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Sep 13^th, 2005 at 6:06pm

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Any idea of a release date, please and thanks?

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Reply #1 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 2:30am

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sharpy, no ETA yet, supposedly early next year.
There's another addon comming to CFS3 around x-mas, Over Flanders Field, WWI addon.
http://off.oldbrowndog.net/

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Reply #2 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 4:35am

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Ah now when it comes to World War I, there is some excellent stuff out there already, which spoils us Sim Pilots for choice. There's the dedicated Sims like RED BARON II which has recently been given a massive, technical and graphical update by a consortium of fan developers, there's Sim-lites like WINGS OF WAR (also under fan development) and WINGS OF HONOUR. Naturally there's quite a collection of stuff for CFS2, both commercial and freeware, and even though IL2 from Oleg Maddox doesn't have the open architecture that allows users making new aircraft, there are enough Biplanes out there, with readily available WWI freeware skins and missions to fly over what is probably the best-looking scenery in any current or past Flight Sims.
Plus the other good news is that Third Wire, who gave us STRIKE FIGHTERS and WINGS OVER VIETNAM, are currently developing a new WWI Flight Sim, and since they already have a huge fan base manufacturing add-ons for these current open architecture Sims (just go to http://forum.combatace.com to see how quickly these come out) the future for that project is looking very bright indeed.

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Reply #3 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 6:03am

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LOL IB, these obviously don't work in CFS3. Wink

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Reply #4 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 6:19am

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LOL, that's why we don't need CFS3 8)

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Reply #5 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 7:01am

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Take a break man, someone peed in your coffee or what? Wink

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Reply #6 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 8:20am

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[quote author=IndioBlack link=1126649208/0#2 date=1126686943]and even though IL2 from Oleg Maddox doesn't have the open architecture that allows users making new aircraft, there are enough Biplanes out there, with readily available WWI freeware skins and missions to fly over what is probably the best-looking scenery in any current or past Flight Sims. [/quote]

I beg to disagree for three reasons :
- dogfighting in a gladiator with a DR1 skin and another one with a SE5 skin doesn't really compare to a dogfight between say, a real model of an albatross and a SE5 with their proper flight characteristics.
- you can't use TrackIR with 6DOF in the sims you mention and that kit adds IMMENSELY to immersion.
- the best looking scenery and best looking effect will, IMO, be in OFF

[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/winter1.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/OFFeffects.JPG[/img]

So for all these reasons, you need cfs3 to be able to enjoy OFF. :)

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Reply #7 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 9:02am

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Here we go again. Children we need to control our emotions and start to respect each other.

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Reply #8 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 12:57pm

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Take a break man, someone peed in your coffee or what? Wink

I expect collectively we did Grin

IR defiantly has some sort of illogical dislike for CFS3 & I still can't figure out what it is even after all his posts trying to explain it.

One clue to his own personal issue with CFS3 is how he keeps going back to the same central theme, this plane is already available in such & such a sim so why bother doing it in CFS3.

Maybe he should tell Oleg "BOB" had been done 4 or 5 times so why bother with yet another version of the same old same old. Wink

But then just to confuse us IR talks about all the wonderful things being done by the Red Baron II fan base..Wings of War...STRIKE FIGHTERS...and naturally the CFS2 fan base to improve them.

Lets see out of one side of his mouth all new things re-creating & improving already developed planes are wonderful if they are for CFS2 etc. which should be encouraged & applauded.

Out of the opposite side of his mouth all new things re-creating & improving already developed planes are terrible if developed for CFS3. Nothing should be done at all for CFS3 or if they are, knocked & derided . Go figure ???

Since most planes were already covered by the early '90's maybe the manufactures should have taken his advice & bagged it in 1996 & save a pile of money. Roll Eyes

BTW Those are really really ugly OFF screens Bzhyoyo. My god in one the trees don't even have any leaves, how could they forget them & the grass is the wrong color. I am sure IR is now in the loo barfing at the horror of it all. Wink

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Reply #9 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 1:33pm

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It's CFS3 forum.

A question was asked about CFS3 addons.

Why on earth is anyone telling the poor guy about non-CFS3 stuff?

James007, I'm Not having a go, I've just bought CFS2 (bargain basement ebay price) in order to compare the flight and graphic engines. But I wouldn't go into the CFS2 forum and start going on about how good some other sim was. It just gets in the way of people looking for useful relevant info.

I think anyone coming into any product specific forum, and going on about how much better some other sim is, gets all they deserve.

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Reply #10 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 3:31pm

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Hey Bear, what's your home town? Then I can organise a Bomb-run in CFS3.
Lighten up, man, I'm just having a laugh.
I love your B-17, but that's all I use CFS3 for. STRIKE FIGHTERS is great for Korea, F-14s and Nam; IL-2 for biplanes and F-80s. CFS2 definitely for Korea.
I'm a flier, not a developer, and I take the best of what I see and use it how I want.

Peace, man.

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I love your B-17, but that's all I use CFS3 for. STRIKE FIGHTERS is great for Korea, F-14s and Nam; IL-2 for biplanes and F-80s. CFS2 definitely for Korea..

Keep it to the right forums then, the guy was asking about CFS3.

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Reply #12 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 5:38pm

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Keep it to the right forums then, the guy was asking about CFS3.

Don't bother, OTU,
the bloke is merely interested in having an argument than talking on-off-whatever topic.

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Reply #13 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 10:10pm

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STRIKE FIGHTERS is great for Korea, F-14s and Nam; IL-2 for biplanes and F-80s. CFS2 definitely for Korea.

Using the IB principle of no duplicate planes maybe the others should withdraw their work since CFS3 has all those covered Shocked

OPPS, stuck the Panther in instead of the F-80 but we have those too. Wink

BTW I think the movement of the real time reflections on the natural skins as demonstrated in this AVI are very cool.

http://www.avhistory.org/movies/p51ref.avi

Not sure who else beside CFS3 is doing that in a WWII/Korea sim.

Korean Theatre Construction Set
http://members.shaw.ca/rcafgunner/ktcs/KTCS%20Information.htm

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Reply #14 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 11:31pm

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Av Bear you still have not given Sharpy a straight answer. When is MAW going to be release. By the way does are nice shots.

Here is where those shots belong.

