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Sep 11th, 2005 at 9:34pm

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I have a pretty regular system.

Hewlett Packard Pavilion A316n
2.4GHz Intel Celeron Processor
256MB DDR SDRAM Memory
80Gb Ultra DMA Hard Drive
CD-RW/DVD-Rom Combo Drive
Intel Extream Graphics with up to 64Mb Sharded video memory
Windows XP Home Edition

I want to overclock & push my computer as far as it will go. Any help is greatly appriciated...

Thx
 
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Reply #1 - Sep 11th, 2005 at 10:09pm

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If you need to ask directions to o/c, then I believe you've never done this before. Well, let me tell you. Its very risky if you don't know what your doing. It is very possbile you will lose your entire computer.

I highly recommend you do NOT o/c your computer now as you lack the knowledge to. Read my guide on overclocking for a general idea of what it is first:
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=tweek;action=display;num=1...
 
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Reply #2 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 10:40am

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If you need to ask directions to o/c, then I believe you've never done this before. Well, let me tell you. Its very risky if you don't know what your doing. It is very possbile you will lose your entire computer.

I highly recommend you do NOT o/c your computer now as you lack the knowledge to. Read my guide on overclocking for a general idea of what it is first:
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=tweek;action=display;num=1...


Ok turns out I am not as dumb as I thought. The thing I didn't know was that this was done by the Bios cpu setup. I have done this b4, but that was to pump up a like 1997 Compaq so I could sell it. that piece of junk only had 2 gb HD & a pentium 1 processor. That thing really sucked, I got it to go fast enoght to get $150 out of it. But my pc that I have now cost over $1000$ & I am not sure if I want to risk it the way I did with that old compaq. The compaq really didn't matter, If I fryed it, "Oh Well" didn't really matter.
 
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Reply #3 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 3:19pm
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Before you think of overclocking, beef up your system a bit... 512 ram would be a start, 1 gig better, oh and a new video card wouldn't go amiss either.. maybe a 6600gt or better.  Wink
As for overclocking your PCs to sell them.....  Undecided
O/c is for experienced PC users, that's why i don't do it  Grin ... i'd suggest you stay the same  Smiley
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Reply #4 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 5:38pm

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As for overclocking your PCs to sell them.....  Undecided


Why not, it worked.....
 
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Reply #5 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 5:42pm

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oh & BTW, Overclocking does not void the system warrenty. Now adding hardware to your pc does void the warrenty. I know this because I have a extended warrenty on on my HP PC, and took a little bit of time to read through the policy.
 
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Reply #6 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 5:45pm

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Before you think of overclocking, beef up your system a bit... 512 ram would be a start, 1 gig better, oh and a new video card


Actully I am pretty satisfied with the specs I have. I just like to do everthing top notch. I wanted to O/C my pc to force it to run at it's best.
 
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Reply #7 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 8:46pm

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oh & BTW, Overclocking does not void the system warrenty.


It does void the warranty if you buy the whole computer from a OEM like dell or HP. If you build the computer and overclock something, then it depends on the manufacturer of the part. Some manufacturer's warrenty's do not void when overclocking, especially the warranty's of very high-end motherboards 'meant' for overclocking.
 
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Reply #8 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 11:39pm

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I have a pretty regular system.

Hewlett Packard Pavilion A316n
2.4GHz Intel Celeron Processor
256MB DDR SDRAM Memory
80Gb Ultra DMA Hard Drive
CD-RW/DVD-Rom Combo Drive
Intel Extream Graphics with up to 64Mb Sharded video memory
Windows XP Home Edition


If by "regular" you mean the inadequate and overpriced fodder that the big firms feed to the masses, yes, I would totally agree.

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I want to overclock & push my computer as far as it will go.


That would be reasonably simple had the manufacturer not messed up an otherwise reasonable technology with their inane policy of disabling most overclocking features on the mainboards they distribute.

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Actully I am pretty satisfied with the specs I have.


The reason you are satisfied is because you don't have the knowledge, need or experience to determine otherwise. What you have is a very poor system indeed compared to the likes of which is suitable for modern Flight Simulation use.

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I just like to do everthing top notch.


That is not evident from your choice of system, however, this again reflects lack of knowledge, stick around these forums and learn more.

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I wanted to O/C my pc to force it to run at it's best.


Unfortunately, "it's best" is not going to rate amongst the PC's that most people here use. I'm not being snobby, just trying to bring about some awareness on your part. If you actually saw what a decent system is capable of, you would surely be amazed and start to understand what I'm talking about.


At a BASIC LEVEL, the PC's chipset will determine it's overall potential. That means the mainboard must be right.

Next, a celeron CPU is not a suitable type for gaming-simming.

256mb of RAM leaves your rig starving for memory and precludes any performance characteristics possible.

Intel Extream Graphics STEALS, not "shares" up to 64mb of video ram from your system, thus knocking your available ram back to practically zilch..... besides the fact that "onboard" graphics and lack of a dedicated video card are paramount to a performance "dead end".

