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Nov 27th, 2005 at 6:59am

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If we Westerners wanted to really sock it to the Mid East oil barons and our own oil companies we should stop changing the oil in our autos, especially at 3k miles when mfgs recommend usually 7500 or more.
Dumb, you say?
got the following over a radio auto guro (LIKIS) in Pensacola years ago. He, LIKIS, was picked up by ABC nationally w/auto talk show and sought for endorsments by major accessory manufacturers. Thi is his recommendation ... change the filter regularly and replace the lost oil, usually one qt (that's u.s., fozzer Smiley because motor oil doesn't "wear out" it simply gets dirty and distributes the dirt throughout the engine. so, get it clean initially and then CHANGE THE FILTER ONLY.

I'm doing just that w/my ford Ranger, 125k on it now.
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Reply #1 - Nov 27th, 2005 at 7:08am
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Changing oil every 3000 miles? This is ridiculous. The only thing you really have to do is filling the oil up every 7500 kilometres and maybe change the filter as you mentioned.

If you really want to save the oil companies a bit of hassle 'though, get anything else than a pickup or SUV.
 
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Reply #2 - Nov 27th, 2005 at 7:14am

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That may well be fine for your Ford Ranger, but, I still would advise against.

I change the oil & filter on my car every 5000Miles (inside the recommended mileage by quite a way) as my old 318i was still using NO oil @ 175,000miles when I sold it, I think I have the right idea.

I think you may well have This story
in mind ?

My truck, has new oil on average @ 55,000KM, as recommended by the manufacturer, Scania.

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The maintenance intervals for Scania trucks in long-haul operation can be extended from 45,000 to 60,000 km, as evidenced by experience from Scania’s field test and the first year of 4-series production. The longer intervals do not require the use of synthetic oil or automatic chassis lubrication.

In long-distance operation on good roads and at gross weights up to 40 tonnes, Scania now permits engine oil change intervals of up to 60,000 km and 120,000 km for gearboxes and rear axles. The engine oil should correspond to the ACEA specification valid from 1 January 1996. The extended intervals apply for Scania’s 12- and 14-litre engines which are the most common in long-haulage. The remainder of the maintenance programme is adapted accordingly.


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Reply #3 - Nov 27th, 2005 at 8:51pm

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I try and change my oil every 5000 miles or so in my car.  It is much better for the engine than simply changing the filter.  If the car is older and not that special/important than sure, its not as critical.  But, if keeping the motor in good shape is important to you, then you should change the oil AND filter about every 5000 miles.  Plus, its not that expensive.  A quart of normal (nonsynthetic) motor oil costs about $2 and most cars only use 4 of 5 quarts (some do use more, especially diesels) so thats about $10 for oil and probably $3 to $5 for a filter.  So, for $15 every 5000 miles (for me, probably twice a year-so $30 a year) it is worth it to me.

On the other hand, I run synthetic oil in my other car-and thats a little different.  I change it once a year (I probably put about 1000 miles on it a year).  It takes 6 quarters at about $5 each and I use a good $10 filter.  So, it can be a little more spendy than $15 sometimes.   Grin
 
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Reply #4 - Nov 28th, 2005 at 7:34am

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Just keep t the book...

PPO is a different story, as the stuff leaks through the seals into the oil, and sometimes takes crud from the fuel tank with it
 

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Reply #5 - Nov 28th, 2005 at 4:15pm

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OH CRAP! TOO LATE!  I JUST CHANGED MY OIL....... and radiator fluid
 

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Reply #6 - Nov 29th, 2005 at 1:15am

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If we Westerners wanted to really sock it to the Mid East oil barons and our own oil companies we should stop changing the oil in our autos, especially at 3k miles when mfgs recommend usually 7500 or more.
Dumb, you say?
got the following over a radio auto guro (LIKIS) in Pensacola years ago. He, LIKIS, was picked up by ABC nationally w/auto talk show and sought for endorsments by major accessory manufacturers. Thi is his recommendation ... change the filter regularly and replace the lost oil, usually one qt (that's u.s., fozzer Smiley because motor oil doesn't "wear out" it simply gets dirty and distributes the dirt throughout the engine. so, get it clean initially and then CHANGE THE FILTER ONLY.

I'm doing just that w/my ford Ranger, 125k on it now.
papa-metro usaf 1953-57



while i concede the point that it saves some money to change the oil at wider intervals, how much do you think it will cost the oil barons?
esp compared to fuel revenues

i'd say you can give them much more just driving your car so you get a mile further with the gallon
 

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Reply #7 - Nov 29th, 2005 at 9:47am

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You can always recycle your old oil by putting it in your fuel tank when you have an old landrover
 

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Reply #8 - Nov 29th, 2005 at 4:45pm

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You can always recycle your old oil by putting it in your fuel tank when you have an old landrover

This is a good prank for someone with a nice car.  Smoke everywhere. Wink
 

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Reply #9 - Jan 4th, 2006 at 1:52pm

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Changing oil every 3000 miles? This is ridiculous. The only thing you really have to do is filling the oil up every 7500 kilometres and maybe change the filter as you mentioned.

If you really want to save the oil companies a bit of hassle 'though, get anything else than a pickup or SUV.



you obviously dont care about your stuff...sickening

AND, if you take care of your vehicle, your ENGINE wont BURN oil...therefor you wont have to FILL it, but if you dont change your oil you are just a retard and don't deserve to drive a vehicle.

I change my oil every 2,000 miles, and will continue to do so because I am all about horsepower and having a GREAT engine.
 
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Reply #10 - Jan 4th, 2006 at 4:36pm

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AND, if you take care of your vehicle, your ENGINE wont BURN oil...therefor you wont have to FILL it, but if you dont change your oil you are just a retard and don't deserve to drive a vehicle.

Thats not true, even if you take great care of your engine-it will still eventually begin to burn oil.  Motors burn oil when they get worn because the cylinders are slowly worn larger-the rings on the pistons also begin to wear so the seal is not as good.  This will cause oil to leak pass the pistons and into the firing chamber and get burnt.  Now, if you change your oil regularly, it wear's slower.  So, changing your oil on a regular increases the lifetime of the motor and therefore won't begin to burn oil as fast.

On top of that, all motors (new and old) do burn a little oil.  Oil by nature is slippery (thats why its used to lubricate motors) so a tiny bit will leak past the rings and get burt even in a good healthy motor.  Of course, you only notice this if you go a long time without changing your oil (so enough to notice gets burned).

So, in the end, like Wind-Farmer said; changing your oil is important to do on a regular basis.  I try and change mine about every 5000 miles (or once a year, which ever comes first)
 
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Reply #11 - Jan 5th, 2006 at 6:03pm

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True they do burn a little, but not enough that you have to fill it ever "seven thousand" as some "people" say...

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Reply #12 - Jan 5th, 2006 at 10:22pm

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True they do burn a little, but not enough that you have to fill it ever "seven thousand" as some "people" say...

got to love white trash

Well, it depends on how worn the engine is.  If the engine is worn, you may have to add a quart of oil every few hundred miles.  Before I had my trucks engine rebuilt, it was burning a quart of oil every 100 miles (but adding oil was cheaper than a new motor).  

A good motor won't burn too much (although you may find it a little low after about 5000 miles) but an older motor will burn a fair amount if it is worn.
 
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Reply #13 - Jan 8th, 2006 at 10:04pm

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Well yes, older motors, but nvm I dont want to say anymore LOL...new motors are GOLDEN
 
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