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Feb 2nd, 2006 at 11:03pm

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I am eager to learn the ways of screenshots. I have read all I can in the screenshots how to section. I'm pretty sure that I'll know how to do the upload part however one problem still eludes me. Where in gods name are my shots going to when I hit print screen!?!??  I was reading the how to's thread and it said they would be ready on my clipboard for editing (or something to that effect). Unless i've missed something from being over tired..............I'm not seeing a clip board. I've also noticed that when I do hit print screen nothing happens. Is this normal? Then they just show up on the.....er........clipboard....ahem......... ??? I would appreciate any help in this matter as I am clearly screenshot illiterate. I love learning new things, but dislike being ignorant to what i'm sure is something obvious that i have missed. Thankyou in advance and for making me feel quite at home here since my first post yesterday. Good evening to all.
 

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Reply #1 - Feb 2nd, 2006 at 11:19pm

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When you hit print screen, that pick is saved on your "clipboard."  What you must do then is go into a photo editing program (PSP or something simular, there are free ones out there, I think MSPaint will work in a pinch) and paste the image into the program so you can save it.  

The downside to this is you can only take one screenshot at a time and then must minimize the sim (hitting the windows button will work, this way you don't actually close FS) to past it into a photo program.

There are also programs out there that allow you to simply hit print screen without having to stop the game.  This way you can take many images without returning to the desktop.  Unfortunately, I don't take many screenshots so I don't know anything about those-but again, there are free programs so I'm sure someone can point you in the right direction for those.

So, hitting print screen and then going to an image program will get you started taking screenshots until someone else can inform you on the programs that make it easier (which I'm sorry to say I know nothing about).

I hope that helps a little.   Smiley
 
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Reply #2 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 5:03am
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There are several programs designed for screenshot taking. The one I use is fsscreen. If you create a folder and put the fsscreen.exe in there every time you take shots they go to that specific folder... You can also take multiple shots without pausing the sim or stuff like that. I think fsscreen is availible here at sim Yafsscreen is although I didn't really like that one.

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Reply #3 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 8:29am

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I took one or two shots last night for GP. THen I shut my FS off and went into regular paint just to get a general idea. There were no images waiting on me. So I went up to file followed by brouse to look for this elusive ClipBoard and could not find it. I went as far as going through my entire FS9 for this thing and it's just not there. Perhapse I should get one of these printscreen programs before I get started. And apparently you have to minimize FS not turn it off to take a shot? (at least with regular Paint?). So let me drop back and punt on this one.  Whats the easiest (for now) program out there that will assist me in taking shots? One that I can take my shots, turn off FS when I'm done, go to this program,they're waiting on me when I get there, edit them to Sim V regs, then upload? My head hurts. Sorry for all the questions fellas.
 

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Reply #4 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 11:09am

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OK, I"ll try and explain screenshot taking without a program a little better, I think I made it a little confusing.

1 First, find an image you want to take a shot of and hit print screen.  This image is now saved on your clipboard.  If you hit print screen again, you will overwrite that image.  So, you can only take one screenshot at a time.

2 Now, minimize FS (or close FS, whichever you prefer)-minimizing just makes it faster to return to the sim.

3 Open MSPaint or a simular program.  Using the tool bar at the top, click "edit" and on the drop down menu click "paste."  Your image should now appear. 

4 Now save the image using MSPaint.

You can now return to FS and take another screenshot.

The programs that Souichiro mentioned are intended to make this process much easier.  I have never used one but they sound like you can simply hit "print screen" whenever you want and all those images are saved.

I hope that is more helpful to you.   Wink
 
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Reply #5 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 11:22am
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( sheesh the new image upload system is usefull for these kinda posts!)

Basically what you see here is my current screenshot folder. My fsscreen.exe is in this folder and every shot I took get's dropped in this folder.

As easy as that. It doesn't matter where you put the folder either. So save them to where you want them.... No clipboard needed!

Once again Fsscreen
 
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Reply #6 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 11:57am

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Ok, that makes sense........however.....The clipboard thing...  I take a shot,close or minimize, go to PAINT, go up to EDIT,hit PASTE................IS EDIT IN THE TOOL BAR THE ELUSIVE "CLIPBOARD" I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR? I'm laughing my arse off right now because if EDIT in PAINT is where I went wrong I feel like an idiot. Someone let me know if I just figured this out and the screens our gonna fly after this........It's been a long work week Grin. I foresee alot of beer this weekend Grin Grin Grin

FSscreen........Is there a link to this here at the V?
 

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Reply #7 - Feb 3rd, 2006 at 7:06pm

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The edit is up on the toolbar in the upper left corner of the screen.

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FSscreen........Is there a link to this here at the V?

I think I'm going to look into this program as well because it sounds like it makes things a lot easier.  From what I can tell, FSscreen is not avilable here at SimV-I did a search and it didn't come up.  The other program that Souichiro mentioned (YAFSscreen) is here and located here: http://www.simviation.com/fs2002utilities_gen2.htm, its the third from the top.

But, he said he liked FSscreen a lot more and I found it over at www.avsim.com by doing a search of the file library.  So, I think I'm going to download that and give it a try.
 
