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Jan 16^th, 2006 at 10:15am

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Dont u think that microsoft is targeting the fsX only for rich people because with limited system that 90% of the people have, cant enjoy the simulation at its fullest....what u people say...they can enjoy only improvement in ATC and flight dynamics but not in the world of scenery..like me i am also worried about upgrading my system...form 1 GB ram to 2 GB and Geforce 6600 256mb to geforce 7800 512mb...

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Reply #1 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 10:30am

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The more advanced they build it, the better it is.
From my point of view, I use the sim to get the best possible and most real flight I can experience, from VFR to IFR.

I don't play it like a "game", as I am learning and experiencing the closest I can to the real thing. So if they make the simulator more demanding and require more advanced technology to run it, then I will pay.

Remember, you don't need to buy FSX, you can run the sim just the way you have been..

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Reply #2 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 11:28am

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From my point of view, I use the sim to get the best possible and most real flight I can experience, from VFR to IFR.

I agree. New technology is coming out all the time. If you can't keep up, you may as well go back to playing a Commodore 64. Wink

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But hey, for or five years ago, who would think that people would have 200gb hard drives? Who thought that computer graphics would be this amazing? I see it as a precursor to some of the amazing oppertunities in the video game market.

Oh jeez I sound like an MS representitive.

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Reply #3 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 11:49am

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there's nothing wrong with not upgrading your system. it's perfectly alright.
although i cant say the same for myself cause i got a new computer every time FS came out...

but the best part is i like the originals. i still play civilization, sim city, age of empires, cause they are classic fun. it's also cool to note how far we have avdanced in graphic capabilites in just 15 years.

man i just bult this.. i hope FSX will run well...

Ramos

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Reply #4 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 11:57am

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Speaking of classics, I managed to pull out FS95 from the dusty confines of my drawers. It was the first sim I ever got in my lifetime. Back in the days, it's graphics were outstanding. But now, seeing FSX makes my FS95 look like real oldschool. Roll Eyes

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Reply #5 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 11:59am

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you people are saying right me also play it like a real world....not like an ordinary game...but i only love to play sim when all the settings are maxed out..to enjoy its maximum...and i do hours of flying sitting in front of my monitor.....but the prices of GPUs as we can see are too much expensive to beer by a middle class family....dont u people think so.....

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Reply #6 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 12:03pm

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I do play it like in the real world. I do lots of my training in it.

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Reply #7 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 12:10pm

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i think you guys are worring a little to much. Its still a year away so the most expensive grapic card now will become cheeper and for atleast good effects the computer you would need will be cheeper by then. I also expect you can still play the game with lower effects and it will still be a GREAT game. I'm 16 and i finally got a job and after i get my car i wil be savwing up for an alienware laptop by then (if i save right) i should be able to afford it. also i am willing to bet by then there will be a HD with a terabite of memory not really nessasary for a flight sim but sicine you were talking about tecnology i thought i would say that Wink

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and with any other thing with FSx we will just have to wait and see

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Reply #8 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 1:20pm

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In my opinion anyone can acquire what they truly desire. Although rich people can snap their finger and whatever they want is theirs instantly. People less fortunate can have what they desire, if you work and collect a salary or do other things (illegal) to acquire what you desire.

I don't beleive M$ caters to the wants of rich people or technology only the rich can acquire. M$ caters to the wants of enthusiasts and fans of the series. You as the consumer are being giving what you desire, they only bank off your desire to pay for what you want.

I bought a $3,000.00 ultimate gaming ring. I don't have money like that! It took me a whole year paying off my credit card bill to keep it. I worked for my rig and so can you! Invest in the future games to come and not on what is currently available. I wasted $1,500 on a pc I thought was the #@$@ when I first bought it and it was absolete in 3 years because of the developement.

The current machine I have won't be obsolete for about the next 5 years, I have owned for about 3 years now! I can just about play any kind of game on it. It is called staying ahead of the industry while you can!

There is no such thing as catering to the rich, it is catering to what the consumer desires and getting rich off them!

Its only in your mind, strong mind, strong soul and nobody can take that from you!

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Reply #9 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 1:24pm

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I'm gonna be looking at building a rig costing £1000 ($1700 approx) maybe next year not including LCD, i'll keep the one i have now. It will be cutting edge, but not bleeding edge.

My system:Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64

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Reply #10 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 1:27pm

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Come on guys by this time next year most of us will have upgraded to some suitable rig! I can remember when the first 1Gb HD appeared and everyone was amazed and didn't think it'd be possible to fill it Roll Eyes

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Reply #11 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 1:33pm

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I'm gonna be looking at building a rig costing £1000 ($1700 approx) maybe next year not including LCD, i'll keep the one i have now. It will be cutting edge, but not bleeding edge.

I wouldn't call what I did bleeding edge..more like gawging edge Grin

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! But when I play it, I really enjoy the investment. Everything looks so sharp and realistic nothing like playing games and seeing a reflection in a mirror or standing water on the ground. (games like Swat4 and Max Payne).

Its only in your mind, strong mind, strong soul and nobody can take that from you!

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Reply #12 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 1:37pm

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Come on guys by this time next year most of us will have upgraded to some suitable rig! I can remember when the first 1Gb HD appeared and everyone was amazed and didn't think it'd be possible to fill it Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Remember Moores Law children Wink

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I saw an ad today for a harddrive with the amazing size of 1 TB! Terrabyte didn't expect that now...only 900 euro's Roll Eyes

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Reply #13 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 1:37pm

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Remember Moores Law children Wink

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More like cores law now. The more cores the better. Grin

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My pc runs FS9 really well, but i don't think FSX will run too good.

