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Jan 11th, 2006 at 12:31pm

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1) Admiral Yamamoto famously said "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant"

2) General Patton end his career at West Point.

3) After Hitler invaded Russia, did Stalin fear that he would be executed by his own generals?

4) Did Japanese soldiers occupying Attu and Kiska in the Alution Islands resort to cannabalism to stay alive?

5) The Kasserine Pass a resounding victory for the US army?

6) the "Dam Busters" mission was called Operation Chastie

8) The U505 is currently on display at Williamshaven, Germany.

9) Chester Nimitz was from Fredricksburg, Texas.

10) Stalin's Organs are Katyusha rockets

11) Stalin actually means "Strong Man"

12) German Army Group A drove to seize Russian oil fields in the Crimea.

13) Broadway is an airfield in Burma.

14) The Kwainung Army skirmished against the Australians in New Guinea.

15) German paratroopers landed in Crete.

16) The Bristol Beaufighter's main role was tank-buster.

17) The British considered the P51 Mustang as a failue.

17) The Doodle-Bug was a popular dance in 1944.
 

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Reply #1 - Jan 11th, 2006 at 12:40pm

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I'll have a go at a couple.

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1) Admiral Yamamoto famously said "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant"

I've seen various translations but words to that effect.

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6) the "Dam Busters" mission was called Operation Chastie

I believe it was actually Operation Chastise.

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15) German paratroopers landed in Crete.

I think this was the first operation by paratroops during WWII. (Maybe it was gliders.)

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18 ) The Doodle-Bug was a popular dance in 1944.

That's possible but the V1 missile was referred to as a Doodlebug by the British public.

PS. I added these. I haven't cheated.

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16) The Bristol Beaufighter's main role was tank-buster.

I think the Beaufighter was intended as a general purpose heavy fighter. It served in various roles in several theatres but I believe it was first used as a night-fighter.

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17) The British considered the P51 Mustang as a failue.

Originally yes. It wasn't considered suitable for the job it was intended for & by the time it was delivered was no longer required.
 

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Reply #2 - Jan 11th, 2006 at 12:52pm

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2) General Patton end his career at West Point.


I thought he ended it upside down in a Jeep (or similar vehicle in Germany)

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6) the "Dam Busters" mission was called Operation Chastie


As Doug said, "Chastise"

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16) The Bristol Beaufighter's main role was tank-buster.


Over the balance of the war it could be argued that it was more of a Nightfighter and all round ground attack aircraft

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17) The British considered the P51 Mustang as a failue.


No, but we gave it a better engine, but we didn't need the later versions...

 
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Reply #3 - Jan 11th, 2006 at 1:06pm

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While I'm logged in:  (I have not read through the other posts yet):

Yamamoto: True
Patton: False (Vehicle accident in Germany)
Stalin's name: False ('Man of Steel')

Do not know any others.
 
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Reply #4 - Jan 11th, 2006 at 1:10pm

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3) After Hitler invaded Russia, did Stalin fear that he would be executed by his own generals?

No because he'd already executed his own Generals.

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10) Stalin's Organs are Katyusha rockets

Thats a fact.

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15) German paratroopers landed in Crete.

True. It's also true that the British high command knew of this plan through Station X but considered keeping the secret was greater than keeping Crete.

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17) The British considered the P51 Mustang as a failue.

Not at all. Before we fitted the Merlin we saw it as a good low level figher/ground attack aircraft.

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16) The Bristol Beaufighter's main role was tank-buster.

Not really. Night fighter in Europe. Antiship and fighter bomber in Asia.

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11) Stalin actually means "Strong Man"

I thought it meant "Man of Steel" or something to that effect.

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5) The Kasserine Pass a resounding victory for the US army?

I shouldn't think the Germans look upon it as that.

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9) Chester Nimitz was from Fredricksburg, Texas.

True.

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6) the "Dam Busters" mission was called Operation Chastie

As stated above. Chastise.
 

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Reply #5 - Jan 11th, 2006 at 3:28pm

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1. Translations rended what he said as such

2. No. He died in a car accident.

3. No.

4. Yes.

5. No

6. Yes

8. No. It's in Chicago as part of the Museum of Science and Indusry, including all shell holes, and can be walked through.

9. Yes he was.

10. Not quite. Katusha rockets were nicknamed Stalin's Organ

13. I dont think so

15. Yes

16. No. It was designed as a fighter but was too slow for daytine use so it was converted for a nighttime role.

17. Yes until they added the merlin engine. The original Allison didn't have the umph and the aircraft was relegated to a ground support role as the A-36.

