Simviation Forum - JetBlue have landing problems on TV.

Sep 21^st, 2005 at 8:20pm

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CNN has live video of a Jet Blue a320 having landing gear problems at LGB.

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Reply #1 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 9:05pm

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Watching now. Doesn't look like the gear is locked into position. Obviously it's twisted as well.

I love listening to all the 'experts' they're interviewing.

Naturally, I hope they land safely. Aviation sure has been in the lime light lately.

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Reply #2 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 9:06pm

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I believe they are planning for a landing at KLAX since it has a longer runway.

Just saw this too about 40 minutes ago.. Wink

For those who don't get CNN the nose gear on the jet blue flight 292 is turned 90 degree clockwise.. Wink

Main gear is fine....they were loaded to go to New York from I believe Burbank earlier this afternoon.

For some reason airbus didn't put a fuel dump valve on this particular version of the 320 and they have been forced to circle around to burn it off....

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Reply #3 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 9:06pm

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Reply #4 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 9:06pm

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Me too.
It will bel anding live with a "cocked" front wheel assmbly.

WOW!

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Reply #5 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 9:26pm

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What could a guy ask for besides such a nice landing?

Pretty much kept her on the centerline the whole way..

Very well done, everyone safe as always..

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Reply #6 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 9:26pm

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THEY MADE IT!!!

SUCH A SMOOTH LANDING TOO!!

Hats off to the flight crew as well as other personel!!!

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Reply #7 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 9:29pm

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Perfect landing.

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Reply #8 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 9:30pm

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Amazing!

Finally,..
some good news about a possible tragedy.

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Reply #9 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 9:32pm

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Why did they not get everyone out in 30 secs and away from a potential danger ???............no cooling spray was administered to the front gear upon arrival by the fire suppression vehicles ???.......I really expected to see the chutes deploy and have all occupants depart in a very hasty manner ???..........especially in light of the burn which occured recently at YYZ ???............Airbus vehicle in that episode too.......... ???

To my way of thinking, a very basic safety issue .........this was, after all, an emergency landing ....... ???

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Reply #10 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 9:38pm

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Why did they not get everyone out in 30 secs and away from a potential danger ???............no cooling spray was administered to the front gear upon arrival by the fire suppression vehicles ???.......I really expected to see the chutes deploy and have all occupants depart in a very hasty manner ???..........especially in light of the burn which occured recently at YYZ ???............Airbus vehicle in that episode too.......... ???

To my way of thinking, a very basic safety issue .........this was, after all, an emergency landing ....... ???

-In case you didn't know, the emergency slides aren't exactly safe. People do get hurt using them. My guess is the flight crew and ground personel made a judgement not to use them and just use stairs instead.

-There wasn't any fire on the nose gear, so there problably isn't any reason to apply any suppressant anywhere. (They essentialy made a normal landing)

-Try not to confuse this incident with the Air France accident. The accident in Toronto was a result of over-running the runway. This incident is....welll......completely different.

Not flaming......just saying

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Reply #11 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 9:41pm

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What runway did they land on. Anyone know??

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Reply #12 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 10:05pm

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24L I think.

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Reply #13 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 10:58pm

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i have a new found respect for airbus, that's some beefty gear strut Shocked

i really thought it would have collapsed, specially when the whole thing turned into a fireball Shocked

that was some flight crew the had there, truly amazing to watch how they eased the nose wheel onto the runway

hats off, indeed

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Reply #14 - Sep 21^st, 2005 at 11:54pm

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-There wasn't any fire on the nose gear, so there problably isn't any reason to apply any suppressant anywhere. (They essentialy made a normal landing)

Okay, having watched the video numerous times now, and watching it live and seeing it unfold over the hours it took from when it was started to be Broadcasted to when the thing landed, I've noticed a few key points.

-One, for a Gear malfunction, this wasn't as bad as it could've been. Let's say the gear were at a 45 degree angle as opposed to 90, that would have been disastrous in trying to keep the plane straight

-Two, after watching the flames on the wheels and what affected them, I've found that when the plane actually touched the nose down, the nose was a few yards to the left of centerline. When the plane drifted off to the right, when the front gear hit paint, that's when the flames erupted. I figured that the flames were just caused because the tires had worn completely down and the plane was on aluminum. BUT, having watched it again, I noticed that everytime the tires went over the centerline, the flames grew, then went down, then grew, then went down, as the plane hit each line. Is this known that the paint will do that? Just a thought.

-And third, having watching the video countless times already, I've noticed one thing else, the pilot had control of the rudder on the ground. Once the plane touched down, it was left of the centerline, then it drifted right, past the center, or nearly there, and then ended up on the other side, it certainly looked as if he had control.

After all, this was a nerve-racking event, but it was somewhat over-hyped, of course, having the main news stations notifyed about the plane live was a deterrent, but it's still getting a lot of coverage. The pilot made a great landing, and couldn't have set the plane down softer. No one was killed and that's what's important Wink

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