256mb total less 64mb = 192mb less 124mb for windows to load = 68mb........ not exactly a performance rig and exactly a very poor one.

I hope this has been somewhat informative, and I'm sure plenty in these forums will be more than happy to help you learn more.

If you are used to paying Hewlett Packard prices, then you will find solice in these forums, as there are price competitive solutions available.

If you expect to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse, then I fear you risk disappointment.    Wink
 
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Reply #9 - Sep 13th, 2005 at 12:24am

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Well said, congo.

I wanted to say the same thing (and I sorta tried to), but thought it might a offend him.

But yeah, if you want, we can teach you to build your own computer thats much more powerful than anything HP has got for the SAME price (maybe even less).
 
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Reply #10 - Sep 13th, 2005 at 1:11am

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All may not be lost, it depends on the mainboard HP fitted to your PC, if lucky, you have some reasonable upgrade options, yet this involves some significant investment, taking the shine right away from your HP product.

If unlucky, and sadly, this is the problem with your type of system, it is not cost effective or even possible to convert the rig into a decent performer.
 
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If by "regular" you mean the inadequate and overpriced fodder that the big firms feed to the masses, yes, I would totally agree.


That would be reasonably simple had the manufacturer not messed up an otherwise reasonable technology with their inane policy of disabling most overclocking features on the mainboards they distribute.


The reason you are satisfied is because you don't have the knowledge, need or experience to determine otherwise. What you have is a very poor system indeed compared to the likes of which is suitable for modern Flight Simulation use.


That is not evident from your choice of system, however, this again reflects lack of knowledge, stick around these forums and learn more.


Unfortunately, "it's best" is not going to rate amongst the PC's that most people here use. I'm not being snobby, just trying to bring about some awareness on your part. If you actually saw what a decent system is capable of, you would surely be amazed and start to understand what I'm talking about.


At a BASIC LEVEL, the PC's chipset will determine it's overall potential. That means the mainboard must be right.

Next, a celeron CPU is not a suitable type for gaming-simming.

256mb of RAM leaves your rig starving for memory and precludes any performance characteristics possible.

Intel Extream Graphics STEALS, not "shares" up to 64mb of video ram from your system, thus knocking your available ram back to practically zilch..... besides the fact that "onboard" graphics and lack of a dedicated video card are paramount to a performance "dead end".

256mb total less 64mb = 192mb less 124mb for windows to load = 68mb........ not exactly a performance rig and exactly a very poor one.

I hope this has been somewhat informative, and I'm sure plenty in these forums will be more than happy to help you learn more.

If you are used to paying Hewlett Packard prices, then you will find solice in these forums, as there are price competitive solutions available.

If you expect to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse, then I fear you risk disappointment.    Wink


The Hewlett Packard Pavilion is my second computer.
I have a Sony VAIO VGC-RA940G

Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 670 with Hyper-Threading Technology (3.80GHz)
Microsoft® Windows® Media Center Edition 2005
1TB 7200rpm SATA HD
2GB (512MB X 4) Ram
NVIDIA® GeForce™ 6600GT (256MB Video Memory)
GeForce™ 6600
DVD+R write (2.4x MAX)

That was $3049.99, but I didn't have to pay for that. That was givin to me as a HS Graduation present.

The HP is just my Second PC.
 
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Reply #12 - Sep 13th, 2005 at 10:11pm

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The Hewlett Packard Pavilion is my second computer.
I have a Sony VAIO VGC-RA940G

Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 670 with Hyper-Threading Technology (3.80GHz)
Microsoft® Windows® Media Center Edition 2005
1TB 7200rpm SATA HD
2GB (512MB X 4) Ram
NVIDIA® GeForce™ 6600GT (256MB Video Memory)
GeForce™ 6600
DVD+R write (2.4x MAX)

That was $3049.99, but I didn't have to pay for that. That was givin to me as a HS Graduation present.

The HP is just my Second PC.


I don't think a 1 terabyte drive exists. I think you have a bunch of smaller hard drives stripe RAIDed together.

All in all though, its a pretty decent gaming system, though I would upgrade the video card to at least a 6800 GT.
 
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Reply #13 - Sep 14th, 2005 at 4:24am

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I should have realised that the president of an airline would have more than one PC ......  Roll Eyes

Sorry.

....... and my other car is a Mercedes Benz!   Grin
 
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Reply #14 - Sep 14th, 2005 at 7:20pm

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I don't think a 1 terabyte drive exists. I think you have a bunch of smaller hard drives stripe RAIDed together.

All in all though, its a pretty decent gaming system, though I would upgrade the video card to at least a 6800 GT.


Sure Does exist. I do indeed have a 1TB SATA Hard Drive. However I do believe that a 1TB HD only is availible in a Sony VAIO, I know 100% that Hewlett Packard or Dell does not offer this large of a Hard Drive.

Go to this page

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_Display...

That page is a Specification Page for the VAIO Model that I have. There you will see the customizable options for my model VAIO. Also you will notice that the Sony VAIO also has a 1.6TB Sata HD availible.
 
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