18. Actually the Allied nick name for the V1.

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Reply #6 - Jan 11th, 2006 at 3:39pm

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Quote:
1) Admiral Yamamoto famously said "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant"

2) General Patton end his career at West Point.

3) After Hitler invaded Russia, did Stalin fear that he would be executed by his own generals?

4) Did Japanese soldiers occupying Attu and Kiska in the Alution Islands resort to cannabalism to stay alive?

5) The Kasserine Pass a resounding victory for the US army?

6) the "Dam Busters" mission was called Operation Chastie

The U505 is currently on display at Williamshaven, Germany.

9) Chester Nimitz was from Fredricksburg, Texas.

10) Stalin's Organs are Katyusha rockets

11) Stalin actually means "Strong Man"

12) German Army Group A drove to seize Russian oil fields in the Crimea.

13) Broadway is an airfield in Burma.

14) The Kwainung Army skirmished against the Australians in New Guinea.

15) German paratroopers landed in Crete.

16) The Bristol Beaufighter's main role was tank-buster.

17) The British considered the P51 Mustang as a failue.

17) The Doodle-Bug was a popular dance in 1944.


1) Words similar, if not the same, to this (as Doug, Charlie etc pointed out)

2) Never heard of him. Tongue  Cheesy

3) Dunno. Smiley

4) Probably. Wink

5) Dunno. Smiley

6) As the others pointed out, "Chastise".

7) What's the U505? Smiley

8 ) Was he?

9) Sure, why not? Cheesy

10) Probably. Wink

11) I'm pretty sure they did.

12) Broadway was indeed an airfield in Burma, or in a similar location to Burma (Vietnam etc)

13) Wow! the Aussies fought!! 8) But did the Japs skirmish with them? ??? Smiley

14) Okay, if you says so. Smiley

15) Nope, the Beaufighter was a coastal patrol and defense aircraft I believe.

16) No, we Brits considered it a success I think. Wink

17)Doodle-bug was our nickname fro the V1's.

Am I historically accurate or what!? Grin
 

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Reply #7 - Jan 11th, 2006 at 3:52pm

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17) The Doodle-Bug was a popular dance in 1944.


Missed that one. No, but the Jitterbug was...
 
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Reply #8 - Jan 11th, 2006 at 5:04pm

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1) Admiral Yamamoto famously said "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant"

Unlikely,  1st tracable quote of this is from the movie, Tora Tora Tora.

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2) General Patton end his career at West Point.

U guys got this one.  He died in a car crash in late 1945.

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3) After Hitler invaded Russia, did Stalin fear that he would be executed by his own generals?

Maybe I should have changed the word generals.  So those who said no because he killed his generals got it correct, even though I was looking for yes.  When those staff members reported to Stalin that Hitler had invaded, Stalin thought they came in to shoot him precicely because he killed off his generals.

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4) Did Japanese soldiers occupying Attu and Kiska in the Alution Islands resort to cannabalism to stay alive?

Nope.  The resorted to cannabalism on New Guinea, Guadalcanal, and in isolated yet highly charged incident on Chi Chi Jima.

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5) The Kasserine Pass a resounding victory for the US army?

Nope!

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6) the "Dam Busters" mission was called Operation Chastie

Oh, my poor spelling!   Wink

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The U505 is currently on display at Williamshaven, Germany.

Wrong, Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago, Ill

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9) Chester Nimitz was from Fredricksburg, Texas.

Correct

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10) Stalin's Organs are Katyusha rockets

correct

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11) Stalin actually means "Strong Man"

Nope, "Man of Steel"

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12) German Army Group A drove to seize Russian oil fields in the Crimea.

Correct, BTW, they never made it.  Russian counterattacks during the greater battle of Kursk

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13) Broadway is an airfield in Burma.

Correct - Wingate's Chindits established an airfield some 200 miles behind Japanese lines, they called Broadway.  The Japanese never found out about this - until it was too late.

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14) The Kwainung Army skirmished against the Australians in New Guinea.

Nope - the Kwaintung Army was Japan's standing army hanging out at the Russian border.  The Japanese never figured out the Russians never planned to attack, so several hundered thousand Imperial soldiers were going to waste, being kept out of the war along the Russian border.

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15) German paratroopers landed in Crete.

correct - Musolini tried to grab some glory for himself and got in over his head, so Hitler had to come along and bail him our

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16) The Bristol Beaufighter's main role was tank-buster.

Nope, coastal patrol plane and night fighter

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17) The British considered the P51 Mustang as a failue.

correct, and as was stated previously, it was underpowered at the time

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17) The Doodle-Bug was a popular dance in 1944. 

nope - V1

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Reply #9 - Jan 11th, 2006 at 5:07pm

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Oh yea, the Aussies definately did fight and die.

