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Reply #60 - Dec 13th, 2005 at 6:31pm

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It seems to be working its way back into the mix...at least I am hearing more about it among the group.   You have to be aware however that Mathias's heart is really with the Me-110 & is doing it from the ground up with an all new model for CFS3.

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Reply #61 - Dec 13th, 2005 at 6:47pm

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Old shot there, Bear.  Grin

Well yes and no.
While the 110 along with the Fw190A and the Do24 is my favorite Luftwaffe plane, the reasoning behind focussing on it right now is that it's needed to get the early stage in the Med going.
James Grime's model is a C, our GC models are G's, but we need mainly E's in the med so a new model was due (beside that our old G model has errors). Shocked

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BTW, happy birthday, sir!  Cheesy

 

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Reply #62 - Dec 13th, 2005 at 7:08pm

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Reply #63 - Dec 13th, 2005 at 9:02pm

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  Wink  I was not sure it was OK to show the 9/ZG 76, Balkan Campaign, May 1941 skin yet.

Thanks for the birthday greetings.  Smiley
 
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Reply #64 - Dec 13th, 2005 at 11:35pm

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Shocked Bear....your hand hurt? lol...guns are more fun. When I'm pissed I take my .303 En. Out back and empty a box in a bucket at 200 yards. The only thing that's sore after that is my right shoulder. 8)

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Reply #65 - Dec 14th, 2005 at 12:51am

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Bear, Bear since  when has opinion has been consider a whine. All I have posted was a opinion thats it.

No one has given more clamor to developers than I and I have written many post praising developer I belive more than I.

I cannot dictate to you or any one what else the project should bee. But I do have the right to expres my opinion.

I know I was not pompous nor self center when I only gave my opinion.

I have never written any negative this about this program or any other. All I was expressing my honest desire and opinion on what on what I think this program next project. Its always up to you and your group.

I do not know why you have to regress to insults and demeaning language of other members when they give a opinion you do not like.

In all the years I have written and read post I have never met a Gentelman like you. Who resort to unkind words and insults to make a point.

You are a intelligent man. Why do resort to such behavior I do not know.

Your are the most aggresive and nasty member I have ever met on any forum.

When you are cornner you always try to humiliate your fellow member.

As for how much time I spend flying or not is not important. Why do you insinuate that I spen too much time flying and not enough on another activities.

The reality is I do not care what you do in your off time but do care you respect me and other member of this community and strat debated issued like Adult without resorting to insults and other nonrespectable behavior.

You and 61 know darn well that I did not offended any body. If I said some people need to think out of the Box. You know thats only a opinion. You have the right to reponse as to my opinion without taking things personal.

You know I was not pushing the issue of when are you to make Pacific Theater Addon. All I ask If your next project was to going to include the Pacific Theater.

I have only prases for the MAW project and I have always said that. Please refrain from insulting or saying what you know is not true.

Learn to accept other peoples opinion and respect them and they will respect you a lot more.

This has been a opinion

James007




 
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Reply #66 - Dec 14th, 2005 at 4:26am

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There are several problems with message boards, to which I can attest, having been thrown off quite a few.

1. Language problems. Even when English is the native language, people often have trouble getting their ideas over, or understanding other people's posts. It gets worse when one of the writers isn't English - American for example.

2. Sense of humour problems. The above crack at the Yanks was a joke, but there will be a fair number of you who don't think it's funny, and some of those will believe I'm being deliberately insulting. If we could all just laugh a little more, particularly at ourselves, we might just get along better.

3. Arrogance. Some people get a little arrogant, particularly when they achieve a certain level of Kudos on the board, have supplied some sort of downloadable work for the masses, or have a little clique of supporters who agree with their every word they pronounce. These are the sorts of people who feel they can say anything they want. Because usually no one will dare argue with them.

4. Sensitivity. But the same people who dish it out, never seem to be able to take it. People out there are easily offended. The Web is full of wusses. Don't pick a fight with a guy who makes aircraft, or he might stop making them. Even Microsoft don't like people telling them what they'd like to have in a flight simulator. Which is why they're usually really bad and have to be developed by third parties into something worthwhile.

5. The Webmaster. He's the guy who steps in just as an argument is getting interesting, and sides with the most influential party in the argument against the lone figure who has no mates, but might have a bloody good point.

Get used to it, it's not going to get any better.
 
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Reply #67 - Dec 14th, 2005 at 4:31am

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<grin> IB, sounds like you are around the www since quite some time. Grin Grin Grin
 

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Reply #68 - Dec 14th, 2005 at 6:56am

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It's a good point well put IB. I agree that language is a key issue here. I would be the first to admit that I would have no chance in participating on a forum in James007's native language.

Why any freeware developers do what they do is beyond me. They get no reward, constant grief, and people telling them that they should do, or should have done, this or that.

I think it was Kevin's sig that said "Why not email a freeware designer today and thank him for his work". How about we also give them a little room on the forums to show us their efforts without suggesting that they're working on the wrong things?

You've got Fox-Four under your avatar. I don't know what the connection is, but it seems to me that all freeware designers get involved in order to produce something which pleases themselves. Until I'm prepared to devote the required time to learning to do it myself, why on earth would I feel I've got any say in what other people are doing or in what should come next?