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Reply #15 - Sep 14^th, 2005 at 11:51pm

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IndioBlack If you keep saying negative thing about this program in this Forum. I"m thinking of Bombing your house as well. LoL

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Reply #16 - Sep 15^th, 2005 at 1:14am

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Av Bear you still have not given Sharpy a straight answer. When is MAW going to be release. By the way does are nice shots.

Here is where those shots belong.

James007

James, I've answered the question as good as currently possible, guess there's no need to answer the same question twice? Wink

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Reply #17 - Sep 15^th, 2005 at 6:22pm

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IndioBlack If you keep saying negative thing about this program in this Forum. I"m thinking of Bombing your house as well. LoL

James007

Anytime, Baby.
LOL.

Gee everyone's so sensitive these days, aren't they? Glad someone can take a joke. 8)

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Reply #18 - Sep 15^th, 2005 at 6:28pm

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PS: Can we spell this theatre of operations properly: It's "Mediterranean".

For you yanks, "theatre" is the correct spelling of "theater".

Uh Oh, someone pissed in my coffee. I feel a bomb-run coming on. 8)

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Reply #19 - Sep 15^th, 2005 at 7:00pm

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Uh Oh, someone pissed in my coffee. I feel a bomb-run coming on. 8)

Na, you're mildly amusing at best. Wink

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Reply #20 - Sep 15^th, 2005 at 7:47pm

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Na, you're mildly amusing at best. Wink

and in your own words: "IMO you have nothing to contribute to the discussion because you obviously don't know what you're talking about."

Touche Wink

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Reply #21 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 12:24am

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Mathias I"m sorry I did not read your thread properly and missed the part where gave a vague completion date.

Now IndioBlack and Mathias I believe you are both amusing. Thank you for making me laugh with your silly nest.

We all need to laugh once in a while. Its good for our health.

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Reply #22 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 12:34am

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I just reread this post and I find it pretty amusing in general. With Bear non-stop CFS3 propaganda and IndioBlack and Mathias snaping at each other.

Quite interesting.

Thank you guys

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Reply #23 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 12:37am

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Sharpy this is what is expected to be develped for this CFS3 Addon.

BTW this is the current list of MAW aircraft.

Luftwaffe - Germany

Focke-Wulf FW 190A-2
Focke-Wulf FW 190A-3
Focke-Wulf FW 190A-4 Trop
Focke-Wulf FW 190A-5
Focke-Wulf FW 190F-3
Focke-Wulf FW 190F-8
Messerschmitt BF 109E-2 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109E-7 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109F-2 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109F-4 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109G-2 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109G-4 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109G-6 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109G-10
Messerschmitt BF 110C
Messerschmitt BF 110D
Messerschmitt BF 110E
Messerschmitt BF 110G
Dornier Do 17 Trop
Heinkel He 111h-3
Heinkel He 111h-6
Junkers Ju 87B ‘Stuka’
Ju87D-3 Stuka
Ju88A-4
Junkers Ju 52
Messerschmitt Me 323 ‘Gigant’
Fieseler Fi 156 ‘Storch’ “Recce”

Royal Air Force – Great Britain

Curtiss P-40C Tomahawk I
Curtiss P-40B Tomahawk Mk.IIA
Curtiss P-40C Tomahawk Mk.IIB
Curtiss P-40D (6 wing guns) Kittyhawk Mk.I
Curtiss P-40E Kittyhawk Mk.IA
Curtiss P-40F (merlin) Kittyhawk Mk.II (First use of KittyBombers 6/42)
Curtiss P-40L (stripped) Kittyhawk Mk.II
Curtiss P-40K/M Kittyhawk Mk.III
Curtiss P-40N Kittyhawk Mk.IV
Gloster Gladiator
Hawker Hurricane Mk I Trop
Hawker Hurricane Mk IIB Trop
Hawker Hurricane Mk IIC Trop
Hawker Hurricane Mk IID Trop
Hawker Hurricane Mk IV Trop
Supermarine Spitfire Mk.VB
Supermarine Spitfire Mk.VC
Supermarine Spitfire Mk.VIII
Supermarine Spitfire Mk.IX
Bristol Beaufighter Mk.IF
Bristol Beaufighter Mk.IC
Bristol Beaufighter Mk.VIC
Bristol Beaufighter Mk.VIF
Bristol Beaufighter Mk.VI “NF”
Bristol Beaufighter Mk.X
Bristol Blenheim Mk.I
Bristol Blenheim Mk.IV
Bristol Blenheim Mk.V
Bristol Beaufort Mk I
Douglas A-20 Boston III
Douglas A-20 Boston IV/V
Handley Page Halifax
Martin 167 Maryland
Martin 187 Baltimore I
Martin 187 Baltimore III
Martin Marauder IA
Martin Marauder II
Martin Marauder III
Short Sunderland Mk I
Short Sunderland Mk III
Douglas DC-3 Dakota I
Vickers Wellington IC
Westland Lysander

United States Army Air Corps - USA

Curtiss P-40F Warhawk (64, 65 & 67 Sqdn USAAF, attached to Western Desert Air Force)
Curtiss P-40K Warhawk
Curtiss P-40N Warhawk
P-38F
P-38J
P-38L
P-39L
P-47C
P-47D-23
P-47D-25
P-51A-36
P-51B
P-51C
P-51D
Supermarine Spitfire Mk.VB
Boeing B-17F
B-25
B-26C
Bristol Beaufighter Mk.IV NF
Consolidated B-24 Liberator
Consolidated PBY Catalina
Douglas A-20 B Havoc
Douglas A-20 B (+2 x .50 cal nose guns) Havoc
Douglas C-47 Skytrain/Skytrooper
Piper L-4 ‘Grasshopper’ “Liason”

Regia Aeronautica - Italy

Fiat Cr 32
Fiat Cr 42
Fiat G-50 ‘Freccia’
Fiat G-55 ‘Centauro’
Macchi MC-200 ‘Saetta’
Macchi MC-202 ‘Folgore’
Macchi MC-205 ‘Veltro’
Reggiane Re-2001 ‘Falco’
Reggiane Re-2005 ‘Sagitario’
Fiat BR-20 ‘Cicogna’ “Medium Bomber”
Fiat CR-25
Junkers Ju 87B ‘Stuka’
Savoia-Marchetti SM -79 ‘Sparviero’

Fleet Air Arm – Great Britain

Blackburn Skua
Fairey Fulmar
Gloster Sea Gladiator
Grumman Martlet I
Grumman Martlet II
Grumman Wildcat III
Grumman Wildcat IV
Grumman Wildcat V
Grumman Hellcat I
Hawker Sea Hurricane I
Hawker Sea Hurricane IIB
Hawker Sea Hurricane IIC
Supermarine Seafire I/II
Supermarine Seafire III
Fairey Swordfish
Fairey Swordfish “Floatplane”

Vichy French Air Force

Curtiss P-36 Hawk 75
Glenn Martin 167 “Maryland”

Greek Air Force

Gloster Gladiator I
Bristol Blenheim I

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This in itself will not make CFS3 the best World war two by itself by any means. I"m sure it will increase our experience of flying in a World war two dedicated Simulator. If you guys are able to acomplish this project I will more than grateful for your effort and dedication.
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Reply #24 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 12:55am

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I recommen that you fly in as many World war two sims as you can buy as they all will give a different flavor and different expeiences.