My system:Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64

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Reply #14 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 2:32pm

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Just do what Im doing

have one comupter with Only flight sim on it.
No other games to slow it down.
then have another computer with the internet so you can download other files. Grin

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just make sure the files dont have any bugs on them before you put them into your flight sim computer

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Reply #15 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 3:33pm

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I have a friend who already got rid of here cheap rig. If I had known about the rig and had she discussed it with me, I would have gotten it and used it exactly what AVIATION just said. But right now, I have my computer setup in the following configuration:

40GB Main Internal HD - Other Programs

$100 80GB External HD - For FS9 [will be removed when FSX comes out].

$140 250GB External HD - For X-Plane v8.21

As you can see, I have seperated the sims from the main computer drive so that I can save space for the main HD. The rest of what's in the main drive is just tools for developing my projects. Nothing more.

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Reply #16 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 4:29pm

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Well what I plan to do is get a few last upgrades for Sheila (X1800XL, SoundBlaster X-Fi, New processer possably conroe) to use until DX10 comes out when I plan to build a completely new rig. And for the new rig im thinking Quad SLI Grin

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Reply #17 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 6:19pm

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Just do what Im doing

have one comupter with Only flight sim on it.
No other games to slow it down.
then have another computer with the internet so you can download other files. Grin

Grin

just make sure the files dont have any bugs on them before you put them into your flight sim computer

This sounds like a good idea, but to save money on a new pc why not just purchase a new large harddrive to place on your pc. You can use the one hard drive to play FS9 on and the other harddrive for your computer needs Including downloading files.

Its only in your mind, strong mind, strong soul and nobody can take that from you!

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Reply #18 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 9:05pm

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Dont u think that microsoft is targeting the fsX only for rich people because with limited system that 90% of the people have, cant enjoy the simulation at its fullest....what u people say...they can enjoy only improvement in ATC and flight dynamics but not in the world of scenery..like me i am also worried about upgrading my system...form 1 GB ram to 2 GB and Geforce 6600 256mb to geforce 7800 512mb...

When is the last time a new computer game came out that would run well on a year old system? Computer games ALWAYS, ALWAYS push the limits of the available (or nearly available) technology. Why should FSX be any different?

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Reply #19 - Jan 16^th, 2006 at 9:09pm

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Speaking of classics, I managed to pull out FS95 from the dusty confines of my drawers. It was the first sim I ever got in my lifetime. Back in the days, it's graphics were outstanding. But now, seeing FSX makes my FS95 look like real oldschool. Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

My first sim was Microsoft Flight Simulator, before they had enough versions to start using numbers like "2.0". Chicago was just a coastal outline between two shades of grey with wire frame buildings. Meigs was just lines on the "land' color of gray.

Yeah, flight sims and the computers which run them have come a long, long way. MSFS 4.0 was SOOO COOL. Clouds. Actualy clouds. Granted there were just big floating spheres, but they were clouds!

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Reply #20 - Jan 17^th, 2006 at 1:11am

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As a builder I keep my computer fairly up to date but walking through a computer store the other day I saw some really nice computers that rival mine for up to date goodies and they all were very capable of running FSX and at a cheaper price than I spent building mine.

When Vista comes out the new computers will all be running it as they did XP when it came out.

I plan on buying Vista when it comes out and will take the upgrades as they come.

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Reply #21 - Jan 17^th, 2006 at 4:47pm

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Ill be gettin a job soon, but no new rig for a while. Long while. Exchange trip in June, car by this time next year (really just 4 wheels and a motor, seats and steering wheel are optional), College in 2 years, Then at least 8 years (probably life) in the service. I need to win the lottery. Grin

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I think I'll just stick with FS9 for awhile. Graphics are really good, even on my 3-4 year old rig, was a year to two out of date when I got it too. Only minor upgrades, ATI 9200, 512 more RAM, 120GB hd.

No company makes a product to sell only to the rich. They make products to sell to anyone who can afford them, which is most of the time, the rich, but not always. My 84 year old grandfather wanted a new boat, he doesn't have any money in the bank, he lived through the depression and doesn't trust them. He wanted to buy a 30' pleasaure cruiser, he had nowhere near the money to do it. He went out, got recertified as a barber and worked his butt off. Now, 3 years later, hes got a forty footer sitting at my uncles dock in Florida.

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Reply #22 - Jan 17^th, 2006 at 6:12pm

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My 84 year old grandfather wanted a new boat, he doesn't have any money in the bank, he lived through the depression and doesn't trust them. He wanted to buy a 30' pleasaure cruiser, he had nowhere near the money to do it. He went out, got recertified as a barber and worked his butt off. Now, 3 years later, hes got a forty footer sitting at my uncles dock in Florida.

Now that's dedication.

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Reply #23 - Jan 17^th, 2006 at 6:33pm

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No company makes a product to sell only to the rich

Tell that to the Lamborghini or Ferrari car companies Wink

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COMPLETED: If Anyone Cares, Here's A Map Of My Current FSX Flight Around The World

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Reply #24 - Jan 17^th, 2006 at 7:14pm

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No, they make those cars to sell to anyone who can afford them. I'm sure you could take out a second mortgage on your house, and how much houses cost these days, that can easily be enough to buy you a nice car.

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