Simviation Forum - What weight is "heavy"?

Apr 20^th, 2006 at 5:50pm

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I was wondering if there is an official weight at which an aircraft has 'heavy' appended to the calsign. I hear some my PAI 757s being called heavy and not others, so I figure there's a cutoff point somehwere around 200,000 lbs. Or maybe that's just totally random.

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Reply #1 - Apr 20^th, 2006 at 6:14pm

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The 757 is not a Heavy per weight definition, but is refered to as one, because of the severe wake turbulence it creates.

Heavy= exceed 300.000lbs MTOW I believe (us Europeans dont use pounds! Grin

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And btw, we dont use the term "heavy" when we communicate with ATC in Europe either 8)

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Reply #2 - Apr 20^th, 2006 at 6:37pm

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Ok, maximum takeoff on the 752 is around 250000 lbs, so I guess it wouldn't be a heavy by definition. But to clarify, ALL 757s are referred as heavy?

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(us Europeans dont use pounds! Grin

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Yes, you use that silly illogical metric system. When will you Europeans wake up and Americanize like the rest of the world has so willingly done!

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Reply #3 - Apr 20^th, 2006 at 7:04pm

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we dnt americanize cos we rock

also america is behind, we had imperial mesurments ages ago.... heck we invented them, u need to upgrade Tongue

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Reply #4 - Apr 20^th, 2006 at 8:57pm

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also america is behind, we had imperial mesurments ages ago.... heck we invented them, u need to upgrade Tongue

I see you're not very familiar with America... you see, there is no such thing as something better than American. Impossible. The world would undo itself! It's our way or... nonexistence.

Make your choice Europe! Grin

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Reply #5 - Apr 20^th, 2006 at 11:41pm

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Here, Check this out. It may answer your question.

http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk/acrtypes.htm

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Reply #6 - Apr 21^st, 2006 at 12:02am

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Here, Check this out. It may answer your question.

Thankyou very much Willit, it appears as though those overpowered 752 engines do create a wake large enough to be classified as heavy. Immensely helpful, thanksyou both Wink

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Reply #7 - Apr 21^st, 2006 at 6:36am

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now if we americans switched to metrics it would be a sign of weakness! Roll Eyes

Now do we really want to send out a message like that!?

also if we did id have to learn metrics, and thats just silly.

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Reply #8 - Apr 21^st, 2006 at 8:03am

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Thankyou very much Willit, it appears as though those overpowered 752 engines do create a wake large enough to be classified as heavy. Immensely helpful, thanksyou both Wink

No, it's the wing design actually... Tongue

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Reply #9 - Apr 21^st, 2006 at 8:35am

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Metric system? Bah! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I like it!

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Reply #10 - Apr 21^st, 2006 at 11:30am

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THen again, go to Puerto Rico, where you never really know where you are, nor what your gas consumption is ... speed signs are in miles per hour, distance markers in kilometers; gasoline is sold by the liter.

The question:

Q: "How far is it to San Juan from Caguas?"
A: "About 40 minutes with no traffic."

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