1.CFS2 for the Pacific. Better if you upgrade

2.Forggoten Battle/Pacific Fighter for the Eastern Front.

3.European air war for its Immmersing feeling.

4.CFS3 for ground attack capabilities and its non historical dynamic Campaings. CFS3 is a great Simulator inspite what IndioBlack says. It has a lot of potential and promising Addon by a very a nice and dedicated group of guys.

I highly recommen that you buy it.

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Reply #25 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 12:58am

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Guys is the next addon going to be base on the Pacific Theater. CFS3 would be a very nice Pacific Theater Simulator if you guys wanted to make it. That would be logical and nice if you ask me. Don"t you guys agree.

Thank you

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Reply #26 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 1:21am

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Actually, what I like in this sort of threads is that Bear always feel the urge to post some never seen screenshot previews of MAW.

I'm thinking of starting a "cfs3 sucks" thread to get more of them Grin

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Reply #27 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 10:58am

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With Bear non-stop CFS3 propaganda James007

Thing is James we dont do CFS2 anymore. If we did I could always post some propanganda for it. Grin

BTW thats Mathias's HE-111 Wink

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Reply #28 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 12:48pm

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Av Bear and Mathias I believe does are your CFS2 planes. I have flown them all and their are masterpieces.

Thank you

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Reply #29 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 12:57pm

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Sharpy if you ever decide to buy CFS3 you can get the Mission Builder in Here.

I.http://www.microsoft.com/games/combatfs3/

Enjoy

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Reply #30 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 12:57pm

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Av Bear and Mathias I believe does are your CFS2 planes. James007

CFS2 planes???? I can't believe I did that in a CFS3 thread. Wink

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Reply #31 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 1:32pm

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I"m shook my self. I will forgive you this time Av Bear.LoL

Its good to be humorous at times

Thank you

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Reply #32 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 3:14pm

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That Groundcrew HE-111 looks unbelievable in fs2004.....

But that's another forum

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Reply #33 - Sep 16^th, 2005 at 3:37pm

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That Groundcrew HE-111 looks unbelievable in fs2004.....

Looks nice over North Africa too 8)

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Hi, AV,
Obviously that's CFS3, and I was just wondering, where did the North Africa campaign come from? I have always loved the MAW theatre, and I want to know how to get the same thing you have, whatever it is. Grin

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Reply #35 - Sep 17^th, 2005 at 10:53am

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Hi, AV,
Obviously that's CFS3, and I was just wondering, where did the North Africa campaign come from? I have always loved the MAW theatre, and I want to know how to get the same thing you have, whatever it is. Grin

It's work in progress and not yet released.
Visit http://www.medairwar.com/ although the site needs a serious update to current progress. Grin

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BEAR

This in itself will not make CFS3 the best World war two by itself by any means.

Damn right it won't!

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Thing is James we dont do CFS2 anymore. If we did I could always post some propanganda for it.

That's what I've gone and done in the CFS2 forum Grin

CFS3 forum, you will be next! Grin

Lol!!

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Guys is the next addon going to be base on the Pacific Theater. CFS3 would be a very nice Pacific Theater Simulator if you guys wanted to make it. That would be logical and nice if you ask me. Don"t you guys agree.

I do agree! If you guys could make the non-historical campaign for the Pacific that would be excellent!!!! Shocked

OK I've seen enough screenshots to decide that when MAW comes out I will download it all straight away! Grin

Hi CFS3 fans,

A German nightfighter campaign is being developed with a good deal of scenery and stuff at the CFS2 forum. More to come and after this and another campaign a team to which I belong (sorry, no name for it yet) will be doing an

Eastern Front Package

Ahem. Bear, this is counter-propaganda for CFS2 Grin

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Reply #37 - Sep 19^th, 2005 at 11:41am

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Regia Aeronautica (Italian Air Force) list is incomplete. There are also these planes:

Caproni Ca 311 R.P.B.1
Caproni Ca 311 R.P.B.2
Caproni Ca 313 R.P.B.1
Caproni Ca 313 R.P.B.2
Caproni Ca 314
Caproni Ca 101
Caproni Ca 310
Cant Z 506
Fieseler 156 "Cicogna"
Fiat Cr 32 AS
Fiat CR 42 AS
Fiat Cr 42 CN (Night Fighter)
Fiat G.50 AS
Ju 87 D "Picchiatello"
Ju 88A
MesserschmittBf 110C
B-24 Liberator (captured)

And, maybe,
Cant Z 501
Breda ba 65

Some planes for Italian Cobelligerent Air Force

Caproni Ca 314
Fiat Br 20
Spitfire Mk. V
Martin Baltimore IV
Macchi Mc 202
Macchi Mc 205

Some planes for Aviazione Nazionale Repubblicana (Salò republic)
Fiat G. 55
Siai S. 79 bis
Reggiane 2005
Macchi Mc 205
Messerschmitt Bf 109G-6
Messerschmitt Bf 109G-10

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This is a List that Bear place on the wrong Forum. It belongs here. Now with the more than one Thousand planes from CFS2 and several hundred fom Il2 Forgotten Battles/Pacific Fighter and that not even including the countless ones from European Air war it will be hard to choose. It will hard to select a Sim to fly with on any given day?

You can fly in the Eastern Front or perhaps the Pacific Theater or maybe the Battle of Britain thru EAW. MAW is another great choice.

Boy this hobby is getting better every day.

I want to thank you developers. From EAW to CFS2 and now those that are developing MAW.

