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Jan 29^th, 2006 at 10:32am

WombRaider Offline
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edit** At FSDs request, I am revoking my pevious comments. FSD resolved the issue, and refunded me. I ask that the moderator please remove this thread

Thank you
Warren

« Last Edit: Jan 30^th, 2006 at 11:53pm by WombRaider »

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Reply #1 - Jan 29^th, 2006 at 11:12am

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First off relax.

If you are legal, and I have no reason to assume you are not, you have no problem.

Contact Paypal and explain the problem to them. tell them everything you have posted here. Paypal has a buyer protection plan that this should cover. Also by filing a complaint through Paypal you could eventually cut off that source of funding for FSD.

There are legal programs out there, including anti spyware, that may cause this issue.

If it were me I would say Bring it on baby. IF you got evidence produce it in court. In any US court the EULA would come into evidence and the means they decided you had illegal programming also. If there is no mention of checking your system then you have them by the balls.

All they are trying to do is squeeze more cash from you. Hold your ground and contact Paypal first.

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Reply #2 - Jan 30^th, 2006 at 10:51am

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Wombraider,

First of all ....welcome to SimV.

Hum....... currious. As papa said... if you are legal, you have no reason to worry.

To my knowlede there are not yet any laws on the books that restrict tracking cookies and other such spyware type stuff. So I really don't think that kind of stuff is "illegal".....even if it seems "sleazy" to many people.

If there was illegal software already on the used computer when you purchased it, then there is some 'gray area" involved. If you KNOWINGLY accepted the machine with such stuff on it....... then there is a potential problem. But if you did not know it...... and can prove that....... you are fine.

As you try to work WITH them to resolve this, I do have to say that your extensive posting here creates an impression (at least to ME) that you seem to be defending yourself in a manner that makes your arguments a bit "suspect". Your comments do seem evasive, and you seem to be looking for solutions that show you how they think they "caught" you......possibly so you can erase those tracks. You might try having others read through your emails / letters to them for how they come across before sending them to the company.

I am NOT saying that you ARE doing anything illegal.... just saying that the way you chose to write that above posting maybe could be approached differently.

In any case, I would HOPE that the company would be reasonable about this.

best,

....................john

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Reply #3 - Jan 30^th, 2006 at 11:29am

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OK First a basic explanation of what a keygen does.

Keygen is reverse engineering the code check, then build a program that generates that code.

This usually has MD5 or some other calculation involved.

What has happened: someone who illegaly got the file has the same name as you have (or entered it),
The keygen program calculates the license key from your name / email / whatever else you have to enter in it.

What FSD does is to check this against their database (that's why it gives a firewall warning when installing) to find out if the key is produced by the paypal / sales department or obtained the worng way.

If someone manages to get their name and stuff in with the same key you recieved... the mess starts.

Just sent them the paypal stuff (you kept that didn't you) to prove you legally bought it and they should give you a new key.

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Reply #4 - Jan 30^th, 2006 at 2:37pm

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Ive never had a problem with FSD and I have all but one of their aircraft...actually 2 if you count the military version of the skymaster.

Ive even had problems with a couple when I had to reformat and contacted them with my information and within a day they gave me the info I needed. I always found them helpful personally.

My life is like the movie Office Space

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