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Apr 18^th, 2006 at 9:46pm

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wut do you think they should add to the planes? personally, they should make concordes just because i helped design it.

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Reply #1 - Apr 19^th, 2006 at 9:48am

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You helped design the Concorde... Shocked

I dunno...the Concorde was there in FS2000...I would really love to see some Airbus aircraft...A330...A340...I don't like to see Boeing's all the time...and AFAIK...the A321 is being modelled in FSX....

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Reply #2 - Apr 19^th, 2006 at 12:26pm

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You seem like a nice honest chap. Welcome to the forums. Grin

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Reply #3 - Apr 19^th, 2006 at 8:45pm

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they should make concordes just because i helped design it.

LOL!!

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Seriously, that's the worst lie I've ever heard, come on!!

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Reply #4 - Apr 20^th, 2006 at 12:13am

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that is soo cool that u helped design the concorde is it true that russian spies stole documents of the Concorde to make the TU-144?

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Reply #5 - Apr 20^th, 2006 at 7:47am

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they should make concordes just because i helped design it.

and why are you so special Grin

so now that we know you helped design it you gotta tell us all about it but post down in the general topic area

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Reply #6 - Apr 20^th, 2006 at 11:15am

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You know, I always found something curious about the FS Concorde.

The Concorde gauges were still included in FS-2002/2004 even though the plane wasn't, so they could be used in other panels.

But if you look at the HSI, it's got a NAV-GPS switch. There was no GPS in FS-2000. And one time I installed the Concorde off the FS-2000 CDs into 2004, and when I loaded it up, the panel was totally different from how it looked in FS-2000.

It's almost like they had intended to keep the Concorde, and were upgrading it for use in newer versions when it got the axe real suddenly.

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Reply #7 - Apr 20^th, 2006 at 10:55pm

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Might be incorperated into FSX, but yah now the concorde is rarely flown and is grounded so I dont know what the outcome will be, but their is always FS designers that can put one together.. Grin

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Reply #8 - Apr 21^st, 2006 at 2:47am

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Personally I prefer the Concord Grin

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Reply #9 - Apr 21^st, 2006 at 3:35am

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Might be incorperated into FSX, but yah now the concorde is rarely flown and is grounded

Replace rarely with never...

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Reply #10 - Apr 21^st, 2006 at 9:15am

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I would like to see somthing like a concept section with jets with huge engines or that go super fast with vtol capabilites somthig to screw around with. They have games with concept cars why not jets. fs 9 was about the first century. Fsx is about the next so why not some concept aircraft.

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Reply #11 - Apr 21^st, 2006 at 2:14pm

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I would like to see somthing like a concept section with jets with huge engines or that go super fast with vtol capabilites somthig to screw around with. They have games with concept cars why not jets. fs 9 was about the first century. Fsx is about the next so why not some concept aircraft.

From what ive heard nobodys said anything about fsx being the next century, has anyone else ???

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Reply #12 - Apr 24^th, 2006 at 9:19am

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i dont know i herd it somewhere. To me it would make sense not to be the next century after the first. At the same time it would make no sense not to have a theam. it would be neat aneway

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Reply #13 - Apr 24^th, 2006 at 7:46pm

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The MS folk said at one point that they wouldn't do concept aircraft. But there's lots of third party designers who do them, I for one only do concept aircraft.

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Reply #14 - Apr 25^th, 2006 at 10:58am

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im already aware that i can get alot of ac from right here at simv as we all are. i just would like to see some of a decent quality thats all. but dont get me wrong i love flying around in my 737 or cesnnas its just sometimes i like to do a little adventure flying and thats evn more fun with aircraft that do cool stuf.

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Reply #15 - Apr 25^th, 2006 at 3:48pm

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i've actually shaked hands with the chief designer

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Reply #16 - Apr 26^th, 2006 at 9:42am

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if anythig it should be the aircraft thet get the biggest boost in looks and every thig else because thats what fs is all about. they dont call it tree simulator or cloud simulatorx. just a thought/statement.