Thank you

James007

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Reply #38 - Sep 20^th, 2005 at 10:37am

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Thanks for putting it here. Now the really big MAW fans can see it! Wink

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Oh yes...one thing that wasn't mentioned...What about the Me -262? Hmmmm.(lol) Anyone who wants to taste what I've sent Bear...download the the Galland Me-262 at Netwings in the German Aircraft section. I made it for everyone to have fun with before AvHistory makes it officially 1%. I can hardly wait for MAW. Bear...if there's anything I can do to give your team a hand...E-mail me with the requests and I'll get on it....like sounds etc. I was asked to do the Ju-52 but I wasn't given the model so I didn't complete it. Plus I wasn't sure who the designer was and I don't like doing things without permission. Sometimes I get permission from the wrong people. On the other hand I don't intend to get OFF. I can't stand Whinny Man and the people that kiss his rump. Plus I would like to know who's doing the airfiles and what source are they getting the info from. I doubt they are going in depth with the reasearch like Bear and Myself do when we release a plane. I could be wrong, but so far I don't like what I see. Remember folks Axis Bad....Allies Good. And oh yes...Russian planes could out climb, out dive, out turn, any aircraft including the P-51D. Oups...I don't want Oleg to run away.....Come back....don't run away!

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Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Mediterranean

Write it out a 100 times until you can learn to spell the word properly.

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No one is perfect. So who cares! Leave him alone. Angry

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Reply #42 - Dec 9^th, 2005 at 4:36am

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On the other hand I don't intend to get OFF. I can't stand Whinny Man and the people that kiss his rump.

You'll be pleased to learn that we're not kissing anyone's rump : we're just a bunch of adults working together on a project. And if I was not thick-skinned and if I had not in mind the overall picture of the project instead of my ego, I would have bailed out. Guess that's not everyone's case.

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Plus I would like to know who's doing the airfiles and what source are they getting the info from. I doubt they are going in depth with the reasearch like Bear and Myself do when we release a plane. I could be wrong, but so far I don't like what I see. Remember folks Axis Bad....Allies Good.
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I don't know what gave you the impression that we're going to undermodel Axis planes ??? I know that's one of your pet peeve but if this happens, it will not be delibaretely. Anyway, you're more than welcome to bring improvements when you see fit. You're more than welcome to provide your own interpretation of the data. That is cfs3 after all, open architecture and all that...

The research department is a good one in OFF, don't worry about that. What is more worrying though, is that none of us have the expertise on FMs that Bear and his team have. Unfortunately, they were too busy with MAW to help us out. I hope OFF will be able to benefit from the advances AVhistory claimed they've done with v4.0 of their workbook and that they will be able to work on WWI planes when MAW is finished.
Simmers will benefit all around from that, not from the bickering of individuals.

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No one is perfect. So who cares! Leave him alone. Angry

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That was addressed to all of you!

What I've never been able to understand is how you Computer whizz-kids can manage to programme all this extremely complicated stuff, where a single full-stop, comma, or erroneous figure in the wrong place could cause an entire air-file to implode; but you can't spell English for toffee.
Since the particular word in question is a famous Geographical place-name, which will eventually form part of the title for a major add-on for CFS3, I just hope they'll manage to get it right by the time it goes gold.

Mediterranean!

im loking froward to fling teh B71 Flyng Frotress miself.
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I just hope they'll manage to get it right by the time it goes gold.

Mediterranean!

I expect we will use spell check for the final version - If not y'all can always run us over or have the dismounts shoot us. Cheesy

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Bear it looks great. I cannot wait until you finnish this project. The Desert war is way under represented in the Sim world. Thank you your group.

Now my next question is When are going to build a good project to represen the Pacific Theater CFS3 style.

Its what this program need to make a more complete program.

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es! good gob Bear! Go metiteranian! Grin

I have good reasons to question Off and I will continue to practice that right. I re-did the CFS2 Dr1 and other planes due to the airfiles being way OFF. All the WW1 planes were tricky to fly except for the Fokker D-7F. The Dr-1 was Manouvorable as heck....but also the most difficult to fly. I have first hand knowlege of this due to I know a guy who has a replica down the road from me that gave me first hand on how the Dr-1 flies. Of all the models out there for CFS1 and 2...there only a few that fly to spec. My CFS2 Jasta11 planes do with the CFS2 engine. For people who fly CFS3 like a arcade game, they wont care...however a few of us want it realistic as possible. Simulator means to simulate, and that's why I endorse AvHistory and GroundCrew. Thank you for allowing me to express my opinion and experiances. Roll Eyes

Now on a Personal note, Whiney Man has ruined it for many even wanting OFF. All you need is one bad grape to rot the rest of the bunch. Just ask the X-IL2 people....Oleg lost a lot of people with his attitude...and I'm not talking about a instrument in a cockpit. Get rid of Whiney, and a lot of people will be happy...I'm just one of them.

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Reply #47 - Dec 13^th, 2005 at 9:12am

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Bear it looks great. I cannot wait until you finnish this project. The Desert war is way under represented in the Sim world. Thank you your group.

Now my next question is When are going to build a good project to represen the Pacific Theater CFS3 style.

Its what this program need to make a more complete program.

This was a past I wrore a while back. I have not recieve a answer to my question. That means they are not interested in ever representing the Pacific Theare through CFS3 in the Future.

Thats a darn shame. They have chosen to ignore half of Word war two. A Theater that covered one third of the World at that time.

That means that there will never bee a carriers Ops in CFS3.

There will never bee.
A Battle of outer Mongolia

Chinese Incident 1937

Shangai 1937

Pearl Harbor

Invation of the Philipine 1941

Invation of Malaysia 1941

Signapore 1942

Indonesia 1942

Battle Java Sea 42

Strike India Ocean 1942

The sinking of Repulse and her sisiter ship 1942

Invation of Burma 1942

Avg Campaign 1942

Battle of Coral Sea 1942

Batlle od Midway 1942

Campaing Gudacanal 1942

Campaing New Georgia01943

Alaska 1942-1943

Burma 1943

Central Solomon 43

New Britain 44

New Genea 1942 through 1944

Tarawa 1943

Marshal Islands 1944

Mariana Islands 1944

Palau 1944

Philipines 1944-1945

Battle of Leyty 1944

Carrier strikes 1942-45

Burma 1944-45

China 1942-45

Iwo jima 1945

Okinawa 1945

Bombing of Japan 1944-45

Manchuria 1945

Possible Hypothetical Campaing 1946-1947

All those great Campaigns will missing from your Program. Your addiction to the Europen Theater is close minded and is hurting this program. Thats means if I ever wanten to change the menu one day I will have to go to other programs.

