Simviation Forum - What FS-X WILL NOT Include!!!

Jan 5^th, 2006 at 10:40am

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Since other than the official Q&A released, those who know can't tell, I'm opening this thread to really speculate on what FS-X will NOT include...

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Reply #1 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 10:50am

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A new Up to date brand spanking new computer to play the blasted thing on Grin

I mean, exactly HOW much of an improvement can this be on fs9 without compromising on the performace of the computer system? My computer is by no means ancient, but if microsoft release FSX with 'the best graphics ever', i think a lot of people will choose not to buy it purely for the reason that their computer can't handle it. If FSX will be 'the next-generation' in terms of graphical ability, wont this mean microsoft will have to get rid of things like the learning centre, extra planes and pre routed flightplans to compromise with the sheer size of the game?

Hope i started a good debate with that one Wink

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Reply #2 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 10:59am

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A career mode, and its better this way. Tongue

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Reply #3 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 11:00am

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Reply #4 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 11:04am

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A new Up to date brand spanking new computer to play the blasted thing on Grin

I mean, exactly HOW much of an improvement can this be on fs9 without compromising on the performace of the computer system? My computer is by no means ancient, but if microsoft release FSX with 'the best graphics ever', i think a lot of people will choose not to buy it purely for the reason that their computer can't handle it. If FSX will be 'the next-generation' in terms of graphical ability, wont this mean microsoft will have to get rid of things like the learning centre, extra planes and pre routed flightplans to compromise with the sheer size of the game?

Hope i started a good debate with that one Wink

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Computer technology is the fastest area for what today is top of the line and tomorrow obsolete area there is.

My rig runs FS9 wonderfully, however I cannot nor do I expect it to run FSX as it does FS9. What does that mean? if I want the immersion level and the graphics that FSX will offer, I will have to upgrade. If not I can stay with the perfectly viable FS9 that I have now that I enjoy immensely.

Just because FSX is released (when its released) doesnt mean I have to jump in immediately and buy it. I really feel I would be let down because my hardware wont support it as its meant to be enjoyed.

I can hear it now though when it is released...

I just blew $60 and it looks like crap.

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Reply #5 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 11:08am

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A career mode, and its better this way. Tongue

yup, no sense getting "fired" before you get off the ground!

(On the other hand, when you DO fail a "career", an animated Bill Gates^* pointing a finger at you and calmly saying "You're Fired!" would be worth the career mode!)

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Reply #6 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 11:19am

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Moving vehicles in and around the airport - fuel trucks, steps, tugs etc. I doubt it will include them, but I'd gladly be told that I am wrong! Cheesy

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Reply #7 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 11:20am

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Ozzy-proof flight environment Grin

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Reply #8 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 11:24am

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According to reports, FSX will NOT include Fozzers Cooker (AI) in the Hereford area.

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Reply #9 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 11:40am

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Reply #10 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 12:02pm

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I reckon it won't contain any default aircraft and will be incompatable with all third party software done to date.

I would love to see them do that. Grin

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Reply #11 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 12:07pm

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I reckon it won't contain any default aircraft and will be incompatable with all third party software done to date.

I would love to see them do that. Grin

Actually that wouldn't surprise me at all. Grin

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Reply #12 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 12:28pm

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Reply #13 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 12:28pm

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Smellovision? Grin

mMm, the smell of jet fuel coming out of your computer... jsut imagine the shock when you mom walks in the room

"ALEX! no more flight sim for you, i can smell it from upstairs!"
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Reply #14 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 12:37pm

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mMm, the smell of jet fuel coming out of your computer... jsut imagine the shock when you mom walks in the room

"ALEX! no more flight sim for you, i can smell it from upstairs!"
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You mean she can't already tell by the "aroma" of a 16-hour stint at the controls without a bathroom break?

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Reply #15 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 1:00pm

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It won't include a feature that causes your computer to malfunction slightly if you land too hard....and completely destroy it if you crash. Grin

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Reply #16 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 1:54pm

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mMm, the smell of jet fuel coming out of your computer... jsut imagine the shock when you mom walks in the room

"ALEX! no more flight sim for you, i can smell it from upstairs!"
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You mean she can't already tell by the "aroma" of a 16-hour stint at the controls without a bathroom break?

LMAO.. you guys crack me up Grin

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Reply #17 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 2:00pm

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mMm, the smell of jet fuel coming out of your computer... jsut imagine the shock when you mom walks in the room

"ALEX! no more flight sim for you, i can smell it from upstairs!"
Tongue

Ramos

Hey my computer already smells like Jet A so that wouldn't make a difference. I think the smell of propwash and burnt oil would be nice though

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Reply #18 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 2:03pm

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decent Citroen 2CV road dynamics?