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Reply #17 - Apr 27^th, 2006 at 4:14pm

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Reply #18 - Apr 28^th, 2006 at 2:56pm

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when is that coming out ive got to get me that sim lololololol Grin

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Reply #19 - Apr 28^th, 2006 at 8:20pm

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Oi whats all this about Concordes? ??? I really think that the Concorde is a great plane, made BEFORE its time; very advanced. It's retired, so I don't know about putting it in there... Good point though..... What I wanna see are some up-to-date Light single and twin engine aircraft like the Cessna's and the Beechcrafts.
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Reply #20 - Apr 29^th, 2006 at 3:39am

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Oi whats all this about Concordes? ??? I really think that the Concorde is a great plane, made BEFORE its time; very advanced. It's retired, so I don't know about putting it in there... Good point though..... What I wanna see are some up-to-date Light single and twin engine aircraft like the Cessna's and the Beechcrafts.
Yes, I am a Cessna JUNKIE!!!! LOVE 'em!!!!!!

What has retirement of an aircraft got to do with whether it is in a sim or not??

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Reply #21 - Apr 29^th, 2006 at 6:26am

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Get yourself a ride in a Socata TB9 or TB10.

As for Concorde it's sad that it wasn't included with FS9. After all it is called 'A Century of Flight!!'
I wonder how much the French government paid M$ to take it out!!!!!!
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Reply #22 - Apr 29^th, 2006 at 8:27pm

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Hmmmm......... good question. What DOES the retirement of an aircraft have to do with it? I have no idea really, but, what he said about how much france paid Microsoft to take it out, most people might not want it in there. Just raising a point...

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Reply #23 - Apr 30^th, 2006 at 6:48am

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Why should the French government or anyone pay microsoft to keep it out of the sim?

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Reply #24 - Apr 30^th, 2006 at 11:37pm

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Why should the French government or anyone pay microsoft to keep it out of the sim?

I don't see the point. Us addon developers will always put it in anyways. Undecided

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Reply #25 - May 1^st, 2006 at 11:05am

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Oi whats all this about Concordes? ??? I really think that the Concorde is a great plane, made BEFORE its time; very advanced. It's retired, so I don't know about putting it in there... Good point though..... What I wanna see are some up-to-date Light single and twin engine aircraft like the Cessna's and the Beechcrafts.
Yes, I am a Cessna JUNKIE!!!! LOVE 'em!!!!!!

I dunno if that is a legitimate point, as I am pretty sure that the Wright Flyer, Vimy, and Comet are well past their prime Grin

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Reply #26 - May 11^th, 2006 at 11:21am

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If you guys want to sustain yourself with these Concorde hopes, go to www.flight1.com and search for Concorde.
Get yourself a ride in a Socata TB9 or TB10.
Whats so good about them? High or low wing? single or twin engine? Just curious...
I would love to see some vintage WWII and WWI planes maybe, like the Spad. And WWII like the P-51D or the P-38J lightning

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Reply #27 - May 11^th, 2006 at 11:31am

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I would love to see some vintage WWII and WWI planes maybe, like the Spad. And WWII like the P-51D or the P-38J lightning

that wont happen because its not a combat flight simulator. its a comercial/general flight simulator.

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Reply #28 - May 11^th, 2006 at 12:01pm

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well the vought corsiars in there and so was the sopwith camel so I can see there been some military aircraft in fsx

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Reply #29 - May 11^th, 2006 at 1:20pm

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Those were more directed toward vintage, not military I believe. Yes I understand they were indeed military planes, but that is most likely not reason for them to continue with newer military planes.

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Reply #30 - May 11^th, 2006 at 1:33pm

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The FS2002 Vought Corsair was straight out of CFS2 & I suspect was added as a convenient extra. The Sopwith Camel was in FS98, FS2000 & FS2002 but neither were included with FS9.