I wish one Day you Guys will open your minds and think out of the box.

Do you not get Bore of flying flying the same planes all the time. I love the Bf109 and Fw190 but some times I like to fly a Wildcat or Hellcat for a change. What about a Ki44 or Ki84 or Toryu 45. Not only are you been close minded but you are depriving your self of expanding your flying experience to only a few planes.

This program has a lot weakness and strength like all Simulators. Over all its a nice program. what has bother me the most about this program is that your are force to fly in only one Theater. To me the ability of flying in only one theater is like tieing me up to a chair or been force to eat only one type of meal every day.

No matter how good that meal may be its gets boring after a while.

I hope you reconsider and build a Pacific Cmpaign in the Future.

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I wish one Day you Guys will open your minds and think out of the box.

Wind your neck in James.

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Reply #49 - Dec 13^th, 2005 at 9:34am

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James, if you want to fly Pacific Theatre, then there's already CFS2 and PACIFIC FIGHTERS. The latter is graphically one of the most beautiful Sims out there.
I don't see any point in these people making something that already exists in some other Sim, when they can open up the boundaries, think out of the box and go somewhere new. The Mediterranean (note the spelling, guys) Theatre isn't somewhere that I want to fly, but it will obviously please a lot of other people, and I will at least give it a try.
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Reply #50 - Dec 13^th, 2005 at 10:04am

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Otsu_61 I"am sorry I offended you. But my post was a post out love also.

Yes IndioBlack CFS2 is a great Simulator as well. I understand that and I"am very happy with it and its developers. I just wish there also a CFS3 version as well.

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Wind your neck James. Now thats a new one on me. Some are really sensitive when you make them think out of the Box.

Whats you fear 61 Otu. I do not understand your aggressive answer.

My post was a legitamate request wasn"t.

James007

PS. this has nothing to do with MAW. I"AM GLAD ITS BEEN DEVELOPED. Its has to do with Future develpment of this program.

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Some are really sensitive when you make them think out of the Box.

Just bored of hearing the same whining about "when are you going to do X, or Y". You sound like a 5 year old

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Whats you fear 61 Otu. I do not understand your aggressive answer.

Be glad for what people do for free, in their own time, for your benefit. Don't whine

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PS. this has nothing to do with MAW. I"AM GLAD ITS BEEN DEVELOPED. Its has to do with Future develpment of this program.

Give them a chance, look at the work involved. Do it yourself if you think you can do better.

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Not at all, "Go Pacific!!", just the whiney voice that got on my nerves.

And as for aggressive, what's this if not aggressive?

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Your addiction to the Europen Theater is close minded and is hurting this program.

Get a grip Roll Eyes

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I wish one Day you Guys will open your minds and think out of the box........Not only are you been close minded but you are depriving your self of expanding your flying experience to only a few planes.
James007

James,

Pompous, self important, condescending blowhards like you that don't do squat other then to make demands of others tend to make the producers wonder on occasion why they bother at all to share their work product.

Its seems to me that you are one of the biggest pains in the butt in simland. Many of us can on occasion be a pain but unfortunately in your case this very large pain you create is in inverse proportion to your overall contribution; something like intestinal gas.

Demanding non-producers like you just drive me up the wall, maybe y'all should get a life of your own & stop telling us how to lead ours.

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Reply #54 - Dec 13^th, 2005 at 11:39am

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Allied PTO aircraft we produced include but are not limited to:

P-40
SBD-5
Beaufighter
L-5B
FM-2
F4U
FG-1D
F4F
B-26G
B-25H
TBD
F6F
F8F-2
TBF

BTW most of us have lives well outside of flight sims that we also devote time too.

Personally its hard to remain a Kinder Gentler BEAR when being told by someone I don't even know how I should spend my time.

But then I can always break things to help relieve the tension. Wink

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Bear all I"am sugesting is a change of menu to the next addon. It will expand and help improve this program.

If you chose to get upset about previous post or anything else I writen its your choice.

I know I have not writen anything that should make you or any one else upset.

I"am pointing out that there was another facinating war at the same time as the one in Europe and you would get more interest in this program if you deversify this program to include the Pacific Air war.

Its your choice. I"am very happy with Pacific Fighter and CFS2 in its presentation of the Pacific Theater. I though you and your group could give us another version of the same Theater.

After all there are over ten different version of the European Theater in the Market at one point or another. It would be interesting to fly in the Pacific CFS3 style.

Now if that makes you mad let be it.

All those Japanese planes you high lighted do not have a map nor Ships to land in.

They are developing and improving the Eropean Theater in CFS2 right now, I"am all for it. I just hope they do not forget the Pacific Theater. I was just hoping you would do the same and include a Pacific Addon to CFS3.

You see I consider both Theaters two wars in one. Just developing one over the expense of The other is just cheating the user of experience of flying on the other.

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Remember James, this is not a democracy. Just because you feel you have something invested in this game (like a little too much time perhaps Roll Eyes

), it doesn't mean that you achieve voting rights.

The MAW developers have agreed to work together on one big, free, project. That's a huge commitment by probably the only people able and willing to do it.

If you want to dictate the course of the next development then learn the skills, earn the respect, and build the team.

I barely have the time to play the game (only 95% realism Wink

) let alone build the fantastic models, and then there's the interiors!

I'd love a Lancaster, but I'm not going to keep whining on about it. (Maybe a little hint every now and again Wink

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It's their show, it's their call. If you can't do any better then stop deluding yourself that anyone is the least bit interested in your opinion.

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Sounds good, I've got the rope. Bear, you got a chair?

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I know I have not writen anything that should make you or any one else upset.
James007

James if you don't think I should find the following offensive then you are truly clueless, self centered individual. Angry

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Your addiction to the Europen Theater is close minded and is hurting this program.

I wish one Day you Guys will open your minds and think out of the box.

Not only are you been close minded but you are depriving your self of expanding your flying experience to only a few planes. James007

You do nothing for flight sims but piss, moan and whine & I am the one hurting the program....get a grip & look in the mirror.

Its time y'all grow up & realize that words have meaning & the world does not revolve around you & your wants.

As 61_OTU has suggested if you don't like what we are doing get off your dead butt & build your own. Find out what it is to be a doer rather then just an opinionated taker.

