E graphic card - Logitech Wingman Force 3D joystick + Logitech Formula Force pedals
My FS whereabouts:
low and slow, small single engine prop GA, Italy airfields.
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Apr 28
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I have installed GE on a fresh install of FS9 and immediatly there was major improvement. (sorry no screenie)
Granted with GE you should have a good terrain mesh such as FSGlobal. But even with just a default setup it is great.
Personally I run GE/FE/FSGlobal/UT USA&Canada/Alaska, these combined transform the sim into a totally new experiance. And many times I find myself pausing the flight to jump outside and look at the world in a new light
As for Flight1 site blowing smoke i don't see how, they specifically state that the screenshots are taken with other enhnacements, if this wasnt stated then you have made a point
The product does exactly what it states it does and that is improves the Ground Enviroment, add-ons installed or not.
If you were to buy it which I recomend I would also sugggest terrain mesh of good quality (FSGlobal is the best for me) without it you will have a greatly improved flat world
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As for Flight1 site blowing smoke i don't see how, they specifically state that the screenshots are taken with other enhnacements, if this wasnt stated then you have made a point
It's true, they state that specifically, and this means they are honest. But by not presenting the effect that their product alone produces on a default FS2004 install, they are not giving potential customers the chance to correctly evaluate the purchase.
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You know maybe you should write them and tell them that, couldn't hurt. You make a valid point.
I understand what your saying but I would think that since a huge majority of simmers already have such enhancements installed they figure why bother, really who uses default stuff anyway? LOL!
I think the best thing they could do is offer a limited trial, or try before you buy like some people do. This would allow one to check it out and see if it works on thier system.
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I just got GE last week but am not sure if it works. If I post a shot here would any of you that have it know the difference? It probly is working though. Flying into Amsterdam last night the ground looked fantastic! I am thinking about purchasing UT USA/Canada (Alaska? part of that package? Need to look again) Is it downloadable too like GE was? I couldn't tell bt the site here at work. Was in a hurry. I'll be doing a fresh install (again!) This weekend so that all the terrrain shows up as it should. Between Silver Wings, Reality pack,TreeGen 1.0,GE, I can't tell what is and what ain't anymore
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