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Mar 22^nd, 2006 at 7:12am

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Well the EU has banned 93 airlines as unsafe. The list hasn't been published yet! I know N. Korean airlines and a number of African ones are on the list... I wonder who else? Grin

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Reply #1 - Mar 22^nd, 2006 at 8:46am

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I read something about this the other day ....... It's been well trumpeted.

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Reply #2 - Mar 22^nd, 2006 at 8:55am

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You're not well informed Mark! Grin

The list:

http://europa.eu.int/comm/transport/air/safety/doc/flywell/2006_03_22_flywell_li...

expect lots of airlines from Congo, no big surprises here.

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Reply #3 - Mar 22^nd, 2006 at 9:53am

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Sorry Kris I sometimes forget the Hungarian news services are so far behind the rest of the world you can only just about spot them using the Hubble telescope Roll Eyes

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Reply #4 - Mar 22^nd, 2006 at 11:05am

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No real suprises there then

but why so many from the Congo and also Phuket Air? Terrorism links maybe?

Does this mean these airlines are prohibited in EU airspace or just to schedule flights into and out of EU?

Where's the challenge in landing with wheels?

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Reply #5 - Mar 22^nd, 2006 at 11:30am

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Does this mean these airlines are prohibited in EU airspace or just to schedule flights into and out of EU?

Both I think ......... It's all down to safety issues rather than terrorism. You can expect more to be added as aircraft are inspected at EU airports.

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Reply #6 - Mar 22^nd, 2006 at 2:45pm

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Phuket air flies 30 year old ex-klm 747-200SUD

Ones that might get into problems (or get a waiver)
Ariana... probably the A300s not the new fleet (A310 and upcoming B738W and 757)
Air Universal... if the UN or NATO wants a cheap flight they GET a cheap flight. No matter what the EU says.

The rest is antonov/ilyushin/old boeing operators from africa.

Onur Hava Yollari is already in fleet renewal process, and putting them on the list wouldnt have made friends up there

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Reply #7 - Mar 23^rd, 2006 at 9:13pm

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I've read in the paper that airlines flying old aircraft were banned. If an airline follows safety rules and maintains aircraft properly but operates old 727 or 732 are they banned?

I like this anet cockpit picture of one of the airlines that was banned - 3 different throttle settings yet all the engine gauges show the same readings.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1020689/L/

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Reply #8 - Mar 24^th, 2006 at 6:59am

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It's a strange world out there. African International is on the list, but only their Swaziland registered plane. The ones registered in South-Africa are safe, though it's the same compagny... strange...

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Reply #9 - Mar 24^th, 2006 at 9:26am

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It's a strange world out there. African International is on the list, but only their Swaziland registered plane. The ones registered in South-Africa are safe, though it's the same compagny... strange...

Maybe in South Africa they have to follow safety regulations.

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Reply #10 - Mar 24^th, 2006 at 9:33am

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Omag, I believe to stay off this list your aircraft must be registered with one of the major flight safety boards in their home country and as such must be certified safe to fly. CAA, FAA and so on.

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Reply #11 - Mar 25^th, 2006 at 7:17am

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Ariana only got on the list because the CAA can't guarantee the maitnance on any YA regged planes. So they got themselves a leased A310 instead

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Reply #12 - Mar 25^th, 2006 at 7:43am

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Phuket air flies 30 year old ex-klm 747-200SUD

Would I fly with Phuket Air...?

Phukin, 'ell NO!... Shocked

...!

LOL...!

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Reply #13 - Mar 25^th, 2006 at 8:44am

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I've read in the paper that airlines flying old aircraft were banned. If an airline follows safety rules and maintains aircraft properly but operates old 727 or 732 are they banned?

No, however they are generally not compliant with modern day noise regulations, hence you tend not to see them...

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Reply #14 - Mar 25^th, 2006 at 3:46pm

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Would I fly with Phuket Air...?

Phukin, 'ell NO!... Shocked

...!

LOL...!

Paul...special dispensation, I'm allowed to swear... Wink

...

..!

(a) "Where do you live?"
(b) "Phuket"
(a) "Why, have you forgotten?"

Perhaps you didn't know but they use 'domestic seating' on it... 300+ people in a beaten-up plane for 10+ hour trips

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