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All those Japanese planes you high lighted do not have a map nor Ships to land in
James007

Lets see now, my copy of CFS3 has the Lexington, Saratoga, Yorktown, Enterprise, Hornet, Akagi, Kaga, Soryu, Hiryu, Aquila, Eagle and Hermes to land & takeoff from.

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I'd love a Lancaster, but I'm not going to keep whining on about it. (Maybe a little hint every now and again Wink

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Lancaster? Isn't that a city someplace? ???

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Sounds good, I've got the rope. Bear, you got a chair?

Yes a nice tall one, its the drop that does the trick Grin

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Lancaster? Isn't that a city someplace? ???

That's the one Bear Wink

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It seems to be working its way back into the mix...at least I am hearing more about it among the group. You have to be aware however that Mathias's heart is really with the Me-110 & is doing it from the ground up with an all new model for CFS3.

Work in progress.

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Old shot there, Bear. Grin

Well yes and no.
While the 110 along with the Fw190A and the Do24 is my favorite Luftwaffe plane, the reasoning behind focussing on it right now is that it's needed to get the early stage in the Med going.
James Grime's model is a C, our GC models are G's, but we need mainly E's in the med so a new model was due (beside that our old G model has errors). Shocked

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I was not sure it was OK to show the 9/ZG 76, Balkan Campaign, May 1941 skin yet.

Thanks for the birthday greetings.

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Bear....your hand hurt? lol...guns are more fun. When I'm pissed I take my .303 En. Out back and empty a box in a bucket at 200 yards. The only thing that's sore after that is my right shoulder. 8)

Good to see ya Kevin!

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Reply #65 - Dec 14^th, 2005 at 12:51am

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Bear, Bear since when has opinion has been consider a whine. All I have posted was a opinion thats it.

No one has given more clamor to developers than I and I have written many post praising developer I belive more than I.

I cannot dictate to you or any one what else the project should bee. But I do have the right to expres my opinion.

I know I was not pompous nor self center when I only gave my opinion.

I have never written any negative this about this program or any other. All I was expressing my honest desire and opinion on what on what I think this program next project. Its always up to you and your group.

I do not know why you have to regress to insults and demeaning language of other members when they give a opinion you do not like.

In all the years I have written and read post I have never met a Gentelman like you. Who resort to unkind words and insults to make a point.

You are a intelligent man. Why do resort to such behavior I do not know.

Your are the most aggresive and nasty member I have ever met on any forum.

When you are cornner you always try to humiliate your fellow member.

As for how much time I spend flying or not is not important. Why do you insinuate that I spen too much time flying and not enough on another activities.

The reality is I do not care what you do in your off time but do care you respect me and other member of this community and strat debated issued like Adult without resorting to insults and other nonrespectable behavior.

You and 61 know darn well that I did not offended any body. If I said some people need to think out of the Box. You know thats only a opinion. You have the right to reponse as to my opinion without taking things personal.

You know I was not pushing the issue of when are you to make Pacific Theater Addon. All I ask If your next project was to going to include the Pacific Theater.

I have only prases for the MAW project and I have always said that. Please refrain from insulting or saying what you know is not true.

Learn to accept other peoples opinion and respect them and they will respect you a lot more.

This has been a opinion

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There are several problems with message boards, to which I can attest, having been thrown off quite a few.

1. Language problems. Even when English is the native language, people often have trouble getting their ideas over, or understanding other people's posts. It gets worse when one of the writers isn't English - American for example.

2. Sense of humour problems. The above crack at the Yanks was a joke, but there will be a fair number of you who don't think it's funny, and some of those will believe I'm being deliberately insulting. If we could all just laugh a little more, particularly at ourselves, we might just get along better.

3. Arrogance. Some people get a little arrogant, particularly when they achieve a certain level of Kudos on the board, have supplied some sort of downloadable work for the masses, or have a little clique of supporters who agree with their every word they pronounce. These are the sorts of people who feel they can say anything they want. Because usually no one will dare argue with them.

4. Sensitivity. But the same people who dish it out, never seem to be able to take it. People out there are easily offended. The Web is full of wusses. Don't pick a fight with a guy who makes aircraft, or he might stop making them. Even Microsoft don't like people telling them what they'd like to have in a flight simulator. Which is why they're usually really bad and have to be developed by third parties into something worthwhile.

5. The Webmaster. He's the guy who steps in just as an argument is getting interesting, and sides with the most influential party in the argument against the lone figure who has no mates, but might have a bloody good point.

Get used to it, it's not going to get any better.

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<grin> IB, sounds like you are around the www since quite some time. Grin

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It's a good point well put IB. I agree that language is a key issue here. I would be the first to admit that I would have no chance in participating on a forum in James007's native language.

Why any freeware developers do what they do is beyond me. They get no reward, constant grief, and people telling them that they should do, or should have done, this or that.

I think it was Kevin's sig that said "Why not email a freeware designer today and thank him for his work". How about we also give them a little room on the forums to show us their efforts without suggesting that they're working on the wrong things?

You've got Fox-Four under your avatar. I don't know what the connection is, but it seems to me that all freeware designers get involved in order to produce something which pleases themselves. Until I'm prepared to devote the required time to learning to do it myself, why on earth would I feel I've got any say in what other people are doing or in what should come next?

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That means they are not interested in ever representing the Pacific Theare through CFS3 in the Future.

That seems a little more than a language problem to me.

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61_OTU by your own admission you only have a problem the one setence that I wrote on my post.

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61_OTU by your own admission you only have one problem the one sentence that I wrote on my post.
"That means they are not interested in ever representing the Pacific Theater through CFS3 in the Future".

You notice, I wrote on previous post asking if you where going to make Pacific Theater Addon in the Future after you had finnish the MAW. A simple inquiring question. Since I did not get a responce I assume that you where not interested in building one.

Thats find. I gave you my opinion on why I thought a Pacific Addon would be good for this program. It was only a opinion. No one was twisting your arm or placed a gun in your head telling this is what have got to make for us.

This you develope it if you want to, and no one can force you too. But I do have the right to encorouge you or give you Ideas. No foul language was ever use or other derogatory comments made.

Your comment "Wind your neck in James". Was totally inappropiate. Now thats offensive and totally out porportion to the opinion I was writting.

You said this forum was not a Democracy. You are only half right. Yes it is not political party or a political movement but it does have a a democratic spirit.

Like a domocratic movement you need to respect the opinion of others like you would like them to respect your opinion.

