As stated in the title of this thread, if your going to fly on ws pilots can you please OPEN YOUR PORTS there are at least 2 people that I know off at the minute that don't appear to have their ports open (i'll pm them about it), it's not that difficult to open them.(there has even been complainents on the ws pilots forums about some people from sim v not having their ports open.)

1.go to http://www.portforward.com/
2.follow the instructions there for opening the ports on your router.
3. Allow ws pilots ports for your router and add them to the exceptions list for windows firewall (I don't have to put the ports in my exceptions but I know that for some reason most others do.
4. Join ws pilots and if its a scheduled get together e.g. italy tour, war games, sim v airshow etc If nobody joins shortly after you then you probably don't have your ports open.

How can you tell if your ports are open?

Fly with somebody else but try to get them to join the server after you, if they can join then your ports are most likely set up properly.

What ports are needed to fly on ws pilots servers?

UDP 23456 [FS9]
UDP 23457 [FS9] WSP Custom
UDP 23458 [FS9] WSP Custom
UDP 6073 [FS9]
UDP 23432 [FSNavigator]

(Apparently you also need the FSNavigator port open on your firewall even If you don't use fsnavigator )

How can I tell if somebody doesn't have their ports open and what can I do about it?

It seems to be that the person that doesn't have their ports open is usuallly the last person to join the server ( altough im not certain about this) if you think somebody doesn't have their ports open then don't name and shame them but send them a pm, asking them to open their ports.

Note: this isn't meant to be a tutorial (look at the stickys for them) but more of a request for pilots to open their ports so everybody can have fun.

You old mate Fozzer has neither a Router, or Windows XP service pack 2 Firewall installed, so I don't have any of those annoying problems... ...!

...I've never had any difficulty getting instantly and reliably connected to the WSP Server... ...!

Paul... 8)...!

Why would anyone want a troublesome "Router"......?

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LOL...!

Some of you blokes are gluttons for punishment with your fancy hardware and software add-ons.... ...LOL...!

Paul...simple little internal US Robotics 56k Modem connected directly to my telephone line....fantastically simple...LOL...!

this thread, or another one similar, should be made sticky...
so, nobody could say he didn't know...
just a sugestion

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It's a funny old do, but the above chart doesn't appear anywhere in my Windows XP Pro operating system... ...!

I suspect it may be something which is included in Service Pack 2...?
Or maybe something which is included in "Router" software...?

My only reference to a Firewall is located here....
Start > Control Panel > Network Connections > Properties > Advanced > Internet Connection Firewall > (tick/untick box)....
and it makes no difference whether I leave it open or closed when on Multiplayer, (or anything else!)... ...!

I rather think that most of the connection problems are caused due to Service Pack 2 and Routers... ...!

Cheers all... ...!

Paul... 8)...!

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Yep, it's in the router settings.

http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm

There's a list of router models on there. Choose your model of router, then Flight Simulator 2004, and it will give you instructions on how to open the ports. Remember to open ports 23457 UDP and 23458 UDP as well!

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No problem here....
I start the flights, and everyone joins after me and we complete the flights with no problems...as you've experienced... ... ...!

Remember, I don't have any of the Service Pack 2 security systems included in my version of Windows XP Pro...!!!

My operating system or hardware doesn't include any restrictions on internet connections....

My version of Windows is wide open to anyone who tries to gain entry via my back door....or my front door for that matter...effective Firewalls don't exist....LOl...!

...just get rid of your troublesome routers, that seems to be where most of your problems arise... ...!
LOL...!

Paul...The most simple, uncomplicated set-up you can imagine... ...!

(No Firewalls exist except for Norton and AVG which are switched off for Multiplayer use)...!
...and don't interfere with my sheep...that's my job... ... ...!

I was worried because I couldn't find my port settings, but since I don't have the Windows XP service pack 2, or a router, I'm in the same boat as Fozzer 8)

....But, would the Zonealarm firewall interfere, or would I need to disable it?

...So...
...It looks as though Andrew and I are the only two lucky bunnies on the Forum who don't have any problems or difficulties whatsoever in getting on line through Multiplayer...
..because...
..neither of us has Service Pack 2 installed, or a router getting in the way...
..Fantastic...  ...!
...Sorted... ...!

Paul... 8)...!
LOL... ...!

I checked everything and it shouldn't be a problem : Zonealarm & windows firewall disabled, norton worm control accepts everything from FS9.

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HeyMobius,That'sagoodstartbut!!!(alwaysa"but"...LOL),thisiswhatyoushoulddo,asforeveryoneelserunningarouter....OnyourGAMINGmaching,theonerunningFlightSim,gotoStart,Run,type'CMD'andanewwindowwillpopup.Type"ipconfig'toseeyourLOCALMACHINESIPaddress.IincludedapictureofMYIPandyourscreenshot.Youneedtochangethe'1'attheendtoYOURIPaddress(mineis192.168.1.101).Yoursmaybe100,101,102,103...etc...[img]http://sky.wspilots.com/FS2004-stuff/Pics/IPconfig.jpg

Please people open all your ports !!! Also the FSNavigator Port even if you don´t use it. I sometimes get
"not all players were able to connect" messages from FSNav even if noone else with FSNavigator is connected.

Thank You !

Well I´m not shure how FSNav is handled through the network. Flightsim itself uses peer to peer
connections. Probabely FSNav works the same way.
Usually I would think.. if noone else is connected with
FSNav my conncetion would go directly to the server.
But sometimes I´m getting this "not all player were able..."
message even if no other FSNav user is online.
(The normal flightsim connection works well)
So I assume
it might get routet through other users connections no
mater if the one actually uses it or not.
But this is just speculation wspilots actually does not say this port is optional. So I think it´s better for everyone
using this server to open this port.

By the way... Why don´t you use FSNav in the Multiplayer Session.. Paul ?? It´s quite comfortable to see other
players on your radar. I know there is a warning for low bandwith users. But it usually isn´t a problem. Just give it a try. You can also easily exchange flightplans in a session.

cheers.

If you don´t use a router, firewall or service pack 2. You don´t need to adjust anything to make it work . Just go to "options/Multiplayer Connect" (FSNavigator) Type in the
same server adress like you used to connect with flightsim
and (in case of wspilots) all 3 server should pop up.
Choose the right one and then just hit the connect button. That´s it.
Give it a try !
It really enhances a multiplayer session  !!

and.. I use a router because I´m not the only one
who wants to enjoy the advantages of internet
at the place I live

cheers

sam

Whats the port number/s for FSnavigator Sam - I don't use it myself, but i'll open the ports no problem.

Cheers,

TSC.

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The reason I use a Router is because I have 2 computers, all of which run Flight Sim applications... (soon it will be 3 computers, LOL). My main machine runs Flight Sim and ONLY Flight Sim. The other computer runs Active Sky, SquakBox, FSinn, TeamSpeak and VATSIM Voice. I use Peter Dowson's FSUIPC and WideFS to have the computers communicate with each other (an example is, ActiveSky sends weather information to the gaming machine).

By setting it up this way, It reduces the strain on the Flight Sim machine so i get better performace, and lets the other computer do all the other work needed.

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Two PC's in the house Fozzdrops & quite often they're both online at the same time.

Originally one of them was wireless, but that did my head in - so now they're both wired to the router.

Cheers,

TSC.

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Ok I'll change that
Thanks.   8)

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I did, thanks for the heads-up on that, that was the one part I had to guess on a bit, and I guess I guessed wrong ().  Never really had any problems or complaints before with that though, it seemed to work. ???

Oh well, the mysteries of the internet...........