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Oct 14th, 2005 at 5:21am

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I saw a reality show on the daily events in her Majesties Royal Horseguard yesterday. Brilliant stuff... espesially the part where the "modern" guard took a armored car to a test-range, screw up the naviagtion and end up in the middle of a towncenter. The faces of the bystanders were priceless, as was the bruised ego of the commander! lol!  Grin

Anyway, my question is this one. The Horseguard at Buckingham-palace look all nice and diciplined, but would they be able to intervene in case of problems. Those ceremonial costumes don't look practical at all. So do they actually guard the palace and queen, or are they just a ceremonial artefact from the past?

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Reply #1 - Oct 14th, 2005 at 6:34am

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Well considering the Cavalry used to go to war dressed like that I'm sure they could intervine. You may notice that the Guard that don't have horses are actually equipped with SA80's with fixed bayonets. Which would make them more than capable of intervention. Grin
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 14th, 2005 at 7:59am

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well, look at the pope's guard. they may look funny in their tights, but they're well trained and i have no doubt they got modern weapons as well.
 
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Reply #3 - Oct 14th, 2005 at 9:08am

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I always assumed the "real" guards, the armed ones, patrolled somewhere behind these guys, inside the buildings.
 
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Reply #4 - Oct 14th, 2005 at 9:59am

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The guys in all the garb are purely ceremonial the guys with the guns are the ones you really have to worry about.
 
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Reply #5 - Oct 14th, 2005 at 10:26am

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Beware of what you don't see ....   But just in case, I'm not tempted to go against  a freakin' horse that weighs more than I do ... (sigh, probably not that much more) and a guy with a sword.  The sword may be "blunt" as far as fighting weapons go, but it can still give a good headache!

As for the Swiss guards ...  They are well trained, and when in ceremonial garb, they still know how to use those pikes.
 
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Reply #6 - Oct 14th, 2005 at 5:54pm

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When people ask if the "Ceremonial" guard are of any practical use I remind myself that empires were built by people using those "archaic" weapons.

That sword may be dull...but in the hands of a man on horseback it is still a deadly weapon. Smiley Just because we are prejudiced in favour of things that go bang doesn't mean that the hiss of striking steel is any less deadly than it ever was!

I drilled once with a ceremonial sword of the Canadian Armed Forces. It was an old drill sword and a little beaten up. The beautiful chrome finish had flaked off in a couple of places and underneath you could see the characteristic pattern of Damascus Steel. Shocked
 
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Reply #7 - Oct 14th, 2005 at 8:20pm

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I seem to remember one of the ceremonial guards tackliing a man he thought was armed & getting too close to the Queen some time ago. It was in all the papers & he became an instant hero.. This wasn't a Horseguard but one the Guard regiments that wear bearskins. They might be ceremonial but these are members of the regular Army & don't mess around.
 
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Reply #8 - Oct 19th, 2005 at 4:08am
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Quite evidently they'd nail all the tribespeople at Aden.


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Reply #9 - Oct 19th, 2005 at 5:13am

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That sword may be dull...but in the hands of a man on horseback it is still a deadly weapon. Smiley Just because we are prejudiced in favour of things that go bang doesn't mean that the hiss of striking steel is any less deadly than it ever was!

i'd say them coates have enough room to under them to strap a holster too.
and yes, them people didn't get to sit on the horse or stand beside the gate because they look good in that uniform
 
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Reply #10 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 3:59pm

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Quite evidently they'd nail all the tribespeople at Aden.


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Reply #11 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 5:01pm

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i'd say them coates have enough room to under them to strap a holster too.
and yes, them people didn't get to sit on the horse or stand beside the gate because they look good in that uniform

No firearms. Those brestplates couldn't hide anything and a holster would show. It's amazing to think that that is what the cavalry was wearing when charging the French at Waterloo.
 
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No firearms. Those brestplates couldn't hide anything and a holster would show. It's amazing to think that that is what the cavalry was wearing when charging the French at Waterloo.


well, the polish cavalry charged against german tanks as recent as 1939, throwing molotov cocktails and using them sabers on infantry
 
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Reply #13 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 6:32pm

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well, the polish cavalry charged against german tanks as recent as 1939, throwing molotov cocktails and using them sabers on infantry

I know. But they wern't wearing polished breast plates and helmets with plumage.
 
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Reply #14 - Oct 21st, 2005 at 2:39am

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I know. But they weren't wearing polished breast plates and helmets with plumage.
Actually, they had Polish breasts 8)... but any helmet plumage may have been a result of more explosive technology Cry.
 
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