Now you believe that this is not a Democracy. That may well mean that if your fellow developers decide to develope a Pacific Thearter you do not like you may force them to develope what you like. Now thats self center.

Self center would apply if I had control on what CFS3 where going to develope in the Future and you did not want to develope it and I would force you to.

Now that self center. But by a writing a simple opinion you call me self center. Thats rediculous use of the language.

Bear, once a long time ago Buddah met this man who wanted to talk to him very badly. He wanted tell him how much he hated him and how he really felt about his teachings.
He foul and cursed at Buddah as Buddah only listen in silence. After about a hour pass. He ask Buddah what he thought of all the things he said to him. Buddah reponce was that all he could hear was the wind hitting this geltelman face as he saw him spiting against the wind for over a hour.

If you read all the post I have written and compare them to the ones you have written. You will realize you have been spiting against the wind.

This is Bear describing Bear"Pompous, self important, condescending blowhards ". Now Bear thats a bit Harsh on your self.

If you can so Mad over a simple matter of opinion on the Future of this program. That can only mean you guys need to chill and place thing in proper prespective.

James007

PS Remember this is the Holiday to share and be kind to each other. have a wonder Holiday with your fimalies. Spend it in health and prosperity.

I know deep down you guys are nice guys. You just need to practice been nice to others more often.

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Reply #71 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 3:37am

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Quite simple put, the future of CFS3, as it stands now, is WWI OFF, due out this Sunday, and MAW, which both will keep it's developers busy for quite some time to come to accurately render these both chapters of history.
Now come Mr James 007 and asks for the Pacific in CFS3, implying in the next sentence that we are the grave diggers of CFS3 if don't do it, and also implying that we short-sighted ETO nutters.
Turn it as you want, that is offensive and inappropriate and barely a question of democracy or whatever you try to talk into a hobby in which you are only involved from a Spectator's position.
For the record, we practice democratic rules within our groups to which you do not belong thus you can't claim the right to have a say at all.

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Reply #72 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 2:07pm

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Hey, Mathias turn as you may. I was just a opinion. Being a Eropean nutter is not a insult. Is all right to be a European nutter. You have express your preference and I have my view.

All I was try to point to you that you might enrich your flying experience if you would created and fly in different Thearers with different planes.

As for saying you grave diggers of CFS3 is just a opinion. Not a insult. You may differ from my opinion but I have the righ to things as I see it. There is no point in insulting or degrade any one for expressing his view.

We fought World war two to be able express our self as long as we do not offend any one or tramp on some one else rights.

I had the wrong impression about this forum and your group. I though like in other forums every one participated in the development of the Sim. Every one has a input or least the right to be heard and respected regardless of his experience developmental involvement.

I see thats not the way things work here. A small group decides who can say what and and do what. Boy that remind a regime some 60 years ago. Thats the reason we play this game. To enjoy the planes of that era and to recall the sacrifyces made by men of that era to keep us free from groups like this one.

Boy you have manage to decrease my desire to fly in this Sim.

I see this program belongs to you and not to the CFS3 community as whole.

Mathias have great Chrismas, Germany is beautiful country with beatiful prople. Long live freedom and long live Democracy.

James007

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Reply #73 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 2:33pm

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James,

Have read one response after another by you and its obvious you just don't get it. So why not just let it go & take a hike as I don't think you are going to get anything from us that will please you.

Since you have no interest in what I do in my "off" time I thought I might as well tell you a little more about what I do in my "off" time.

I also build high performance engines & cars.

If you get the idea that I am not really paying any serious attention to you, congrats you have broken the code.

BTW The respect you desire is earned not asked for. You know what they say about having to ask.

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Reply #74 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 5:23pm

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I am a short sighted ETO nutter

James is right

All of my previous posts were influenced by medication (Katahu's to blame) except for the ones where I used text

Next topic

Do not feed........
Do not feed........
Do not feed........
Do not feed........ x1000

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Reply #75 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 6:13pm

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61_OTU beign a European Nutter is not a desease so thats all right. I wish you would be little more open minded. But thats not insult, its only a constuctive critism.

You like what you like.
I have No hard feeling toward your any one else in this Forum. So I"am not going wind your neck.

Now Bear you will not stop beign The Bully of the Forum.

You are one that does get it and never will. My Thread was a constructive critism. Obviously you do not believe in other people having differnt opinions.

As taking a hike. That will only happen when I decide to do it not when you say so.

Another spit in his own face"Take a Hike" by Bear.

If you Guys are wondering what are we debating here it is. Mind you it was written as a contructive critism.

1.http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=cfs3;action=display;num=11...

Be kind Bear this is the Holiday to be to charming.

James007

Its better to give than to recieve

PS Bear your cars are nice looking. But has nothing to with this Sim at all. Now you got mad Because I said" I did care about your personal life but I do care how you treat other members".

You are so much into your self. that simple comment upcepted you. Incredible!

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Reply #76 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 8:19pm

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Hey Bear,

Love the cars ... especially the 'Vette! 8) Is it a '64 model ?

My brother is a big-time Corvette fan - he restored (and converted to RHD) a '76 T-Top about 10 years ago. Looked a million bucks & drove really well ... and since they're not too common here in Oz you also got lots of friendly waves from people you'd never even met!

He has since sold the '76 to a mate but now has a '64 convertible he's been restoring from the ground up (again converted to RHD). It's currently nearing completion but since he's also in the process of getting a new house built, I suspect it might still be a while ...

Cheers - GhostFlyer

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Reply #77 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 8:19pm

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Its better to give than to recieve

Agree; we have given free of any charge the entire content of the following sites

http://www.groundcrewdesign.com
http://www.avhistory.org
http://www.medairwar.com

What have you given?

Quote:

Now you got mad Because I said" I did care about your personal life but I do care how you treat other members".

Not mad about that at all....just demonstrating as far as I am concerned your wishes are irrelevant.

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Reply #78 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 8:23pm

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Hi GF,

The Vette is a '67 coupe. The '67's are easy to spot as they are the only ones with shark gill air extractors. Original 427 is long gone replaced by a 460.

Your Holdens are doing pretty well here as 400hp Pontiac GTO's. Had a tri-power 66 goat way back when. Wink

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Reply #79 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 9:40pm

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Quote:

The Vette is a '67 coupe. The '67's are easy to spot as they are the only ones with shark gill air extractors. Original 427 is long gone replaced by a 460.

