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Mar 15^th, 2006 at 11:01am

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I just bought the full version of Photoshop CS2...I was sick of that 30 day trial...love it...So many new features...really nice I think...

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Reply #1 - Mar 15^th, 2006 at 2:03pm

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Fantastic program 8)

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Reply #2 - Mar 15^th, 2006 at 2:07pm

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Fantastic program 8)

Yeah! So many more options than CS...I can now edit my FS pics with some good results... 8) Shocked

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Reply #3 - Mar 15^th, 2006 at 3:31pm

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That's 600 bucks right? Roll Eyes

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Reply #4 - Mar 15^th, 2006 at 3:51pm

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That's 600 bucks right? Roll Eyes

$650...I don't care...it's something that I'll always keep...plus my mom paid for it...

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Reply #5 - Mar 15^th, 2006 at 4:54pm

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Why not just get a hardware upgrade with that? ??? (I would...) Roll Eyes

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Reply #6 - Mar 15^th, 2006 at 5:55pm

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...plus my mom paid for it...

And that is exactly why you don't care. Wink

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Reply #7 - Mar 15^th, 2006 at 11:17pm

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Yay I'm not the only one with CS2. However I payed $0.99 for the CD-R to rip a copy from my mum's office.

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Reply #8 - Mar 16^th, 2006 at 3:15am

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Well yall enjoy Photoshop, I'll enjoy Fireworks, not gonna waste time on Photoshop, havn't touched it sense advanced computer graphics, and I think my certifaction for Photoshop 7 needs to be upgraded, but I have my Macromedia MX 8 certifaction Cheesy

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Reply #9 - Mar 16^th, 2006 at 5:31am

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Yay I'm not the only one with CS2. However I payed $0.99 for the CD-R to rip a copy from my mum's office.

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And that my friend, means you're a pirate!

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Reply #10 - Mar 16^th, 2006 at 1:39pm

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And that my friend, means you're a pirate!

arr whats wrong with a pirate?

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Reply #11 - Mar 16^th, 2006 at 3:29pm

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arr whats wrong with a pirate?

You are really dumb aren't you?

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Reply #12 - Mar 16^th, 2006 at 6:36pm

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No, Its a legit copy, with a legit SN, I just didnt pay for a cent, Me mummy's company did Wink

Nothing illeagle about it.

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Reply #13 - Mar 16^th, 2006 at 8:37pm

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You are really dumb aren't you?

Actully I belive that software is knowlege and should be free. I support open source, just not linux, they make the thing over complicated. I see nothing wrong with downloading software as it should be appereant with the fact I have a copy of Vista on my computer. I pay for games that I play online because I need that stupid key and for macromedia because alot of my time not at work is spend designing web graphics (not on a mac thank god)

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Reply #14 - Mar 16^th, 2006 at 9:10pm

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I wouldn't mind a new Cadillac Escalade. Other peoples have them, why should I pay for mine? Where can I download it?

Poor analogy, I know. But software is intellectual property, not commonly available knowledge. Companies pay a lot of money to a lot of people to develop and produce their product. They are entitled to their profit; you are not entitled to steal it. There can be no equivocation on that point.

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Reply #15 - Mar 16^th, 2006 at 9:22pm

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Before this turns into a flame war, lets all remind ourselves of Sim V's standing on pirating and leave it at that.

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Reply #16 - Mar 16^th, 2006 at 9:32pm

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Words which effectively end this debate!

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Reply #17 - Mar 17^th, 2006 at 11:25am

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if ya ask me I think nothing is wrong with Piracy when the company makes tons more money then they spent on the project to begin with. I feel they shouldn't care if some people found ways to copy their product AFTER they made their profit.

Piracy would upset me if I spent my money to design a product and I didn't make the money I invested in the project and generated some profit from it.

Example. You have a producer that spends 14 million to create a movie.

The first week of realease the movie grossed 23 million bucks at the box office. The producer should be pleased that he made and extra ton of Millions dollars off his project and shouldn't give a damn if someone is making about $2,000 a week selling copies of his movie at $10 or $5 bucks each. That is chump change compared to what the producer is actually making. Hell by the time the movie is out of theatres an average of (3 weeks) the movie will have made approx. 40 million dollars and he only spent 14 million to begin with.