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Reply #8 - Feb 9th, 2006 at 11:51am

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I normally use Irfanview, download it from www.irfanview.com for free.  You can decide for yourself where the screenshots get saved, and also what key you press to take the shot in the first place.  So if there's a key combination you never use, say Shift-T, just tell Irfanview to take a screenshot whenever Shift-T is pressed.  Take as many as you want, then go to whatever directory you told it to use and all your screenies will be there.  You can even specify what format you want them saved as, I normally use .jpg

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Reply #9 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 11:20am

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Two things.

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FSscreen is supposed to take multiple shots. No matter how many times I hit print screen. It's not. It saves the last shot to my clipboard so all I get is the last shot of say an entire flight. Where are the rest of the shots? Am I supposed to set it up for multiple screenies? If so. Wheres that tool in FSscreen?

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I've got the resize part of my screen shots down easily. All of them ar at 800X600. My problem now is the compression. How do you compress images prior to uploading them here to the site? I uploaded around 9-11 shots and though they all said sucessful upload eventualy were taken off the site one by one due to their "weight".  I have no idea if FSscreen is supposed to have a tool in it that does this or if I'm supposed to have a seperate program for it.

I have alot of screens I'd love t post to share my artistic ability but am worried they will get deleted for doing something wrong. The last thing I want to do is upset any of the moderators that keep this wonderful site together. Based on my last efforts that have all been deleted. It's safe to say I had my fill of "marmalde" and want to make sure I'm doing it right.  Thanks in advance for any additional help in this matter.

Mike..............
 

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Reply #10 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 12:12pm

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You MUST have FSscreen running. Click it on before (or even during the flight) from the shortcut. Then you can press FSScreen as many times as you want and then, after your flight, you can see them all.

Mike, there are a variety of ways you can make them smaller.
This is my technique.

1)Name you images
2) Select all
3) Right click and send them all to email.
4) Ok the box that asks you to make them smaller
5) Up pops an email with them converted from bitmap, huge sizes and weights to a nice image ready for simviation. Drag them each out onto the desktop. 8)

It takes just a few seconds and you don't have to do them individually. 8)
 

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Reply #11 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 12:36pm

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As far as FSscreen goes I figured it was something like that. I'll try that tonight. As far as the compresssion goes, you more or less email yourself with your shots which have been compressed via your email correct? I'll try that tonight as well but it sort of seems redundant emailing pics to yourself that are already there. I'm not knocking your method by any means. If it works for me I will most likly use it all the time. Just seems like there should be an easier way to compress without emailing yourself. Thanks for the info Saitek Wink Anyone else got anymore suggestions on the compression help?


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Reply #12 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 12:46pm

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The important thing to understand about using one of the multiple screengrab utilities (like FSScreen) is that you must have it running before starting FS. I think some of these utilities have options for format, sizing & even compressing the images.

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As far as the compresssion goes, you more or less email yourself with your shots which have been compressed via your email correct? I'll try that tonight as well but it sort of seems redundant emailing pics to yourself that are already there. I'm not knocking your method by any means. If it works for me I will most likly use it all the time. Just seems like there should be an easier way to compress without emailing yourself. Thanks for the info Saitek  Anyone else got anymore suggestions on the compression help?

I've never heard of this method for resizing shots before. Something like IrfanView would be much easier. IMHO

PS. The Clipboard is a Windows feature. Think of it as a temporary place to store a file, data or text when moving it. Pressing the PrintScreen key saves the data to the Clipboard. Pasting it into an appropriate program retrieves it.
 

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Reply #13 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 12:56pm

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I know how to take shots now Hagar. FSscreen has the tools to resize my images to 800X600 and also neat effects for editing and what not but not for the compression side of it (unless I missed it). Taking shots is not the problem. And now that I know to to turn it on before a flight (FSscreen) multiple shots won't be a problem now either. I'm simply looking for suggestions on how to compress my shots after editing them in FSscreen so as not to have them deleted an hour or so after uploading them here. Thanks Wink
 

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Reply #14 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 1:02pm

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I'm simply looking for suggestions on how to compress my shots after editing them in FSscreen so as not to have them deleted an hour or so after uploading them here. Thanks Wink

Try IrfanView. http://www.irfanview.com/

To reduce the file size of an image open it in IrfanView & click File/Save As. Select JPEG format & adjust the Save Quality slider to suit. This takes a little experience but you should soon get the hang of it.

PS. You can also use IrfanView to resize the actual image.
 

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Reply #15 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 1:03pm

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As far as FSscreen goes I figured it was something like that. I'll try that tonight. As far as the compresssion goes, you more or less email yourself with your shots which have been compressed via your email correct? I'll try that tonight as well but it sort of seems redundant emailing pics to yourself that are already there. I'm not knocking your method by any means. If it works for me I will most likly use it all the time. Just seems like there should be an easier way to compress without emailing yourself. Thanks for the info Saitek Wink Anyone else got anymore suggestions on the compression help?
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No, no - if you follow my instructions you will end up with an email with your pics as attatchments ready to send. Just pull them out of the email "ready to send" and drop them on the desktop.