My brother would have noticed that - my 'Vette spotting skills are only amateur I'm afraid. Must say it always makes me grin when you guys can't be satisfied with something as big as a a 427! (7 litres) Grin

Quote:

Your Holdens are doing pretty well here as 400hp Pontiac GTO's.

Yep, the Monaros have been quite a success story for Holden. Doing well in the U.K. as a Vauxhall too ... got a very enthusiastic review the other night on "Top Gear" (a popular Rev-Head TV show in the UK & we get it out here sometimes too).

Cheers - GhostFlyer

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Reply #80 - Dec 15^th, 2005 at 10:13pm

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Must say it always makes me grin when you guys can't be satisfied with something as big as a a 427! (7 litres) Grin

Cheers - GhostFlyer

Now a days a 427CI (7liter) is just a baby rat.

The big rats are Turn Key ZZ572/620, 620 HP 572CI (9.4 liters) Street/Strip Crate Engine & Turn Key ZZ572/720R, 720 HP 572CI (9.4 liters) Drag Race Crate Engine. $12/14K USD Shocked

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Reply #81 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 1:17am

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Yes you have given us nice Planes and some good advise. Yes and I have told you so before. I do appreciate you kind works dedicared to this noble hobby. I too like your cars.

Now Bear having said that. Just because you have given us some Cyber planes it does not give you the right to insult and to discredit others.

I will tell you what I have done. I have Alway treated others with the dignaty they deserve. If I ever made the mistake of hurting anyone elses feeling, it was never on purpose.

I have made many donations and taken care of many Patients where I work in the real world. I have done many more things but I"am not goingt to post them because that would be floating.

The higher your stading or positions in the real world the more noble your actions should bee.

One should never flount or try humiliate others to make themself feel better.

Not just make things for a hooby. I love your work and the work of others in this Hobby. But it does not nor will it ever make you a better person or simmer.

You should bee a little more humble my friend.

The greatest People in this world are does that are humble and kind to others and do not flount all the of what they have done.

James007

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Reply #82 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 1:43am

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Bear I"am not as smart as I would like to bee, but I"am not as dumb as you would like me to be either. I now you will not develope a Pacific Theater Addon.

I just thought it would improve this program. But I know you are all ETO nutter. I find with that. My opinion was in the best interest as I saw it for this program as a hooby member. It was a just subgestion thats it. I though it would give it the diversity it needs.

I love to fly with every plane and in every Thearer that parcipated in World war two.

Since this is your program and not the communities.
Do as you please.

No harm was intended. Just a opinion given.

I"am very happy with the other communities Pacific program and really do not need CFS3 version.

If you prefer to fly BF 109 AND fW190 all the time more power to you. I do get bored flying the same planes all the time.

Bear I wish you and your family and the rest of the Gang a very Happy Holiday from the bottom of my Heart.

This has been a Opinion

James007

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Reply #83 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 6:50am

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Since Bear is bragging about his out-of-Sim hobbies, I'll let you see mine:

I find Spaghetti Western locations and occasionally appear in the special-extras section of DVDs, like this one for FISTFUL OF DYNAMITE.
8)

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Reply #84 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 9:20am

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Quote:

Since Bear is bragging about his out-of-Sim hobbies, I'll let you see mine:

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I find Spaghetti Western locations and occasionally appear in the special-extras section of DVDs, like this one for FISTFUL OF DYNAMITE.
8)

I found a lot of the more active guys are also doing a lot of very cool things & its nice to see you also have a life outside of computer games. Wink

Were the westerns shot is Italy or Spain?

Its interesting to note that on the more active CFS1-2-3 sites where a majority of the developers participate that post your picture, what do you do, what are your other interests/hobbies threads are very common & especially well responded to going into the thousands of views. The varied interests & jobs of the guys is quite amazing.

Here where the self appointed hall monitors say "strictly CFS sim related son" the activity levels are low as are the number of actual participants; I wonder if there is a correlation?

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Reply #85 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 10:39am

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Bear you are right. The reason I said what I said is because you where always insinuating that I spend to much time in the Sim world.

In reality I"am a people person and like to hear other peoples stories and know about their lives and what they do and that includes you.

I"am not against you showing your cars and telling us that you break pecieces of wood with your hand.

As matter of fact I use to the same thing when I was kid many years ago. I use to practce Tai kwan do back then. Have you tried to break a brick with your hand. Now that a bit tougher.

Bear deep down you are swell of a guy. All you need to do is be a little more gentle. A little more open minded and you will a happier person. That was only intended as a contructive crisism. You see I use to bee little bit like you before.

Please do not take it wrong. Respect other not for what they have done in this Hobby but who they are as humans. Do not forget we are equal under Gods eyes.

Please do not take this program or any other so seriously.

Please keep showing me your cars. They are simply beautiful.

Your house looks prety nice as well.

Is there any way you might lend the me Keys of one of your cars.LOL

I guess not!

I like your kinder side much better.

IB I like your pictures too.

PS have a nice day. Hey if you still feel a deep dislike of me. Please break a couple of wood blocks in my name and mayby that will help you. Its only a subgestion. LOL

Have a good day

James007

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Reply #86 - Dec 16^th, 2005 at 11:04am

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"""Hey if you still feel a deep dislike of me""" James I don't dislike you I just don't agree with you on very much. Kiss

Excuse me James but those 'wood' blocks in the picture are actually each 2 inch (5.1cm) thick 30lb (13.6kg) concrete paving blocks. Wink

The picture was from a demo; one of three I did that day. Its best to cut back on the size of the stack when you are going to do repetitive breaks.

Personal best to date in actual tournement competition was 11 blocks, 8 or 9 are generally enough to win the old farts division.

BTW Anyone in the Raleigh, NC area is always welcome to drop in to see our academy & take a free lesson.

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Reply #87 - Dec 17^th, 2005 at 3:04pm

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[quote author=AvHistory Wink

Were the westerns shot is Italy or Spain?
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This was taken on the road to Rodalquilar, Almeria province, Southern Spain.
Surprisingly,Spain was the most popular location, mainly in Almeria, but also outside Madrid. This is where the more famous Sergio Leone/Clint Eastwood movies were shot. Far less were filmed in Italy.

Now if we could just do a Mexican Revolution add-on, where I get to fly my biplane over Federale artillery, like Robert Mitchum did in VIVA VILLA, then I'd be in Heaven;-)

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