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Reply #19 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 2:07pm

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Reply #20 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 2:19pm

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What will FS not include? Hmmmm.....How about that irish dude who runs into the middle of sporting events wearing a kilt and wielding large pieces of cardboard that advertise religion. Yep, pretty sure hes not going to be running across the RW at KORD screeming at passengers.

Oh, and FSX will not include all the great aspects of business aviation. Sure it has a lear and a King Air, but what about wealthy pricks who complain about the weather? And we can't forget all those arrogant Piaggio pilots and owners, FS will never be complete untill it includes them. And what about a "ground crew mode" where you wake up at 4am to deal with all of the above, plus crazy ramp managers, and stick-in-the-ass flight options pilots who bitch about not having their slow ass Hawker on the ramp after they call only 10 minute ahead of time. Then you finally reach luinch time and a friggin' Bonanza pilot whines about how he never gets the parking spot in front of the FBO, and he claims "if you would put those damn chips down, and get off your ass, things would run better"(when in reality this is the only time you have sat down since you got there). And when the shift change time comes, you learn that they need you for second shift because another flightline worker is hung over and needs you to work for him. So you do all of that over again and you reach 2159cst, when a fax comes in. Who could that be? Why its none other than a Netjets catering order. So you go out to find caviar and filet mignon, and in the process you are called by 5 netjets people all to confirm the same order. But of course you got the order, but there are no vendors of caviar this late. So you say "**** it" and buy some peanut crackers and beef jerky out of the vending machine, and call it a day. That would be just ****ing sweet, would it not?

Yup, MS has along way to go to be "As Real As It Gets"

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Reply #21 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 2:22pm

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FSX will not include anything. Infact I predict that it will just be an empty box.

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...sheep wandering on the runway...

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decent Citroen 2CV road dynamics?

Well it is a simulator after all Grin

Me-thinks you are asking too much from the original car Wink

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You mean she can't already tell by the "aroma" of a 16-hour stint at the controls without a bathroom break?

16 minutes out of the shower, don't most teenage boys small that way anyway??......no offence Ramos, we where all teenagers once Grin

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...sheep wandering on the runway...

Paul... Wink

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Reply #28 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 7:35pm

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Moving vehicles in and around the airport - fuel trucks, steps, tugs etc. I doubt it will include them, but I'd gladly be told that I am wrong! Cheesy

well then be glad cause if i'm right, the review said that there would be

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I will bet thruppence that there will not be a free piano with every issue.

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I will bet thruppence that there will not be a free piano with every issue.

Oh yeah? well I bet there will! how do ya' like them apples? Grin

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Reply #31 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 8:08pm

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you think you would find keys to a 747... Roll Eyes

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I'd rather have the piano. Tongue

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Reply #33 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 10:00pm

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This thread is basically "What We want to see in fs10" just you post stuff that prolly wont make it. Kinda sill but anyway fs10 wont include a Concorde or a manual lol

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Reply #34 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 11:09pm

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This thread is basically "What We want to see in fs10" just you post stuff that prolly wont make it. Kinda sill but anyway fs10 wont include a Concorde or a manual lol

Almost, but no cigar ..

This thread is not intended to even HINT at things probable - On the other hand, I learned a long time ago to be careful of what you wish, since you might get it! (a lavatory dump valve comes to mind)

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Reply #35 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 10:03am

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I'm reasonably sure FSX will not include anything that would make it a real step ahead since FS98, beside better graphics. Sad

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or maybe a Red-Bull Pump straight into your blood and brains Tongue

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I'm reasonably sure FSX will not include anything that would make it a real step ahead since FS98, beside better graphics. Sad

i hope finally a Full Autoland system on default planes Roll Eyes

, and i hope they get rid of that bullshit of a CAT-2 ILS system in a Cessna 172 Grin

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i hope finally a Full Autoland system on default planes Roll Eyes

, and i hope they get rid of that bullshit of a CAT-2 ILS system in a Cessna 172 Grin

Everybody wants FS to get as realistic as it gets. Don't you think that an autoland system in a GA aircraft is a step in the opposite direction? Roll Eyes

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Reply #39 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 11:34am

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I think that the Russian mail-order-bride would be good, but we cannot count on it.
However, I would expect to see an improvement in the IFR navigation wourld; i.e. SID/STAR database, and for the turbine equipped aircraft a working FMS/FMC. There are a few 3rd party solution to these problems, but I have not seen anything yet for FS9 that will allow ATC to assign IFR SID/STAR routes without the player actually programming all the fixes in before the flight himself on the planning page.