In New Guinea, they saved Port Morsby from being overrun by Japanese soldiers, fighting in the Owen-Stanley mountains along the kokoda trail.  Also, at the defeat at the battle of Savo Island, the HMAS Canberra was sunk by the Japanese .
 

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Reply #10 - Jan 11th, 2006 at 5:15pm

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17) The British considered the P51 Mustang as a failue.

correct, and as was stated previously, it was underpowered at the time


I wouldn't call it underpowered - if it had been underpowered it would have been totally useless. I think it lacked a decent supercharger though, hence it was useless above 15,000ft (well, underpowered really! Wink Grin)

The British don't tend to think of things as failures. The early Mustangs were just found a suitable role, in their case Army Cooperation for the most part.
 
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15) German paratroopers landed in Crete. 

correct - Musolini tried to grab some glory for himself and got in over his head, so Hitler had to come along and bail him our

Actually that was the Balkans that Hitler had to get Musilini out of trouble. The same could be said for the early north African campaigns. The invasion of Crete was an entirely German affair.

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14) The Kwainung Army skirmished against the Australians in New Guinea. 
 
Nope - the Kwaintung Army was Japan's standing army hanging out at the Russian border.  The Japanese never figured out the Russians never planned to attack, so several hundered thousand Imperial soldiers were going to waste, being kept out of the war along the Russian border.

You forget that in the closing months of the war the Russians did attack.

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17) The British considered the P51 Mustang as a failue. 

correct, and as was stated previously, it was underpowered at the time

As stated we didn't consider it a failiure as even with the Alison engines it was a more than reasonable ground support aircraft. Problem is that even with the Merlin in it it wasn't as good a fighter as the Spitfire. Grin
 

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Reply #12 - Jan 11th, 2006 at 5:50pm

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The British don't tend to think of things as failures. The early Mustangs were just found a suitable role, in their case Army Cooperation for the most part.

I'm not sure about that Charlie. A lot of aircraft ordered by the British Purchasing Commission sent to the US in the early part of WWII were later found to be almost useless for their purpose when tested by the pilots at Martlesham Heath. Many of them sat in maintenance units for years before being scrapped or used as squadron hacks. The Mustangs had been ordered when we were desperately short of fighters during the BoB. By the time they were delivered the BoB was over & they were no longer needed. In fact production of the Spitfire & Hurricane had kept up with demand & the shortage was of trained pilots to fly them. It's quite possible that if they'd been delivered sooner the RAF Mustangs would have been sent to places like North Africa & the Far East until better replacements became available.

I'm not saying the Mustang I as the original P-51 was called was a bad aircraft. Because of the lack of a supercharged engine it was simply inferior to home produced types like the Spitfire at the time.

PS. Bear in mind that the original requirement was for the P-40 which I believe had the same Allison engine. Many of these Tomahawks & later Kittyhawks were sent to North Africa.
 

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Reply #13 - Jan 11th, 2006 at 10:34pm

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Actually Hagar you got it partially right.

The P-51 came into being when the British went to the US looking to buy P-40's in January 1940. The production lines were running full bore so the British couldn't get any. Instead they wer treated to a discussion fron North American who told them they could have a prototype ready in 120 days.

Two Mustang I aircraft were delivered with the Merlin engine. The british at the time however kept the Merlin for the Spit and others. It wasn't until they licensed the Merlin to the US, and Packard began building them, that the aircrafts true potential as a high altitude fighter became known.

Each engine had it's good points and it's bad points and each engine was capable of being supercharged. The Merlin Mustang was unbeatable above 15,000 ft. Below that the Allison Mustang was faster and could out perform it's merlin powered sibling.

The US took the Allison engined aircraft and renamed it the A-36 to get around budget constraints. They also called it the Apache and it became one of the best ground attack aircraft of the war.

I would also go so far as to wager the P-51 was one of the best aircraft of the war. It's ability to go toe to toe with anything the Germans had was legendary. It was also the first propeller driven aircraft to shoot down the ME-262.

The Spit and Hurri were the right aircraft at the right time for the British and they and their pilots saved Britian from being invaded.

Later versions of the Spit were good aircraft and performed wery well in their assigned roles.

We must remember that it was because of the British the P-51 came into existance. Otherwise we might be talking about the Curtis P-46 ot he Republic P-47.