As for Concorde, the terrible Paris accident happened some time before FS2002 was released. I suspect that Microsoft no longer wanted to be associated with it. Also, if I remember correctly, the release of FS2002 was delayed by the events of 9/11.

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Reply #31 - May 11^th, 2006 at 4:37pm

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The FS2002 Vought Corsair was straight out of CFS2 & I suspect was added as a convenient extra. The Sopwith Camel was in FS98, FS2000 & FS2002 but neither were included with FS9.

As for Concorde, the terrible Paris accident happened some time before FS2002 was released. I suspect that Microsoft no longer wanted to be associated with it. Also, if I remember correctly, the release of FS2002 was delayed by the events of 9/11.

I read an article on CNN's website that one reporter was testing FS2000 to see how it looked after hearing that the terrorists used it for their training. The guy was awed by its realism and accuracy. After that, M$ decided to rearrange the scenery in FS2002.

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Reply #32 - May 12^th, 2006 at 6:55am

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I read an article on CNN's website that one reporter was testing FS2000 to see how it looked after hearing that the terrorists used it for their training. The guy was awed by its realism and accuracy. After that, M$ decided to rearrange the scenery in FS2002.

One suposes that in order to prevent terroists you would have to reprint all the maps as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #33 - May 17^th, 2006 at 12:12pm

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That terrorist stuff is pure garbage . . .

Saying that someone could learn to fly, operate and crash an aircraft into a building (not really that hard, anyway) just from using FS is like saying someone could learn to do drive-by shootings by playing Grand Theft Auto. There's just no comparison to the real act of doing something so disgusting and vile.

As to this thread's ORIGINAL idea, I've been looking around at what's new aircraft-wise for FSX. I noticed that they have several new aircraft already shown: Maule, Beaver and Grumman Goose. I was looking at images of the Goose (trying to get a front-end view) and noticed that in the following two shots, there are two versions of the aircraft: one with outboard floats and one without.

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Does this point to an increase in multi-model stuff? In FS9, the only aircraft that have more than one model are the Cessna 208 and the Lockheed Vega. I'm fairly sure they won't include the Lockheed Vega in the new release, so that leaves the Cessna. Could it be they are branching out, making more models for the stock aircraft?

I realize that FS is more of a modder's paradise than anything else, but I do think it would be a good idea if the quality of what we buy could be somewhere close to the quality of what's available out there.

For instance, how many of us would simply discard (or render unusable) the stock Goose if it were less visually enticing than one of the others available online? I know for a fact that if it doesn't match up, I'm simply going to delete it and replace it with the Lynn and Bill Lyons version. No thought needed.

So where does that leave the stock aircraft? After all, there are replacements for nearly every single aircraft in FS9, and I KNOW that there are replacements, all freeware, for all the currently known new stock aircraft of FSX.

So are all of the designers over there just getting shafted because they aren't using their talents to the full, or is this the limit of their abilities? If it is, by all means, go hire Lynn and Bill! They have the talent and the want to do this stuff, and they're doing it for FREE right now! They're stomping MS into the dust with their versions of aircraft, and most of it they aren't even getting paid for.

Anyway, that was my rant for the day. I'm gonna go replace the car oil now. Wink

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Reply #34 - Jun 15^th, 2006 at 2:38pm

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That terrorist stuff is pure garbage . . .

Saying that someone could learn to fly, operate and crash an aircraft into a building (not really that hard, anyway) just from using FS is like saying someone could learn to do drive-by shootings by playing Grand Theft Auto. There's just no comparison to the real act of doing something so disgusting and vile.

yeh, it was a tragic event. but i saw this program where this super nerd flew a real plane from the knowledge of a sim

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Reply #35 - Jun 17^th, 2006 at 2:02am

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i the sim would give somone a step up when going into the real world because its not compleatly un familiar

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