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There are a few 3rd party solution to these problems, but I have not seen anything yet for FS9 that will allow ATC to assign IFR SID/STAR routes without the player actually programming all the fixes in before the flight himself on the planning page.

There is a solution, well in Alaska. Just follow the right rivers and hope you make the turn at the right inlet/outlet. If you know what you're doing while following a map, it will never fail you. Real IFR flying Grin

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Reply #41 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 12:03pm

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What? I think the jump from FS98 to FS2002 was impressive. The jump to FS2004 wasn't as dramatic, but how can you even begin to compare FS98 to FSX?

I think you are actually injecting a level of seriouisness into this thread?

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What? I think the jump from FS98 to FS2002 was impressive. The jump to FS2004 wasn't as dramatic, but how can you even begin to compare FS98 to FSX?

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beside better graphics.

Or do you have anything ot say about my considering the FS2004 (and by extention FSX) a better graphics sporting FS98?

And if so, care to explain where my say is wrong?

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Or do you have anything ot say about my considering the FS2004 (and by extention FSX) a better graphics sporting FS98?

And if so, care to explain where my say is wrong?

The meat of the flight simulation engine - flight dynamics - is much better than FS98. For the modeller, Microsoft, through the SDKs, has improved the ability to provide much more accurate flight dynamics for more types of planes.

I will agree that more airports, more navaids, could be added to FS98.

Pretty clouds, lightning effects, reflective textures, etc., yes, are "better graphics" - enchance the experience, but are not absolutely essential.

FS2000/2002/2004 are not just FS98 with pretty graphics (note that I toss in the visual model in this, since what the model looks like has nothing to do with how it flies). I think that the basic FS engine has been vastly improved over the versions.

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Reply #44 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 12:19pm

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FSX will not include Barbies new car.

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Reply #45 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 12:24pm

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I have FS98, I use even today it on my notebook.

I have FS2004, had 2002 and missed 2000 because had better things to do at the time (recovering from a near fatal accident, actually), and I use/have used them all.

I'll be damned to the lower pits of hell if I find a real difference in how the planes behave from a version to another.

I'm with you that the prettier graphic are nice, but they do not make the simulator.

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This is my opinion in the matter. No offence is meant to any of you reading.

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Reply #46 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 12:26pm

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What will FS not include? Hmmmm.....How about that irish dude who runs into the middle of sporting events wearing a kilt and wielding large pieces of cardboard that advertise religion. Yep, pretty sure hes not going to be running across the RW at KORD screeming at passengers.

Good one.

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Reply #47 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 1:00pm

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Probably allready mentioned but...

a] Landable buildings
b] car to drive cross country or from home to airport.
c] Usable Frequent Flyer miles with real world airline of choice.

Scotch

Ok Scotch can be item d]

Scotch out

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Reply #48 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 1:07pm

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FSX will not include Barbies new car.

I guess when she divorced Ken, he got the car? What remains for katahu to look for? Maybe, in a fit of nostalgia - "Project Barbie" ??

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Reply #49 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 1:07pm

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a] Landable buildings
b] car to drive cross country or from home to airport

A. Already have those
B. You can already download vehicles for FS9. Katahu has developed several nice sports cars for FS9 8)

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Reply #50 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 1:12pm

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I guess when she divorced Ken, he got the car

No, she got the car. Wink

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Reply #51 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 1:13pm

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I'll be damned to the lower pits of hell if I find a real difference in how the planes behave from a version to another.

I think you have just caused apoplectic convulsions among the die hard flight dynamicists, who argue that a .01% improvement in the flight dynamics is a major improvement.

Like you, I can't really determine how much of an improvement a specific model is (I guess we'd have to test the FS98 default Cessna vs its FS2004 version and how "close" they come to the official Cessna numbers)
but from the flight dynamics modelling standpoint.

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Reply #52 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 1:51pm

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FSX will not include Barbies new car.

Actually I think i'll be quite glad if it doesn't, but then again that wouldn't really be an improvement and only 6 year old girls and DIE HARD flight sim fans would buy FSX then. Grin

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Reply #53 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 3:35pm

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Actually I think i'll be quite glad if it doesn't, but then again that wouldn't really be an improvement and only 6 year old girls and DIE HARD flight sim fans would buy FSX then. Grin

So, you've placed your advance order, then?

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Reply #54 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 4:09pm

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I guess when she divorced Ken, he got the car?

No. When Barbie sued Ken she "Sued that b*stard for everything he owned."

But of course this is Barbies NEW car brought with the money she got from Ken from the divorce.

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Reply #55 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 6:12pm

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No. When Barbie sued Ken she "Sued that b*stard for everything he owned."

But of course this is Barbies NEW car brought with the money she got from Ken from the divorce.

