Simviation Forum - Gmax is dead

Oct 8^th, 2005 at 3:28am

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As of Thursday, discreet has decided to stop offering Gmax as a stand-alone product. Nearest thing is now 3ds Max. Also, discreet has bought out competitor Maya...

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Reply #1 - Oct 8^th, 2005 at 8:50am

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This is really old news.

For almost a year (well, maybe since the beginning of this year at least), discreet had sent over to TurboSquid all support and downloads.

HOWEVER - all this means is that gmax will not be "updated".

gmax is a modelling program. By itself it does nothing.

For the flightsimmer, it remains a powerful modelling program.

It remains to be seen whether Microsoft will develop a gmax converter that will work for future FS versions.

gmax' viablity (or any "low end" modelling program's) to work with Fligth Simulator depends on the direction Microsoft takes.

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Reply #2 - Oct 8^th, 2005 at 9:36am

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heheh really old news ,mate...
it think is not dead... its just having fun / no estaba muerto estaba de parranda

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Reply #3 - Oct 13^th, 2005 at 6:41am

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I sure hope gmax isn't dead because i cant buy any other aircraft designer program and i just learn't how to use gmax also gmax is a really really good program.

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Reply #4 - Oct 13^th, 2005 at 10:41am

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gmax is a really really good program

Gmax is a good program for game design, but that seems to be its limitation. I am currently (when I have the time) attempting to create a short movie sequence using the prog, but I don't know if it will work, or if it will even be worth the effort.

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Reply #5 - Oct 13^th, 2005 at 11:27am

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At TurboSquid, they're talking with Discreet/Autodesk to see what really ìs going on.

As of my reading their gmax support forum yesterday, they had not posted anything definitive.

Anything we can say, until an official word comes down from "on high" is pure speculation (but it sure is fun coming up with the "what ifs"!)

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Reply #6 - Oct 13^th, 2005 at 11:49am

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@Locke
Gmax can´t render ! So you won´t be able to output a movie.
They even disabled the viewport preview. So the only
way to get
a movie from gmax is to screenshot every frame and
make a image sequence of it. You could also capture your screen.. but than your animation will not run
synchronous.

In general I think it might be worth to ask autodesk
if it would be possible (as final act) to open gmax to the max4 plugins. This shouldn´t be a to big problem probabely just a switch that has to be unlocked.
There are hundreds of usefull plugins available
at www.maxplugins.de (like procedural wing objects
for example). This could enhance gmax significantly.
Maybe if enough people are screaming the will hear us.

You can also enhance your gmax by using scripts.
The biggest 3dsmax script ressource is
www.scriptspot.com
gmax is able to use max4 scripts. Scripts that are labeled
max 5 or above might work as well just test it.

A very good script for max 4 is "Meshtools". This enhances
max4/gmax with polygon editing tools similar to the tools
know included in the later max versions !

you can download it here
http://www.scriptspot.com/scripts/web_upload/Meshtools_2_5.zip

(After installing this script you´ll need to go to /customize/
customize user interface/toolbars/. Creat a new toolbar.
On the left switch the "category" to "Meshtools" and drag and drop the different tools into your toolbar)

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Reply #7 - Oct 13^th, 2005 at 5:40pm

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And it's official:

From the TurboSquid forums

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Gmax End of Life announcement
Oct 13, 2005 9:54:27 AM

Dear Gmax users,
I am here today to inform you that Autodesk has officially decided to end its support for the Gmax product and that their company has stopped support for it effective October 6th.

Since Turbo Squid is a valuable partner for Autodesk and we've been managing the product and community on their behalf for the past year, they've allowed us to continue to offer the Gmax download until November 1st so that we can effectively manage the transition for this now defunct product. At that point, the ability to download Gmax from our site will be removed as will the ability for users to get authorization codes for the product.

These forums will continue to operate for the community for a small period of time beyond that date, and we'll be happy to try and assist the community during that time.

Respectfully,

-=Beau

Beau Perschall
VP of Publishing
Turbo Squid, Inc.

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Reply #8 - Oct 13^th, 2005 at 5:51pm

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well... what are we suposse to do with the models made in gmax? goosh ill switch to 3dmax. but, the ask is about WHAT are we gonna do with obsolete models by the way?

TOTALLY PANIC...

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Reply #9 - Oct 13^th, 2005 at 6:01pm

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All is not lost - if you have gmax, great. It is still "the" modelling program for FS2004.

The only question is,. again, what will Microsoft do for the future?

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Reply #10 - Oct 14^th, 2005 at 11:09am

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well, thats right .. they should come whit something identical to gmax, or plugins for 3dsmax (i havent checked if gamepacks works with 3ds), we'll see it with the new FS10 (wich no one knows nothing about it) XD ...meanwhile ill keep on gmaxing!!!

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Reply #11 - Oct 14^th, 2005 at 12:45pm

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*Katahu rushes to back up the Gmax installation file*

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Reply #12 - Oct 14^th, 2005 at 3:21pm

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* goshh! gotta go !!! ( grabs nervously a blank CD and runs)

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Reply #13 - Oct 14^th, 2005 at 3:25pm

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All is not lost - if you have gmax, great. It is still "the" modelling program for FS2004.

The only question is,. again, what will Microsoft do for the future?

Sounds to me as though another "rework" is in progress, like what they did with CFS3.

May their bums fall off from jungle rot, if that's true . . . Roll Eyes

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Reply #14 - Oct 14^th, 2005 at 3:46pm

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Sounds to me as though another "rework" is in progress, like what they did with CFS3.

May their bums fall off from jungle rot, if that's true . . . Roll Eyes

Just remember, in this case your anger is misdirected - Microsoft has nothing to do with gmax - this is a discreet/Autodesk product.

Microsoft got caught, along with other gamepack developers, in a pinch.

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