 
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1) in the movies.
2) auto accident (not fair: I have Last Days of Patton on DVD)
3) his generals feared being executed by him
4) for why? It wasn't like they were forever trapped there.
5) OK, I don't know about that one.
6) according to the documentary I saw, Operation Chastise, with a lot of practice in similar scenery (Scotland, I think).
I lose count here:
8?) it's on display but not in Germany (on this side of the puddle but I've forgotten where; hope this wasn't the double-credit question Roll Eyes)
9) I'll guess yes but not sure.
10) rockets they are by name; the real ones are dust
11) Sort of... he liked this name as meaning "Steel Man" or "Man of Steel"
12) Not sure which units but the event happened
13) at one time or another; it's better known for a different type of runway in New York.
14) Don't know about that... exactly when; how long were they in China?
15) Definately... they also left later on but I'm not sure they did much jumping
16) I know it was rather slow so was better as a night fighter.
17) certainly not as a failue and it was employed, I believe, as the Apache rather than Mustang
Is this the missing #7 (we subtract 10?):
17)My Grandmother! The 'jitterbug' was a roaring '20s' dance and the doodlebug was a nickname for the Model A Ford, I do believe. During WW2, (those who play the stock CFS1 Single mission - defaulted with the Spitfire IX - would know this) it was the nickname for the V-1 Flying Bomb.
 
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OK. Now I've read the rest of the post. Some of my 'facts' are a bit off and I still question a couple things. There's a question as to whether it was the P51 that actually was 1st to shoot down a 262 (even if the 1st fighter to do so). Papa9571 corrects my "Apache" naming; I think he's older than I and was probably there Grin.
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Actually Hagar you got it partially right.

The P-51 came into being when the British went to the US looking to buy P-40's in January 1940. The production lines were running full bore so the British couldn't get any. Instead they wer treated to a discussion fron North American who told them they could have a prototype ready in 120 days.

Two Mustang I aircraft were delivered with the Merlin engine. The british at the time however kept the Merlin for the Spit and others. It wasn't until they licensed the Merlin to the US, and Packard began building them, that the aircrafts true potential as a high altitude fighter became known.

I'm pretty sure of my facts on the history of the P-51. I have an issue of Aeroplane Monthly dedicated to it including articles by Lee Atwood who was the vice-president of North American Aviation at the time. No Mustang Is were delivered to the RAF with Merlin engines but two of the original Allison powered examples were delivered to the US Army for evaluation under the designation XP-51. This later became the A-36 Apache. It was Rolls-Royce chief test pilot Ronald Harker who suggested fitting a Merlin & the initial conversion & testing of five Mustang 1s was done in Britain. The first Merlin powered Mustang X (AL975) took to the air on October 12, 1942, piloted by Captain R. T. Shepherd & fitted with a Spitfire IX propeller. Meanwhile, North American had been informed of what was going on & started their own conversion programme with two repossesed Mustang 1As from the RAF contract & using imported Merlins. These were designated XP-51B & as manufacturers NA were responsible for the rest of the conversion work. At about the same time it was being arranged for Packard to build the Merlin under licence in the US. The rest, as they say, is history.

I think you will find most sources agree on this. I found this article that gives full details of the Merlin conversion, including the serial numbers of the converted aircraft. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p51_8.html
 

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H..

I am not that old..I just read a lot

And Hagar.. This is what was sent to the RAF as Mustang I

NA-83 Mustang Mk I: second run (300) for RAF with minor changes
One aircraft later fitted with twelve-cylinder Vee liquid-cooled Merlin 61,
Two fitted with twelve-cylinder Vee liquid-cooled Merlin 65 as “Mustang Mk X”
One armed with two 40-mm Vickers 'S' cannon
British experiments replacing stock Allison engine with Rolls Royce twelve-cylinder Vee liquid-cooled Merlin engines led to dramatic performance improvements, especially at high altitude & subsequent use in all future production P-51s

It was the second order that two merlin engined mustangs were delivered
 
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And Hagar.. This is what was sent to the RAF as Mustang I

NA-83 Mustang Mk I: second run (300) for RAF with minor changes
One aircraft later fitted with twelve-cylinder Vee liquid-cooled Merlin 61,
Two fitted with twelve-cylinder Vee liquid-cooled Merlin 65 as “Mustang Mk X”
One armed with two 40-mm Vickers 'S' cannon
British experiments replacing stock Allison engine with Rolls Royce twelve-cylinder Vee liquid-cooled Merlin engines led to dramatic performance improvements, especially at high altitude & subsequent use in all future production P-51s

It was the second order that two merlin engined mustangs were delivered

OK. I haven't seen that. I don't know the date of that second batch but they could have been the first of the NA conversions I mentioned.

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There's a question as to whether it was the P51 that actually was 1st to shoot down a 262 (even if the 1st fighter to do so).