I heard that she hired a very good PI. He managed to video Ken whilst cutting up some white powder with his Amex card as two hookers looked on.
Barbie took him to the cleaners.
Matt

PS I think that we had better be careful with this line of comments, you never know who is reading. As I said Mr Matell lawyer, I only heard Wink

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Reply #56 - Jan 7^th, 2006 at 6:41am

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I think you have just caused apoplectic convulsions among the die hard flight dynamicists, who argue that a .01% improvement in the flight dynamics is a major improvement.

They can have as many conniptions as they desire. Facts are and remain that NO real improvement in dynamycs has been done since FS98.

I can't say about previous versions' dynamycs, since it's been a while I used them and even after having downloaded them all from abandonware servers I still have to find a suitable PC on which run them (read: slow enough), but I know what I talk about regarding from FS98 to nowadays.

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Reply #57 - Jan 7^th, 2006 at 7:23am

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So, you've placed your advance order, then?

Yeah...I just CANT WAIT to get my hands on barbies new car!
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Reply #58 - Jan 11^th, 2006 at 8:51am

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How about being able to tell a co-pilot to land it so you cant crash in 1/16mi visibility, and while its landing go back to a seat and watch out the wing-view, with a glass of wine in your hand?

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Reply #59 - Jan 11^th, 2006 at 5:48pm

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Moving vehicles in and around the airport - fuel trucks, steps, tugs etc. I doubt it will include them, but I'd gladly be told that I am wrong! Cheesy

I was reading a review of this from PC Pilot. they are saying that there will be vehicles in this FS world. i wouldn't say that to fast. on that we need to wait and see Wink

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Reply #60 - Jan 11^th, 2006 at 5:52pm

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well then be glad cause if i'm right, the review said that there would be

like u said

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Reply #61 - Jan 11^th, 2006 at 6:11pm

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I was reading a review of this from PC Pilot. they are saying that there will be vehicles in this FS world. i wouldn't say that to fast. on that we need to wait and see Wink

I wouldn't be surprised if M$ did impliment that to FS. If you look at the screenshots, one of them clearly shows cars and trucks on the improved roadways. However, no one knows if they move like AI or not. Well, maybe not like AI, most likely macro based. I've seen one scenery addon that used macro for animated car traffic. I think I found it at AvSim. I'm not sure if it was for FS2k2 or FS9.

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Reply #62 - Jan 11^th, 2006 at 6:40pm

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I've seen one scenery addon that used macro for animated car traffic. .

I have one of those installed. It has a verry busy road just under the approach path to the single runway. It is an island airport if I remember correctly.

The visual impact of that stream of cars as you are son short final is AMAZING!!! It changes everything.

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Reply #63 - Jan 11^th, 2006 at 6:53pm

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looks like im on the money! 8)

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Reply #64 - Jan 11^th, 2006 at 11:22pm

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M$ is prolly reading this post going "ook at this list of thinks they are not expecting. That means we wont worry about including them." Grin

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Reply #65 - Jan 13^th, 2006 at 7:27am

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M$ is prolly reading this post going "ook at this list of thinks they are not expecting. That means we wont worry about including them." Grin

Was this true it would mean they'd somewhat care about what we think.

Past experiences tell me it doesn't work that way with them. Undecided

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Reply #66 - Jan 13^th, 2006 at 9:55am

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FSX won't include sex, drugs and Rock&roll! We'll have to include it ourself... again... when will they learn... they need Fozzer on the design team... Grin

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Reply #67 - Jan 13^th, 2006 at 10:37am

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Was this true it would mean they'd somewhat care about what we think.

Past experiences tell me it doesn't work that way with them. Undecided

You'd be surprised. I was surprised to see the FFDS site linked to from one of the tech bloggers from Microsoft. There has been at least one Simviation tutorial linked to/mentioned by the Microsoft tech bloggers

That they cannot answer/reveal (in detail) what they're really considering or not, and where they get the ideas from, is another matter.

We have all seen how Microsoft has re-emphasized the fact that they are committed to supporting 3rd party content providers. This allows them to concentrate on the basics+enhancements, instead of having to provide the details (cover all periods and types of planes, etc)

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Reply #68 - Jan 14^th, 2006 at 1:45am

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I think we are getting a bit ahead of ourselves here. How often has MicroSoft given details about a piece of software only to have it "changed" at the last minute. The promises that where bantered about for XP made the mouth water!! In comparison FSX, I would think is a relativly simple program (I may be wrong, I await the corrections that I am sure will come.). It will be very interesting to look back at what has been posted here a few days after the release of FSX and compare what was said and what we get.. Remember, MS said no more Blue Screen of Death with XP.............had it 3 times last week.

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