Corporate greed, if you look at who buys boot leg pirated videos. It is people who can't afford to waste money on dvd or go to the movies. so I think it is a fair deal to pirate. I know I wouldn't care about piracy if I made what I put into the project and made a descent profit off it.

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Reply #18 - Mar 17^th, 2006 at 9:01pm

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Well, that's just sad. I can see the concept of capitalism is slowly dying.

I had started a rather good counter-arguement, but then thought, why bother? I learned a long time ago it's impossible to challenge a pirate on their justifications for doing so.

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Reply #19 - Mar 17^th, 2006 at 9:49pm

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I Like Flight Simulation!

What are you gonna do?

I think I'll make a really crappy movie - pretty easy since I have no movie making skills - and wait for it to lose money.

Then I'll ask A/SGT to send me money so I can make up my loss and break even. If he wants to be my partner if my movie made money I'm sure he will have no problem being my partner if my movie lost money.

He will also have to contribute money to all other movie makers who have lost money.

Since that isn't practical we'll just let our national governments redistribute the wealth so that no one makes more than his fair share and no one loses more than his fair share. Even though I don't know anything about movie making and the result was pretty lame I put a lot of time and effort into it - maybe as much as Spielberg or Coppola.

Redistribution of wealth will ensure that people will be rewarded not for the popularity of their creations (how many people will pay for it) but by some other intangible measure - from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.

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Reply #20 - Mar 18^th, 2006 at 3:24am

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Sorry to interrupt...I was not suggesting that I got this product from a pirate...I got this direct from Adobe...I phoned them for activation...and I got my key from them...So no piracy here in case any of you were wondering Wink

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Reply #21 - Mar 18^th, 2006 at 10:07am

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Sorry to interrupt...I was not suggesting that I got this product from a pirate...I got this direct from Adobe...I phoned them for activation...and I got my key from them...So no piracy here in case any of you were wondering Wink

No one was suggesting that, read the posts- Candle is the pirate here.

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Reply #22 - Mar 18^th, 2006 at 5:55pm

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You should have used Linux's GIMP. It is almost just as good from all accounts as Photoshop and free. Shocked

You can do anything with it - anything photoshop does GIMP does I think.

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Reply #23 - Mar 19^th, 2006 at 9:35pm

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I took a class last year that used mostly photoshop. I loved it, and through my teacher I was able to get Photoshop 7 for around $30. And yes it is a legit disk Wink

Some of the addons for it...eh...not so much. The way I see it when it comes to software like this. Its way overpriced IMHO. $650 for a program that probably took less time to make then something like Flight Sim that you can get for 20 bucks Roll Eyes

I know programs like this take time and effort. But really is it worth $650 Roll Eyes

How often will you really use it, after using it every day for nearly a year it does get a little old after awhile.

Pirate is a whole different story. But the way I see it is that if companies want to charge big bucks for their programs then they shouldnt get mad when a few people get find a way to get a freebie. Not everyone who loves their programs can afford 650 bucks. You can litteraly get a halfway decent car for that Tongue

Its just a cheap little plastic disk (probably cost the company 2 cents) that is only needed for an install. Not really worth that kind of money to me Roll Eyes

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Reply #24 - Mar 20^th, 2006 at 5:06am

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Yes i think your right on Gimp, great program if you don't want or need the stuff of the more expensive software.

As far as pirating, how about you losers go get a job, you know a real one 40-60 hours a week. But here is the catch do it for free Wink

Or open yourself a store, selling anything you like, then when someone tells you they cant afford it but really want it give them thier stuff for free.

With your line of thinking this shouldn't bother you at all, as a matter of fact it is the right thing to do.

Why is it that if i can afford it I should pay and since you can't you should get it free???

Your one of them people that sit at home and wait for the check in the mail, the free rent and food stamps aren't you?

Makes me sick all these people thinking they are "owed" everything. People ranging from using software to living in a flood zone demanding money to live off from. All of you make me ill.

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Actully I belive that software is knowlege and should be free.

Have you gone to college? no need to answer, that is a place that you attend to attain knowledge, it isnt free.
You want free knowledge go to a library.

Bottom line is it is no different from walking into a store and putting stuff in your pocket, it is stealing plain and simple.

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Reply #25 - Mar 22^nd, 2006 at 11:25pm

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Before this turns into a flame war, lets all remind ourselves of Sim V's standing on pirating and leave it at that.

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