Debatable. Captain Chuck Yeager shot down an Me 262 while flying a P-51D on 6th November 1944. http://www.475thfghf.org/Friends/yeager.htm
According to this the first Allied aircraft to shoot down a Me 262 was a Tempest Mk V which is a propeller driven fighter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262
According to this it was Spitfires of 401 Squadron RAF on 5th October 1944. http://www.mikekemble.com/ww2/spitfire.html
And according to this it was a pair of P-47s on 28th August 1944. http://www.vectorsite.net/avme262.html
Apparently there was no jet vs jet combat until the Korean war 1950-53.

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Papa9571 corrects my "Apache" naming; I think he's older than I and was probably there

The A-36 was also known as the Invader. "The official name for the A-36 was Apache but it never was widely used. Another was Invader, which did not have much more success: the aircraft was mostly known as the Mustang." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-36_Apache

PS. I believe the P-51 was originally named Mustang by the RAF. Most US aircraft at the time were known by their military designations like P-40 & P-51.
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Reply #19 - Jan 12th, 2006 at 8:46am

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On 9 December 1940 the British Purchasing Comission sent a letter to North American Aviation stating that the NA-73 airplanes have been given the official designation of "Mustang".


The US Army insisted on the name Apache for the A-36 version but it never stuck.

One other side note.

The P-51 first entered service in 1941 and the last were "retired" in 1984.

And we owe the British a big thank you for bringing the P-51 in being.
 
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Actually that was the Balkans that Hitler had to get Musilini out of trouble. The same could be said for the early north African campaigns. The invasion of Crete was an entirely German affair.


LOL!!!  Looks like I got that wrong.

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You forget that in the closing months of the war the Russians did attack.


I didn't forget that.  I just considered that as the Japanese phrase: The Russians were "the thief at the fire".  In Japan, most houses were made of wood and paper, so they were highly combustable.  So when a house catches fire, everyone appreciates the tragedy such an event is, and when someone come in and starts stealing things from the house when everyone else is trying to put the fire out, that thief is considered to be the lowest of the lows, and that's how the Japanese considered the Russians.  They were attepting to enlist the Russians to mediate for a peace at the end of the war, and the Russians were fully involved in the doublecross, therefore "the thief at the fire".
 

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Reply #21 - Jan 12th, 2006 at 10:10pm

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May I assume that this is the Army that was stopped at Stalingrad?
 
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May I assume that this is the Army that was stopped at Stalingrad?

That was the Sixth Army. Whether they were one and the same I cannot tell you.
 

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May I assume that this is the Army that was stopped at Stalingrad?



I can't add much detail.  Out of disclosure, I just started a book on the battle of Kursk.  I'm sure I'll learn much more about Army Group A by the time I'm done.


http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=cs8ojt6451oph?method=4&dsid=2222&...
 

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Reply #24 - Jan 13th, 2006 at 12:54pm

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If the army group A you're referring to was involved in the battle of Kursk then it would not have consisted of the Sixth Army that had by that time already been defeated at Stalingrad.

That link you've provided has also confirmed my belief that calling an army group A/B etc was simpy a way of dividing your forces in a pincer movement such as the Blitzkrieg attacks on the low countries and Russia. Which means that the question referring to Army Group A could have been answered correctly in many very different ways.
 

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Reply #25 - Jan 13th, 2006 at 9:38pm

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I mistakenly thought that German eastern advances were concluded after Stalingrad.

Here is a great article on The Battle of Kursk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk

It is difficult to determine where the German advances took place without a map but I thought that the oil regions of the Cacausus were cut off after the defeat at Stalingrad.
 
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Reply #26 - Jan 18th, 2006 at 9:29pm

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The Beaufighter was a long-range heavy fighter modification of the Bristol Aeroplane Company's earlier Beaufort torpedo bomber design. Unlike the Beaufort, the Beaufighter had a long career and served in almost all theatres of war, first as a night fighter, then as a strike fighter, and eventually replaced the Beaufort as a torpedo bomber.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Beaufighter

Most famous, imo, for its role as a night fighter, using very early radar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cunningham_(Royal_Air_Force)
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Group Captain John "Cat's Eyes" Cunningham CBE, DSO and two Bars, DFC and Bar, (1917-July 2002), was an Officer in the Royal Air Force during World War II. Flying first Blenheims and then the powerful Bristol Beaufighter, by the end of the Blitz in May 1941 he had become the most famous night fighter pilot, successfully claiming 14 night raiders using AI (Airborne Interception - the aircraft version of what became later know as radar.)


No! I did'nt Google that!

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