Simviation Forum - Multiplayer 13/10/05

Reply #30 - Oct 17^th, 2005 at 8:48am

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Paul ............ you'll need to alter your FS9.cfg ........ Find the setting for terrain_max_vertex change the value to 21, if you haven't already done so.

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Reply #31 - Oct 17^th, 2005 at 8:49am

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I think I have to agree with you Paul, though it is better than the default scenery at least. Perhaps Holger Sandmann could have a go at the UK! He's produced some great meshes for North America.

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Reply #32 - Oct 17^th, 2005 at 8:50am

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Paul ............ you'll need to alter your FS9.cfg ........ Find the setting for terrain_max_vertex change the value to 21, if you haven't already done so.

Maybe I should do that too then!

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Reply #33 - Oct 17^th, 2005 at 9:09am

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You saw my shots from the multiplayer...... get the FSGenesis mesh for the UK. Yes it is payware... but it DOES make a difference. That single one might be $10-15....if I am remembering correctly.

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/UKhop2a.jpg

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Reply #34 - Oct 17^th, 2005 at 9:15am

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Paul ............ you'll need to alter your FS9.cfg ........ Find the setting for terrain_max_vertex change the value to 21, if you haven't already done so.

Hi eno...!

Thanks for the tip.... Wink

...!

It has certainly lifted the hills up, somewhat....
...but still looks nuffin' like my surrounding rolling countryside as viewed from the cockpit of my real Cessna 152... Cry

...!
...and the Welsh mountains are still pretty flat, from what I know of them...
...but it is an improvement...

Cheers eno...!

Paul... 8)...!

(I wonder what "terrain_max_vertex = 50" would look like....the Alps...?)... Grin

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Reply #35 - Oct 17^th, 2005 at 10:30am

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(I wonder what "terrain_max_vertex = 50" would look like....the Alps...?)... Grin

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LOL...!

That's something you can try!

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Reply #36 - Oct 17^th, 2005 at 10:50am

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I think 21 is the highest that fs2004 recognizes. I THINK the range is 19 to 21.

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Reply #37 - Oct 17^th, 2005 at 11:02am

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I think 21 is the highest that fs2004 recognizes. I THINK the range is 19 to 21.

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Yeah, mine was set to 19. Though it didn't seem to make much difference...

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Reply #38 - Oct 17^th, 2005 at 1:13pm

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It only makles a difference if the mesh is of a higher resolution than the "default" that M$ put in.

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Reply #39 - Oct 17^th, 2005 at 5:30pm

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And what is the default resolution?

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Reply #40 - Oct 18^th, 2005 at 5:48am

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Hi Tweek...!

The default resolution is "19".
After installing any of this this mesh, it is recommended changing it to "21"

http://www.simviation.com/fsdterrainsrtm.htm

Have a peek at the "readme" file... Wink

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Changing the number to 21 seems to accentuate parts of the land heights slightly, (hills are higher, and peakier!)...!

For one of the highest "default" resolutions, (37m), in the sim, pop over to Catalina Island off the coast of Los Angeles... 8)...!

Cheers Mate...!

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Reply #41 - Oct 18^th, 2005 at 9:57am

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Here is an explanation about the default Microsoft terrain mesh taken (under "Fair Use") from the FSGenesis website:

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Terrain Mesh is the shape of the ground in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000/2002/2004. It is compiled by FSGenesis using real world data in the form of Digital Elevation Models (DEMs) from the United States Geological Survey (USGS) and Natural Resources Canada (NRC), Centre for Topographic Information.
The default terrain mesh covering most of the world is 1223m horizontal resolution, that is, 1223m between elevation points. There are small areas of the Japan and the south Pacific, including Papua New Guinea, with 76.4m terrain. Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa is done in 76.4m.

The default terrain mesh covering the United States is generally 611.5m horizontal resolution, that is, 611.5m between elevation points. Small areas of the western United States are done in 153.2m, as well as the entire Caribbean. The Grand Canyon, Hawaii, Mount Rainier, Yosemite, and Catalina Island are done in 76.4m.

Some of the FSGenesis payware terrain mesh is data from down to 9.6m resolution.....places like the Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, Jackson Hole and the Tetons, Hawaii, and so on. I'll post a shot or two below in a few minutes.

Hawaii

Jackson Hole

Black Hills

Devil's Tower

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Reply #42 - Oct 18^th, 2005 at 2:49pm

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One thing I did notice...>>>
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Find and open up FS2004.CFG file in NOTEPAD and scroll down until you find the [TERRAIN] section. Edit this line shown below to read as I have it here: [TERRAIN] TERRAIN_MAX_VERTEX_LEVEL=21 Leave all other entries under [TERRAIN] alone. Save your changes to FS2004.CFG, and close Notepad.
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after changing the value from 19 to 21, the rivers and streams now have "proper" banks, ie, they are now sunk into the ground, as they should be... 8)...!

(The roads where they pass over them, also sink down into them...but a small price to pay...)... Wink

...!

Paul....paddling in a stream somewhere near you... Grin

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Reply #43 - Oct 18^th, 2005 at 3:17pm

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The roads where they pass over them, also sink down into them...

That's why we are flying, not driving.

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Reply #44 - Oct 18^th, 2005 at 3:37pm

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John...
In this thread I get the feeling that we are attached to each other by a short piece of string... Wink

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LOL...!
Paul....

Hang on tight while I leap across these newly-found sunken streams on my motor-bike... 8)...!
LOL... Grin

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