I do it this way every time I do screenies. Takes seconds. I'll grab you some screenies. You could do dozens in one go like this. Grin

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Reply #16 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 1:08pm

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P.S - Doug I have told folk this before and you said that. Tongue

Said what Ben? ???

I assume that if you intend posting these screenshots you want the best possible quality. I don't see how your method would give you that.
 

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Reply #17 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 1:20pm

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Oh I see. You set yourself up with an email that you don't intend to send. Your simply using the emal setup to compress your screenshots,then you drop and drag back to your destop and cancel the email. Once you have droped and dragged the compressed shots back to your desktop, does it go back to it's original weight if you double click on it to say check the image or no?
 

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Not sure what you mean there - but unless your originals are bitmaps (usually FsScreen has them as that) they will be written over.
It is not the best way as Doug points out - but I can't be bothered otherwise if I have lots to do. Otherwise i just use paint.
 

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Reply #19 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 2:18pm

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As stated before I use FSscreen to take the image and then use there resize option to put them at 800X600. When I save the resized (and sometimes edited) shot, I save it to my screenshots folder as a jpeg image per the Sim V guide lines. This is where I get into trouble with the "weight". Your suggestion on utilizing your email to compress the shots should work on jpeg images as well I assume. That being the case I should be ready to rock n roll with my shots unless I'm missing something with your method and or someone else has a different approach. I'll check back here a little later and see...............................
 

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Reply #20 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 3:22pm

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The YAFSScreen that Souichiro mentioned earlier has a quality slider option for JPEG images. http://www.simviation.com/fs2002utilities_gen2.htm
This should make it all automatic once you figure it out. It's similar to the one in IrfanView.

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Reply #21 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 3:53pm

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I'll be damned!! I think I see the errors of my ways in your screen. Down toward the bottom right hand corner of your screen there is a slider for quality/size prior to saving. Though it doen't show up like that in mine it DOES show up prior to saving the final image to my screenshot folder. I always had it set to max for best quality. Apparently setting it to max also increases the weight of the image. Dammit!!! I feel like an idiot!! First it was the elusive clipboard now this! Angry All the answers to all of my questions have always been right in front of me. I hope I'm right about this.........I'll do a test shot tonight.
 

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I'll be damned!! I think I see the errors of my ways in your screen. Down toward the bottom right hand corner of your screen there is a slider for quality/size prior to saving. Though it doen't show up like that in mine it DOES show up prior to saving the final image to my screenshot folder. I always had it set to max for best quality. Apparently setting it to max also increases the weight of the image.

Right. That slider defines the amount of compression which in turn affects the file size of the saved image. It might take a little experimenting before you get it right as the amount of compression will vary according to the size & content of the image. The setting in my shot gives around 100 Kb for an average 800 x 600 screenshot in FS9.
 

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Reply #23 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 5:14pm

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Thanks for everyones imput on this subject. Now lets see if I can post some shots worthy of this great site shall we Grin. Again thanks!!!
 

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Lol - I never even looked into that feature of FSScreen. Roll Eyes ;o
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Reply #25 - Feb 13th, 2006 at 8:37pm

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Your telling me......I've been saying all along I had FSscreen...........Ive got Irfanview................DOH!!!!!! It still had the file quality thing though Grin Most definately.....You learn something new everyday. Thanks again fellas for all you insight into this matter Wink
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Reply #26 - Feb 14th, 2006 at 11:39am

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One more question.........I turned IRfanview on before I went to fly last night. Then I set up a flight from Heathrow to Templhof. The settings were great! It was an early morning flight so there was all kinds of dawn shots to be had so I snapped away from taxi to take off to landing. Alas,when I was done with the flight and went to go see the shots I had done, all that was there in the edit/paste section when I clicked on it was the last shot taken where I had parked and shut down Sad. Where did the rest of my shots go? Did I go to the wrong place in Irfanview to retrieve them? At least everything else is sorted with my shots. I would hate to end up spamming a thread to get all of them in one at a time vs a set of 5-6 at once like I keep seeing. I hope there is an easy answer for this Roll Eyes. Thanks AGAIN.
 

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Reply #27 - Feb 14th, 2006 at 11:43am

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We seem to be talking at cross purposes. It's possible to set up IrfanView to use it as a screengrab utility but I've never used it for that purpose. I suggest you get YAFSScreen & use that for your shots. http://www.simviation.com/fs2002utilities_gen2.htm
 

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Reply #28 - Feb 14th, 2006 at 12:19pm

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Ya I was thinking that right after I posted. I'll give it a try tonight when I get home from work. If I like it better which I'm sure I will I'll toss the Irfanview. Thanks for the link and your help once again Wink
 

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Ya I was thinking that right after I posted. I'll give it a try tonight when I get home from work. If I like it better which I'm sure I will I'll toss the Irfanview. Thanks for the link and your help once again Wink

Horses for courses. Use YAFSScreen to take the shots as that's what it was intended for. Don't get rid of IrfanView as it can be very useful for processing the shots afterwards if necessary.
 

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