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Dec 13^th, 2005 at 4:31pm

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Very very impressive...

5.5L diesel V12 producing 650hp and 1100nm of torque.

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Reply #1 - Dec 13^th, 2005 at 7:05pm

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811 ft-lb for all who don't do nm

I heard that they were going to do a diesel, never believed it

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Reply #2 - Dec 14^th, 2005 at 2:23am

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Nice. Spoiler looks a bit of an afterthought in my opinion... 8)

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Reply #3 - Dec 14^th, 2005 at 2:36pm

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Why in the hell would you do a diesel race car? ???

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Reply #4 - Dec 14^th, 2005 at 2:50pm

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Why in the hell would you do a diesel race car? ???

Only thing I can think of is to increase the torque. Still seems crazy though.. Roll Eyes

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Reply #5 - Dec 14^th, 2005 at 3:01pm

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Why in the hell would you do a diesel race car? ???

Formula 1 will soon be switching to hybrid technology. Fuel cells and so on. Its about time motor-racing moved forward in new fuels.

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Reply #6 - Dec 14^th, 2005 at 6:47pm

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although racing a car with a 5k readline is not really great for fast tracks

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Reply #7 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 12:47pm

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Reply #8 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 3:00pm

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Formula 1 will soon be switching to hybrid technology. Fuel cells and so on. Its about time motor-racing moved forward in new fuels.

Using electric hybrids for racing has exciting possibilities: an electric motor yields 100% torque immediately! Fewer pit stops, too...
Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that...?

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Reply #9 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 6:58pm

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Using electric hybrids for racing has exciting possibilities: an electric motor yields 100% torque immediately! Fewer pit stops, too...
Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that...?

also a 17% weight increase

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Reply #10 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 7:11am

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"Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that..."
That would probably be the "Mac-It Special" from the CanAm days ... it never raced but did attempt to qualify a few times.
Getting 4 (as in FOUR!) Bombadeir snowmobile engines to run in harmony would be almost impossible! Roll Eyes

As for a Diesel .... well, tons of low down torque, a great showcase for diesel technology and at an event such as LM better fuel economy and the weight increase counts for nothing.

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Reply #11 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 7:26am

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"Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that..."

That would probably be the "Mac-It Special" from the CanAm days ... it never raced but did attempt to qualify a few times.
Getting 4 (as in FOUR!) Bombadeir snowmobile engines to run in harmony would be almost impossible! Roll Eyes

As for a Diesel .... well, tons of low down torque, a great showcase for diesel technology and at an event such as LM better fuel economy and the weight increase counts for nothing.
That aside, "Effwun" is being dumbed-down to the lower end of the food chain and will probably fall over soon .... the sooner the better IMHO!

And FWIW, a turbocharged Cummins Diesel bus engine in a Kurtis Kraft chassis was on pole position for the 1952 Indy 500, running at the front until it 'retired' (the internal Indy politics a rumoured to have been involved here!) with a clogged turbo intake.

Could I suggest that the Audi group will be flogging diesel powered civilian vehicles with a vengance very soon.
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Reply #12 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 8:09am

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"Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that..."
That would probably be the "Mac-It Special" from the CanAm days ... it never raced but did attempt to qualify a few times.
Getting 4 (as in FOUR!) Bombadeir snowmobile engines to run in harmony would be almost impossible! Roll Eyes

As for a Diesel .... well, tons of low down torque, a great showcase for diesel technology and at an event such as LM better fuel economy and the weight increase counts for nothing.

I meant four electric motors... Roll Eyes

in addition to a gasoline engine... hence the term "hybrid"...
Unfortunately, I can't find any info on it. What I remember hearing is that it was entered because there was no rule on the books against it, but it outclassed the rest of the pack so badly it was banned. I think it used a simple regenerative-braking system basically to add torque- lots of it- when passing.
As for the weight: not necessarily. You'd be adding weight (electric motors, batteries), but you'd be taking away weight also (smaller engine, less fuel).
The ideal hybrid would most likely have a high-efficiency diesel powerplant, for all the reasons mentioned above... and lower operating temps.

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Reply #13 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 7:53pm

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I meant four electric motors... Roll Eyes

in addition to a gasoline engine... hence the term "hybrid"...
Unfortunately, I can't find any info on it. What I remember hearing is that it was entered because there was no rule on the books against it, but it outclassed the rest of the pack so badly it was banned. I think it used a simple regenerative-braking system basically to add torque- lots of it- when passing.
As for the weight: not necessarily. You'd be adding weight (electric motors, batteries), but you'd be taking away weight also (smaller engine, less fuel).
The ideal hybrid would most likely have a high-efficiency diesel powerplant, for all the reasons mentioned above... and lower operating temps.

the physical components weigh more. i did a graduate paper on the subject several years ago

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Reply #14 - Dec 17^th, 2005 at 1:04pm

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An electric motor for racing?

Wow listen to those babies buzz lol.

I like my racing loud and dirty, leave the hybrids for the roads.

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Reply #15 - Dec 19^th, 2005 at 6:31pm

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I meant four electric motors... Roll Eyes

in addition to a gasoline engine... hence the term "hybrid"...
Unfortunately, I can't find any info on it. What I remember hearing is that it was entered because there was no rule on the books against it, but it outclassed the rest of the pack so badly it was banned. I think it used a simple regenerative-braking system basically to add torque- lots of it- when passing.

You're aren't thinking of ex McLaren magician Gordon Murray's "fancar" designed for Brabham in 1978 are you?

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Why in the hell would you do a diesel race car?

Because if it wins, the public will be deluged with "look how good our diesels are" adverts on TV, and the VW group would hope for an increase in diesel sales across all their brands...

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Reply #16 - Dec 21^st, 2005 at 9:39am

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Why in the hell would you do a diesel race car?

More economical. Grin

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Reply #17 - Dec 21^st, 2005 at 12:40pm

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More economical. Grin

More pollution! Grin

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Reply #18 - Dec 21^st, 2005 at 2:01pm

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Audi have been producing superb diesel engines for a while now, as have BMW & Mercedes.

I'd like to see that R10 in action, I think its more of a concept car than a reality- I'd like to be proved wrong however!

The output of that engine will make for a seriously quick car! I await its debut on the "Top Gear" test track.... Grin

The only "R" Series I'm interested in ,however, is my prospective new truck.... 8)

I'm looking to change job soon,my prospective employer has a new fleet of Scania "R Series" vehicles.

The 16-litre V8 Euro 4 engine produces 620 hp (456 kW) at 1900 r/min and 3000 Nm of torque between 1100 and 1400 r/min Shocked

I hope you guys realise the above truck is designed to pull weights of upto 180tonnes! consider , for a moment, the performance of that Audi with a power to weight ratio thats a tiny fraction of the truck.... Shocked

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