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Dec 13^th, 2005 at 4:31pm

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Very very impressive...

5.5L diesel V12 producing 650hp and 1100nm of torque.

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Reply #1 - Dec 13^th, 2005 at 7:05pm

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811 ft-lb for all who don't do nm

I heard that they were going to do a diesel, never believed it

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Reply #2 - Dec 14^th, 2005 at 2:23am

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Nice. Spoiler looks a bit of an afterthought in my opinion... 8)

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Reply #3 - Dec 14^th, 2005 at 2:36pm

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Why in the hell would you do a diesel race car? ???

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Reply #4 - Dec 14^th, 2005 at 2:50pm

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Why in the hell would you do a diesel race car? ???

Only thing I can think of is to increase the torque. Still seems crazy though.. Roll Eyes

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Reply #5 - Dec 14^th, 2005 at 3:01pm

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Why in the hell would you do a diesel race car? ???

Formula 1 will soon be switching to hybrid technology. Fuel cells and so on. Its about time motor-racing moved forward in new fuels.

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Reply #6 - Dec 14^th, 2005 at 6:47pm

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although racing a car with a 5k readline is not really great for fast tracks

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Reply #7 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 12:47pm

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Looks cool 8)

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Reply #8 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 3:00pm

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Formula 1 will soon be switching to hybrid technology. Fuel cells and so on. Its about time motor-racing moved forward in new fuels.

Using electric hybrids for racing has exciting possibilities: an electric motor yields 100% torque immediately! Fewer pit stops, too...
Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that...?

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Reply #9 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 6:58pm

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Using electric hybrids for racing has exciting possibilities: an electric motor yields 100% torque immediately! Fewer pit stops, too...
Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that...?

also a 17% weight increase

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Reply #10 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 7:11am

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"Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that..."
That would probably be the "Mac-It Special" from the CanAm days ... it never raced but did attempt to qualify a few times.
Getting 4 (as in FOUR!) Bombadeir snowmobile engines to run in harmony would be almost impossible! Roll Eyes

As for a Diesel .... well, tons of low down torque, a great showcase for diesel technology and at an event such as LM better fuel economy and the weight increase counts for nothing.

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Reply #11 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 7:26am

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"Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that..."

That would probably be the "Mac-It Special" from the CanAm days ... it never raced but did attempt to qualify a few times.
Getting 4 (as in FOUR!) Bombadeir snowmobile engines to run in harmony would be almost impossible! Roll Eyes

As for a Diesel .... well, tons of low down torque, a great showcase for diesel technology and at an event such as LM better fuel economy and the weight increase counts for nothing.
That aside, "Effwun" is being dumbed-down to the lower end of the food chain and will probably fall over soon .... the sooner the better IMHO!

And FWIW, a turbocharged Cummins Diesel bus engine in a Kurtis Kraft chassis was on pole position for the 1952 Indy 500, running at the front until it 'retired' (the internal Indy politics a rumoured to have been involved here!) with a clogged turbo intake.

Could I suggest that the Audi group will be flogging diesel powered civilian vehicles with a vengance very soon.
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Reply #12 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 8:09am

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"Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that..."
That would probably be the "Mac-It Special" from the CanAm days ... it never raced but did attempt to qualify a few times.
Getting 4 (as in FOUR!) Bombadeir snowmobile engines to run in harmony would be almost impossible! Roll Eyes

As for a Diesel .... well, tons of low down torque, a great showcase for diesel technology and at an event such as LM better fuel economy and the weight increase counts for nothing.

I meant four electric motors... Roll Eyes

in addition to a gasoline engine... hence the term "hybrid"...
Unfortunately, I can't find any info on it. What I remember hearing is that it was entered because there was no rule on the books against it, but it outclassed the rest of the pack so badly it was banned. I think it used a simple regenerative-braking system basically to add torque- lots of it- when passing.
As for the weight: not necessarily. You'd be adding weight (electric motors, batteries), but you'd be taking away weight also (smaller engine, less fuel).
The ideal hybrid would most likely have a high-efficiency diesel powerplant, for all the reasons mentioned above... and lower operating temps.

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Reply #13 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 7:53pm

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I meant four electric motors... Roll Eyes

in addition to a gasoline engine... hence the term "hybrid"...
Unfortunately, I can't find any info on it. What I remember hearing is that it was entered because there was no rule on the books against it, but it outclassed the rest of the pack so badly it was banned. I think it used a simple regenerative-braking system basically to add torque- lots of it- when passing.
As for the weight: not necessarily. You'd be adding weight (electric motors, batteries), but you'd be taking away weight also (smaller engine, less fuel).
The ideal hybrid would most likely have a high-efficiency diesel powerplant, for all the reasons mentioned above... and lower operating temps.

the physical components weigh more. i did a graduate paper on the subject several years ago

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Reply #14 - Dec 17^th, 2005 at 1:04pm

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An electric motor for racing?

Wow listen to those babies buzz lol.

I like my racing loud and dirty, leave the hybrids for the roads.

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