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That means they are not interested in ever representing the Pacific Theare through CFS3 in the Future.


That seems a little more than a language problem to me.
 
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Reply #69 - Dec 15th, 2005 at 12:38am

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61_OTU by your own admission you only have a problem the one setence that I wrote on my post.
 
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Reply #70 - Dec 15th, 2005 at 1:57am

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61_OTU by your own admission you only have one problem the one sentence that I wrote on my post.
"That means they are not interested in ever representing the Pacific Theater through CFS3 in the Future".  

You notice, I wrote on previous post asking if you where going to make Pacific Theater Addon in the Future after you had finnish the MAW. A simple inquiring question. Since I did not get a responce I assume that you where not interested in building one.

Thats find. I gave you my opinion on why I thought a Pacific Addon would be good for this program. It was only a opinion. No one was twisting your arm or placed a gun in your head telling this is what have got to make for us.

This you develope it if you want to, and no one can force you too. But I do have the right to encorouge you or give you Ideas. No foul language was ever use or other derogatory comments made.

Your comment "Wind your neck in James". Was totally inappropiate. Now thats offensive and totally out porportion to the opinion I was writting.

You said this forum was not a Democracy. You are only half right. Yes it is not political party or a political movement but it does have a a democratic spirit.

Like a domocratic movement you need to respect the opinion of others like you would like them to respect your opinion.

Now you believe that this is not a Democracy. That may well mean that if your fellow developers decide to develope a Pacific Thearter you do not like you may force them to develope what you like. Now thats self center.

Self center would apply if I had control on what CFS3 where going to develope in the Future and you did not want to develope it and I would force you to.

Now that self center. But by a writing a simple opinion you call me self center. Thats rediculous use of the language.

Bear, once a long time ago Buddah met this man who wanted to talk to him very badly. He wanted tell him how much he hated him and how he really felt about his teachings.
He foul and cursed at Buddah as Buddah only listen in silence. After about a hour pass. He ask Buddah what he thought of all the things he said to him. Buddah reponce was that all he could hear was the wind hitting this geltelman face as he saw him spiting against the wind for over a hour.

If you read all the post I have written and compare them to the ones you have written. You will realize you have been spiting against the wind.

This is Bear describing Bear"Pompous, self important, condescending blowhards ". Now Bear thats a bit Harsh on your self.

If you can so Mad over a simple matter of opinion on the Future of this program. That can only mean you guys need  to chill and place thing in proper prespective.

James007

PS Remember this is the Holiday to share and be kind to each other. have a wonder Holiday with your fimalies. Spend it in health and prosperity.

I know deep down you guys are nice guys. You just need to practice been nice to others more often.





 
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Reply #71 - Dec 15th, 2005 at 3:37am

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Quite simple put, the future of CFS3, as it stands now, is WWI OFF, due out this Sunday, and MAW, which both will keep it's developers busy for quite some time to come to accurately render these both chapters of history.
Now come Mr James 007 and asks for the Pacific in CFS3, implying in the next sentence that we are the grave diggers of CFS3 if don't do it, and also implying that we short-sighted ETO nutters.
Turn it as you want, that is offensive and inappropriate and barely a question of democracy or whatever you try to talk into a hobby in which you are only involved from a Spectator's position.
For the record, we practice democratic rules within our groups to which you do not belong thus you can't claim the right to have a say at all.
 

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Reply #72 - Dec 15th, 2005 at 2:07pm

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Hey, Mathias turn as you may. I was just a opinion. Being a Eropean nutter is not a insult. Is all right to be a European nutter. You have express your preference and I have my view.

All I was try to point to you that you might enrich your flying experience if you would created and fly in different Thearers with different planes.

As for saying you grave diggers of CFS3 is just a opinion. Not a insult. You may differ from my opinion but I have the righ to things as I see it. There is no point in insulting or degrade any one for expressing his view.

We fought World war two to be able express our self as long as we do not offend any one or tramp on some one else rights.

I had the wrong impression about this forum and your group. I though like in other forums every one participated in the development of the Sim. Every one has a input or least the right to be heard and respected regardless of his experience developmental involvement.

I see thats not the way things work here. A small group decides who can say what and and do what. Boy that remind a regime some 60 years ago. Thats the reason we play this game. To enjoy the planes of that era and to recall the sacrifyces made by men of that era to keep us free from groups like this one.

Boy you have manage to decrease my desire to fly in this Sim.

I see this program belongs to you and not to the CFS3 community as whole.

Mathias have great Chrismas, Germany is beautiful country with beatiful prople. Long live freedom and long live Democracy.

James007
 
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Reply #73 - Dec 15th, 2005 at 2:33pm

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James,

Have read one response after another by you and its obvious you just don't get it. So why not just let it go & take a hike as I don't think you are going to get anything from us that will please you.

Since you have no interest in what I do in my "off" time I thought I might as well tell you a little more about what I do in my "off" time.

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I also build high performance engines & cars.

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If you get the idea that I am not really paying any serious attention to you, congrats you have broken the code.

BTW The respect you desire is earned not asked for.  You know what they say about having to ask.
 
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Reply #74 - Dec 15th, 2005 at 5:23pm

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I am a short sighted ETO nutter

James is right

All of my previous posts were influenced by medication (Katahu's to blame) except for the ones where I used text

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