here is an article on the helios crash and the most likely cause.  I dont know how credible it is, but from the article it sounds like those guys never should have stepped foot in a cockpit.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/09/06/news/crash.php

its 3 pages

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Well give us a chance. Like many others I was fast asleep when you posted it.

Not that I would have replied anyway. This is pure hearsay & the worrying trend of a newspaper prejudging a case without knowing all the facts. Let's wait for the official report to be published. Maybe then we can discuss it sensibly without all these unconfirmed accusations against people who can't defend themselves or their reputations.