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Oct 18
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, 2005 at 3:19pm
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Crew confusion found in Athens plane crash.
Paris -- The crew members of a Cypriot Helios Airways airliner that crashed Aug. 14 near Athens became confused by a series of alarms as the plane climbed, failing to recognize that the cabin was not pressurizing until they grew mentally disoriented because of lack of oxygen and passed out, according to several people connected with the investigation.
Complicating the cockpit confusion, neither the German pilot nor the young, inexperienced Cypriot co-pilot could speak the same language fluently, and each had difficulty understanding how the other spoke English, the worldwide language of air traffic control.
A total of 121 people were killed in the crash after the plane climbed and flew on autopilot, circling near Athens as it was programmed to do until one engine stopped running because of a lack of fuel. The sudden imbalance of power, with only one engine operating, caused the autopilot to disengage and the plane to begin its final descent.
The Greek authorities have made cryptic statements hinting at oxygen problems but have so far not announced the full findings of investigators.
The people interviewed for this article agreed to do so on condition that they not be identified because none are official spokesmen for the investigation and because of political sensitivities arising from a Cypriot plane crashing in Greece.
Investigators pieced together the story of the crash from numerous sources. In the wreckage, they found the first solid clues - the pressurization valve and an air outflow valve set incorrectly. Air traffic control tapes provided information on the confusion in the cockpit.
The plane had a sophisticated new flight data recorder that provided a wealth of information. There were maintenance records from the night before, and investigators interviewed the mechanics who worked on the plane.
Among other things, the investigators determined that the pilot was not in his seat because he was up trying to solve a problem that turned out to be not the greatest threat facing him.
The plane that crashed, a Boeing 737-300, underwent maintenance the night before. The maintenance crew apparently left a pressurization controller rotary knob out of place, according to the officials connected to the investigation, and the crew did not catch the mistake during preflight checks the next day. This meant that the plane could not pressurize.
At 10,000 feet, or 3,000 meters, as designed, an alarm went off to warn the crew that the plane would not pressurize. However, the crew members mistakenly thought that the alarm horn was a warning to tell them that their controls were not set properly for takeoff, the officials said.
The same horn is used for both conditions, although it will sound for takeoff configuration only while the plane is still on the ground.
The crew continued the climb on autopilot. At 14,000 feet, oxygen masks deployed as designed and a master caution light illuminated in the cockpit. Another alarm sounded at about the same time on an unrelated matter, warning that there was insufficient cooling air in the compartment housing avionics equipment.
The radio tapes showed that this created tremendous confusion in the cockpit. Normally an aircraft cabin is held at 8,000 feet pressure, so the crew at over 14,000 feet would already be experiencing some disorientation because of a lack of oxygen.
During this time, the German captain and the Cypriot co-pilot discovered they had no common language and that their English, while good enough for normal air traffic control purposes, was not good enough for complicated technical conversation in fixing the problem.
The crew members called the maintenance base in Cyprus and were told that the circuit breaker to turn off the loud new alarm was in a cabinet behind the captain. The captain got up from his seat to look for the circuit breaker, apparently ignoring the confused co-pilot.
As the plane continued to climb on autopilot, the air grew so thin that the crew became seriously impaired. The captain passed out first on the floor of the cockpit, followed by the co-pilot, who remained in his seat, according to the officials.
The autopilot did as it was programmed to do, flying the plane at 34,000 feet to Athens and entering a holding pattern. It remained in a long circling pattern, shadowed by Greek military jets, until fuel ran low and one engine quit.
Boeing, the maker of the plane, sent a notice shortly after the crash to airlines that it would revise flight crew training manuals to stress to crews that they must understand how the various warning systems work and what to do about them.
The notice stresses that the takeoff configuration warning horn will not sound under any circumstances after the plane has left the ground.
The same horn will then be used only for a cabin altitude warning. The company notice said there had been other instances of confusion over the horn by pilots.
"Confusion between the cabin altitude warning horn and the takeoff configuration warning horn can be re-solved if the crew remembers that the takeoff configuration warning horn is only armed when the airplane is on the ground," the notice said. "If this horn is activated in flight, it indicates that the cabin altitude has reached 10,000 feet."
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Oct 18
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I knew it was too weird to have not involved any pilot error-such tragic circumstances, had they even spoken the same language fluently this may have been averted.
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The people interviewed for this article agreed to do so on condition that they not be identified because none are official spokesmen for the investigation and because of political sensitivities arising from a Cypriot plane crashing in Greece.
What I would like to know is why these people feel entitled to break confidentiality by leaking this information to a newspaper or other news service before the official report has been published. This is becoming very common now & personally I think it's out of order. If the information is from an anonymous source how do we know that's it's accurate or reliable?
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I don't know the validity of the report, but here is the link....
http://www.airdisaster.com/news/0905/08/news.shtml
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No offence but no matter where it's published anonymous statements aren't worth the paper they're printed on in my book.
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Oct 19
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The whole crash is a mystery to me. The captain formerly flew for the Interflug, and that airline had the best trained pilots of maybe the whole world.
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I still don't understand how these mighty machines, given this report is correct, depend on such weak systems as a knob that takes out the whole pressurisation-system. I remember another case, in wich maintenance had taped of the pilot-tube openings with tape, to protect the instruments from cleaning. They forgot to remove the tape. During the flight the instruments gave false readings wich produced a stall warning, though the airspeed seemed to be ok and false alltitude reading even though the autopilot was set for a climb. These contradictory facts puzzled the crew, they couldn't solve the problems and the plane crashed...
all because of a piece of plastic tape... missed by maintenance and during the pre-flight check-ups.
And why o why would they use the same warning-tone for 2 different failures? At least change the interval or something, or the tone, that can't be to hard now can it...
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I remember that Kris!
Altitude and speed could not be determined and basically the plane stalled all because the paint had been repainted and maintenance forgot to remove the tape that was on the tips of the devices for recording these readings.
Sad to say that a few pieces of small duct tape took down a huge airliner......
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all because of a piece of plastic tape... missed by maintenance and during the pre-flight check-ups.
An unfortunate combination of errors, like most 'accidents'. It should never have got this far if correct inspection procedures had been followed but we all make mistakes especially when in a hurry. Most jobs on anything to do with aircraft are wanted yesterday, if not sooner, which is the reason for my motto in my sig which I used throughout my career. This goes to show just how important those pre-flight walkarounds are. I suspect that if the captain had done that properly instead of the usual cursory walk round or making someone else do it for him it would never have happened.
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Offcourse every-one knows I meant pitot-tubes when i wrote pilot-tubes...
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I remember literally gasping out loud when I read that story a while back Kris. Covering the pitot tubes on a 747-absolutely disastrous results.
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Somebody please explane to me how 2 experienced pilots can just ignore an alarm? ???
Something still needs to be cleared up...
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Somebody please explane to me how 2 experienced pilots can just ignore an alarm? ???
Something still needs to be cleared up...
I daresay it will be cleared up when the investigation report is published. That's if people are prepared to wait for it instead of coming to wild conclusions based on anonymous reports from goodness knows where.
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Somebody please explane to me how 2 experienced pilots can just ignore an alarm? ???
Something still needs to be cleared up...
They didn't ignore it, they misunderstood it. Read the article a little more carefully
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