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Oct 3rd, 2005 at 5:30pm

beefhole   Offline
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I have my first solo x-country next weekend.  I'll be flying down to Wildwood (Cape May), routed over VAY to avoid the Philly class B.  I have, to date, 8.8 xcountry hours.  Well, I'm, just not the greatest at the whole VFR xcountry thing, so I'm glad there's GPS onboard Grin (just in case I mean)

How'd everybody else's first solo xcountry go?
 
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Reply #1 - Oct 3rd, 2005 at 7:14pm

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Not bad, until I the storms came between me and my home airport on my last leg, not to mention the fact that I was paying too much attention to the acrobatic airplanes waiting to take off while I was landing at the last airport to realize I was landing with the wind instead of into it, finally realized it while I watched the runway just keep floating by beneath me. Tongue Roll Eyes Grin

But you'll do fine, and if not, we won't hear about it. Lips Sealed Undecided Grin Wink

Just kidding, it still is one of my best memories from flight training, being out alone for the first time, watching towns and everything just sliding beneath you, it's really great.

Good Luck! Cheesy
 

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Reply #2 - Oct 3rd, 2005 at 9:04pm

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My solo cross countries were pretty fun!  There is nothing better than kicking your instructor out of the aircraft while you can enjoy the scenery!  Grin  On my first one, my instructor went out of town, to a place I was flying to.  Once I was in their vicinity, the tower there told me that my instructor said "dont forget to close off my flight plan."  Was kinda cool!  After exploring various towns on my own, and finally heading back, it was great and cozy seeing my home town appear right in my views, its awesome. 

Anyways, im sure you will have fun!  If you can flight plan properly, chances are, if you fly your calculated track from start to finished, you will be absolutely amazed how easy it is to navigate!  Take your time, clear your mind, remember the whole aircraft is yours for the trip and your in charge! Wink
 

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Reply #3 - Oct 4th, 2005 at 3:33am

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I can't really remember it that well other than I saw a pair of F-15s just before cutting it short due to weather, and having to wander back between the clouds at 1500ft. Thankfully I knew the area very well so the free nav wasn't a problem.
 
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Reply #4 - Oct 4th, 2005 at 3:33pm

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Hands down, my solo cross country was the best moment of my flight training!  (well, first solo aside  Grin)

Seriously, it was a wonderful experience.  Between tackling controlled and uncontrolled airports I flew up into northern Ontario and got to see some fantastic lakes and hundreds of thousands of miles of forested lands - just gorgeous!  I'd hate to think where I would have landed had my engine conked, but it sure looked pretty XD.  It was nice to get to really work with the FSS along the route and get into position report habits, opening/closing flight plans, checking weather, yadda yadda.

EXCELLENT practice for working on pilotage skills!  At that point I hadn't been taught how to use any radio aids yet, so the whole thing was entirely flown based on chart skills.  I'm the opposite - I LOVE flying by chart and dead reckoning and hate using a GPS (which wasn't installed in the 150 I was flying anyway XD), so I had a ball.  Mind you, on the last leg back I ran into horrible turbulence and stabbed myself good in the thigh with my mechanical pencil as I was marking my time and revised ETA over a checkpoint - suffice to say, no more mechanical pencils in the cockpit for a while  Grin.

It felt great to finally get a good long trip under my belt alone, without my instructor along.  Your confidence really climbs after you tackle all of the planning, radio work, navigation, traffic sighting, spacing, etc without that extra person in the right hand seat to turn to if you're uncertain or have a question - now you're solving everything that crops up all by yourself based on your training and study up to that point, and that just feels good Smiley.

And if the weather is nice and you have a scenic route picked out, you get a great view along the way! Cheesy

Good luck, I hope it goes well!
 
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Reply #5 - Oct 4th, 2005 at 7:14pm

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I'm the opposite - I LOVE flying by chart and dead reckoning and hate using a GPS

I love flying by the chart too, I'm just no good at it Grin
 
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Reply #6 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 2:04am

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Have faith beefhole, have faith!  Fly the track and make it back!  Grin
 

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Reply #7 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 4:22am

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so I'm glad there's GPS onboard

Undecided

Only use GPS as a backup, don't rely on it or it might cost you your life. Seriously!
 
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Reply #8 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 5:59am

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You know that inless your chart is wgs-84 then it could be as much as half a mile out of sync with a gps position.
 

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Reply #9 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 12:23pm

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Only use GPS as a backup, don't rely on it or it might cost you your life. Seriously!

It's broken twice, in flight, since I've been training.  I KNOW.  I'm not that type of pilot.

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You know that inless your chart is wgs-84 then it could be as much as half a mile out of sync with a gps position.

But the GPS position isn't out of sync with the airports Wink

Thanks for the encouragement guys Smiley
 
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Reply #10 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 1:58pm

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But the GPS position isn't out of sync with the airports Wink


Don't get what you mean there. But if a chart hasn't been gps confirmed then everything on it could be half a mile out. But as it's difficult to get a non wgs-84 chart these days I don't think you need worry. Grin Wink
 

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Reply #11 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 2:57pm

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Don't get what you mean there. But if a chart hasn't been gps confirmed then everything on it could be half a mile out. But as it's difficult to get a non wgs-84 chart these days I don't think you need worry. Grin Wink

Basically, a direct line from airport to airport is the exact same on my chart as it is on my GPS.  There is only one way to go straight to something.  If the GPS brings you straight to an airport, and not a half mile off, then therefore it must be in sync with the map.  And I know the GPS is accurate, I've used it on several flights.  Not like I'll be using it as my primary navigation.
 
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Reply #12 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 3:14pm
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Good luck Brendon, in a few years I'll be doing the same thing... Wink

Ben 8)
 
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Reply #13 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 3:28pm

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  You'll like Wildwood- make sure you have time to check out the museum while you're there.
  Don't get a psych on about your pilotage skills, you'll get the hang of it after a few more x-cs, I bet.  It's hard to use the chart on short flights close to home, sometimes... on my recent BFR, I had a hell of a time at one point getting oriented; no significant landmarks nearby, except the home airport (!), which I couldn't see because it was under us...as I circled and fumbled with the chart... Grin
  That's where ded. reckoning comes in. If you plan very carefully beforehand with a nav log showing ETAs for reliable landmarks about 20 miles apart or so, you should do fine. I've also learned to plan to fly abeam airports and other small landmarks- too easy to not know your time of passage because you can't see the thing under the nose.
  Of course, you should also remember your lost procedures, which includes calling ATC and admitting you're a noob and you're lost, if necessary. They'll be happy to help and won't laugh at you- not on the air, anyway... Grin
Another thing about learning DR and pilotage: by all means use navaids as part of it. I'll often use a radial with a visual landmark ("OK, that's the river, but which part?"); that and NDB bearings and DME info. help you learn how to follow that line on the chart without "cheating", that is, flying from navaid to navaid.
So plan carefully, fly the trip in the sim, then go have a great time!
  And watch out for A-220... I don't know what they do in there, but I avoid it.
 

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Reply #14 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 3:36pm

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Thanks Rotty, I've been told I may use VORs (not like they'd know anyway Grin).  I've been to Wildwood before, but only a quick touch and go.  I doubt I'll have time to get out this time around either, the 172s at Wings are generally booked solid. Roll Eyes

I have more x-country time under my belt than your average student before they go solo x-country, so I expect it to go smoothly Smiley
 
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