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Sep 27th, 2005 at 11:20am

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Today 175 years ago, separist troops forced the Dutch governemental army to retreat after several days of heavy fighting around the warande-park in Brussels. It was the start of the separation of the low-lands and the birth of Belgium.

Thank God, if this hadn't happend, chocolat, waffles and fries would have been a Dutch specialty...   Grin

Long live the Belgians!


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Reply #1 - Sep 27th, 2005 at 11:49am

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I've read that Belgium was at times fought over by the French, Spanish, English, and <bleep> knows who else..

When was "Belgium" as a specific, independent country established?

(In the same way that "Germany" as a unified nation did not come into actual being until the latter part of the 19th century)
 

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Reply #2 - Sep 27th, 2005 at 12:25pm

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Well done Omag old chap. I always knew that Belgium must be famous for something besides Brussels sprouts. Tongue Cheesy

I went to school with a chap from Belgium. I think his mother came from your country. He told me that there are various languages spoken depending on the region, rather like Switzerland I suppose. One of them is Walloon which I believe is a minority language still spoken in some regions but I forget which one was his natural tongue.
 

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Reply #3 - Sep 27th, 2005 at 12:28pm
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And if we were to believe Dutch jokes the Average IQ would go down by fifty points at least..... Tongue  Wink And you Belgians would have more money because you would be as Cheap-assed as us Grin +You would be ruled over by Harry....Ow well you know who I'm talking about..

So...an honest Congratulations Kris Grin
 
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Reply #4 - Sep 27th, 2005 at 12:37pm

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Let us be honest here, the reason so many countries have fought over Belgium is because armies are run by men, and the Stella Artois brewery is in Belgium Grin Grin Grin Grin
 

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Reply #5 - Sep 27th, 2005 at 1:50pm
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Really? I thought it was because they wanted to Visit a proper country like Holland and Belgium was in the way.... Grin

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Reply #6 - Sep 27th, 2005 at 2:13pm

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I've read that Belgium was at times fought over by the French, Spanish, English, and <bleep> knows who else..

When was "Belgium" as a specific, independent country established?


Bleep could very well be replaced by Björn, cause the Germans showed some interest, twice! Lol! As did the Austrians, Romans, Vikings, etc…

Belgium was founded 175 years ago, in 1830, as a result of the separation fights earlier mentioned in this thread. It’s a big deal around here at the moment…

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He told me that there are various languages spoken depending on the region, rather like Switzerland I suppose. One of them is Walloon which I believe is a minority language still spoken in some regions but I forget which one was his natural tongue.


Doug, Doug, for once not too well informed ( yes, I’m gloating, this doesn’t happen to often I can say that about you!).

There are three official languages.

Dutch – spoken in Flanders, roughly the northern part of the country, if you divide it from the channel to germany.

French – spoken in Wallonie – the southern part, about the same size as Flanders

German – spoken in the most eastern part of Belgium, an area reclaimed after one of the wars if I’m correct. They are a minority, but it still is an official language, which I like…

But then we have a wicked governmental system involving 6 (!) administrations and some hot-spot area’s where language-groups tend to collide… Yep, Belgium, not the most uniform country in the world. But that’s what makes us special.

And Souichiro? We love you guys! Grin

 

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Reply #7 - Sep 27th, 2005 at 2:28pm
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German – spoken in the most eastern part of Belgium, an area reclaimed after one of the wars if I’m correct. They are a minority, but it still is an official language, which I like…


*Adds "Part of Belgium" to his "Has to be taken back" list*
 
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Reply #8 - Sep 27th, 2005 at 2:37pm

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Doug, Doug, for once not too well informed ( yes, I&#8217;m gloating, this doesn&#8217;t happen to often I can say that about you!).

Well, I do my best but can't be expected to know everything. Roll Eyes I learn something new every day. That's why I brought the subject up. Who better to ask than my old mate Omag who actually lives in this strange place. Tongue Grin

I'm going from a rapidly failing memory of what this chap told me over 50 years ago. I also checked it out on Google before I mentioned it here. Maybe I know more about this than you think. 8) Cheesy
http://www.wallonie.com/wallang/
 

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Reply #9 - Sep 27th, 2005 at 4:07pm

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Let us be honest here, the reason so many countries have fought over Belgium is because armies are run by men, and the Stella Artois brewery is in Belgium Grin Grin Grin Grin


Then why does it say

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on my Stellas?

Having said that, Kronenbourg 1664 is brewed in Scotland...
 
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Reply #10 - Sep 28th, 2005 at 8:35am

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Cause the lazy gits can't be bothered to export it.

And now I'm wondering, how does real, belgian Stella differ from the stuff we get?

I'm gonna have to go to belgium...
 

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Reply #11 - Sep 28th, 2005 at 12:10pm

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It's our cunning plan for world domination... Interbrew, the Belgian multinational takes over breweries all over the world. Once we've established a firm stronghold we'll spike the beer and make you all slaves to the evil belgian empire! Bwuha... bwuhahaha...

 

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Reply #12 - Sep 28th, 2005 at 1:52pm

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I'm safe then as I drink Hungarian beer from our local brewery Grin
 

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Reply #13 - Sep 28th, 2005 at 2:01pm
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It's our cunning plan for world domination... Interbrew, the Belgian multinational takes over breweries all over the world. Once we've established a firm stronghold we'll spike the beer and make you all slaves to the evil belgian empire! Bwuha... bwuhahaha...



My dear Kris

Currently 2 classes of highly skilled Comercial Economy students are working out plans to Make Heineken the biggest Brewery...there are 10 units of SBD's (Special Beer forces) so interbrew has no chance whatsoever

All is lost for interbrew

Heineken.....Meet you there...... Tongue
 
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Reply #14 - Oct 1st, 2005 at 2:33am

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Not to ignore all of you potential drunks but, to return to the initial topic:
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Today 175 years ago, separist troops forced the Dutch governemental army to retreat after several days of heavy fighting around the warande-park in Brussels. It was the start of the separation of the low-lands and the birth of Belgium.
Thank God, if this hadn't happened, chocolat, waffles and fries would have been a Dutch specialty...   Grin
Long live the Belgians!
Omag
What do you mean, "And then... the Belgians came!" Weren't they already there in the timeframe of which you speak, but for (an)other name(s)? ???
 
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