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Aug 28th, 2005 at 1:50pm

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All seems to work on the upgrade, but with the 2 old CDdrives and 2 floppies it is still crowded in there, despite the roomier new box from the municibal dump.

Now Networking again.
I managed before the XP to 98, when all said forget it get another XP, now that I have two XPs can I get networking? NO.

Please do'nt say now "get another Asus".

The new Asus installs various LAN options, Nvidia, Marvel, Yougon etc adaptors, and in a strange way networks the old XP PC mobo which has no LAN support but has an ethernet card fitted.
This networking, still with the old crossover cable
a) is slower than the one achieved on XP to 98 &
b) With broadband installed on the Asus, the old PC
  will not ICS to the it.
  BUT oddly enough, when I move the broadband to the
  old PC, Asus networks to the broadband !.

I installed an ethernet card on the Asus, but unfortunately there is no way I can get it to install "32bit PCI 10/100M Ethernet Adapter" drivers for it, like on the other XP PC.
They are no where to be found now. Where the heck did they come from in the first place, there was no driver floppy with the ethernet cards so they must have come from within  the same XPsp2.

Any help on these?                   luke

PS.
is there any way to transfer my ID / password and what Simviation needs to recognise me on the new PC?
I put in the "luke" and the password No. I used originally on the old PC, but is not recognised.

WOOOPS disregard, I put the Nos in capitals, silly me!
 

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Reply #1 - Aug 28th, 2005 at 1:59pm

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Network drivers for the A8N are in the nVidia driver package. The Marvell software is only needed for the remote cable tester readout.

Don't know which version you have exactly (as the dual one could have one chip channel and one from the nforce)

 

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Reply #2 - Aug 28th, 2005 at 2:22pm

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Where is the nVidia driver package? in the Asus CDdrive? I run all that lot and "32bit PCI 10/100M Ethernet Adapter"  would have been found by the install drivers auto search.

At the moment the network works with driver:
"Marvell Yukon 88E 8001 / 8003 / 8010 pci Gigabit"

the version of what in your phrase:
"....which version you have exactly (as the dual one could have one chip channel and one from the nforce)...."

The Asus CD says:
Nvidia nForce4 series, chipset support CD Rev.99.03
and an M525 No.
 

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Reply #3 - Aug 28th, 2005 at 5:41pm

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Board version: some have 2 LAN connectors

About the software: the LAN stuff should be in the main chipset driver (at least that worked for me)
 

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Reply #4 - Aug 28th, 2005 at 5:57pm

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you can also download it from their website.

I recommend downloading them cause the ones on the cd are almost always outdated.
 

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Reply #5 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 7:47am

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I got the "Chipset_WinXP64_V665" but no way will it install.
How on earth do you do it?

Do I have to get the Bios as well:

By the way Belarc gives my Mboard as:-
Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. A8N-SLI DELUXE 1.XX
Serial Number: 123456789000
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE ACPI BIOS Revision 1006 03/03/2005

Also is my mem installed OK as Belark shows?
Slot 'A0' has 512 MB
Slot 'A1' is Empty
Slot 'A2' has 512 MB
Slot 'A3' is Empty

Thanx           luke
 

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Reply #6 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 12:14pm

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Looks like a decent dual channel setup (but the 4 'channel A' things are a bit weird to me)

BIOS is recent enough

What is the error message?
 

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Reply #7 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 1:23pm

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Ivan,
no error message involved, just that I cannot network proper with broadband dialing the two XPs together, like I did on XP to 98.

The Asus PC does not find the driver for this net adapter I fitted"32bit PCI 10/100M Ethernet Adapter", so i followde your advice to get drivers from Asus, but this "Chipset_WinXP64_V665" I got will not unzip as all the others do.

Do you know anything about this?

See if you can make senes of what I wrote previously.      thnx     luke
 

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Reply #8 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 3:45pm

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I got a 'nVidia nforce networking controller' for the LAN stuff (same board but with 1 instead of 2 connectors). That is one, the other one should be either the marvell or the youngon
 

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Reply #9 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 8:03pm

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I have 2 XP puters that networked great until a year ago then they quit. No matter what I did I could not get them to network.

Two weeks ago I looked at the network and it was working. I have no idea what changed or why it is now working.

 

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Reply #10 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 3:42am

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@Luke: get the drivers from the nVidia site (and don't install the IDE part) These should work
 

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Reply #11 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 6:23am

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Ivan,
It is really a mistery, everybody advised that networking XP & 98 was not on, and yet somehow it worked, transfer files and ICS too.

Just got the Nvidia you said & installed them in directory.

Went to Local Area Connection to update the
"NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller" ethernet driver , but it said could not find a better match than what it has.
Was this the right place I went to update?         luke

PS. Richard, what setup did you have, did you use
1. a crossover cable with PCI ethernet cards, or
2. the Motherboards LAN, or
3. was it Routers etc. ?

Now I am getting only Asus to old XP PC and only with the Asus LAN + a card in the old XP PC.               luke
 

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Reply #12 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 11:53am

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LAN card part usually has less updates compared to the chipset part... nothing wrong with that.

And about your hardware choice: my systems have Asus motherboard, and if there is no onboard LAN, i put in an Intel Pro/100 card (works out of the box)... Usually i get these from the discount box for about 7-10 euros each (shop price is 15 euros for OEM).
 

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Reply #13 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 12:41pm

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Luke,

The drivers that came with the mainboard on the disk include the ethernet driver (onboard LAN) and you should have installed when you first got windows up and running along with all the other chipset drivers.

The LAN driver should never need to be updated, because either the LAN works with the drivers or it won't, there isn't any optimising a new driver will accomplish, unlike video drivers.

You then need to identify which network adapters you are dealing with, no good setting up the marvel with drivers and settings if your cable is in another adapter  Wink

Make sure that you refer to those adapters you are using when making settings , assigning IP's, giving FW permissions etc.

You are going to have to re-learn all the stuff you did before and then get the connection working properly again.

It doesnt make a speck of difference whether it's win98 or XP on the second PC with ICS. The only rule is that the XP (now either one of your PC's) must be the one with the internet connection, and since you dumped 98, that rule no longer applies.
 

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Reply #14 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 12:49pm

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The Invidia drivers I tried to install were on the Asus XP.

Should they be installed also on the other old (non Asus, Jetaway mobo) XP?

The ethernet card was (£5) 3eurs from the fair.

But do you use Router, Switches etc?, or just the crossover cable?

Well any way, how the heck can I get these two to network and share the broadband.

If have go back to the 98 old PC the Asus will still not recognise the card & will want to use its LAN.

                luke

 

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