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Aug 15th, 2005 at 12:00pm

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Ok, there are a few things I want to ask here.

I looked all over the internet for an answer but I couldn't find one.

I would like to know details on what happened at Stade airfeild near the Hamburg area, apart from nachtjägers (nightfighters) were stationed there.

Even any detail on what plane types where stationed there. All detail is welcome.

Or you can just start a discussion on the German night fighter force which I find fascinating as I have that sick twisted mind that has something about the grim night hunting in an evil-looking aircraft. Grin



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Reply #1 - Aug 15th, 2005 at 12:13pm

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Try a search on Google. I found this which suggests that Stade is still in use. http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list/Digest.Europa-List.2003-05-10.txt Quote:
> Date: 14.-15. Juni 2003
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Place: Stade Airfield N53 33.6 E009 29.9, 123.00 MHz, rw 11/29, circuit to the south, 1000 ft. Watch out for gliders, pedestriens, dogs, and motor cars on or nearby the runway.
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We will provide for beverages and snacks at the airfield.
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Dinner: June 14, 2003 19 h at Gasthaus zur Tenne, Agathenburg (nearby, 8 to 10 Euro plus beverages)
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Accomodation: June 14.-15 2003: Gasthaus zur Tenne, Agathenburg. single 29, double 47, triple 61 Euro. I booked all beds in advance.
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Also this should give you a start. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3897/is_200306/ai_n9262069
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"It is February 13, 1944. The controller at Divisional Operation Theater at Stade [Higher Command, 60 miles west of Hamburg] who is following the bomber stream along the North Sea over Holland and the Frisian Islands expects air raids against northern German cities or Berlin. We get the order to move from our home base of Twente [Holland] to Wittmundhaven, a night-fighter airfield near the coast. This is necessary to intercept the bombers.
 
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Reply #2 - Aug 15th, 2005 at 2:24pm
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Or you can just start a discussion on the German night fighter force which I find fascinating as I have that sick twisted mind...


Nothing sick about finding the other side good.

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...that has something about the grim night hunting in an evil-looking aircraft. Grin


Not as evil looking as sone english designs. Roll Eyes ;P
 
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Reply #3 - Aug 15th, 2005 at 3:01pm

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Not as evil looking as sone english designs. Roll Eyes ;P

That chip on your shoulder is showing again Bjorn. Tongue Wink Most nightfighters look sinister. Creatures of the night & all that. Maybe more so in the case of the German ones mainly because of the camo & Radar arrays. Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #4 - Aug 15th, 2005 at 4:14pm

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I tend to agree, German nightfighters from that era were pretty sinister looking. I am quite fascinated with all of those old German planes, especially the early jets. At one time I had a whole collection of jets from WWII for FS... before my hard drive died.
 
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Reply #5 - Aug 20th, 2005 at 5:14am

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Nothing sick about finding the other side good.

Actually it's a morbid, sick twisted fascination for sinister looking aircraft.

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Reply #6 - Aug 20th, 2005 at 8:20pm

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I may be wrong, (only going off the name and location) but it sounds like an airfield that is a sub-project of Aden Airays.

Main site http://www.adenairways.com/

RAF Schleswig site: http://www.adenairways.com/schleswig/

might find some info there.
 
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Reply #7 - Aug 21st, 2005 at 4:29pm
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Actually it's a morbid, sick twisted fascination for sinister looking aircraft.


Also nothing bad about that. In fact, most english avoation enthusiasts have the same attitude as you. xD
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Reply #8 - Aug 21st, 2005 at 4:37pm

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Also nothing bad about that. In fact, most english avoation enthusiasts have the same attitude as you. xD
*Ducks and runs*

Tongue Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Tongue Wink
 
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Reply #9 - Aug 22nd, 2005 at 7:36am

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I stand by my opinion Bjorn. Read the whole thing: Quote:
sick twisted mind that has something about the grim night hunting in an evil-looking aircraft



*Loads up Bf110G4 nachtjager with marmelade ammo and finds the route to Bjorn's house* Grin Grin Grin        Cheesy

Thanks Igorski! Stade was not much to do with Schleswig, but Schleswig was a nachtjager airfeild near a big German industrial city (Keil I think?). I'll check out that scenery.

Pardon me but I clicked on the link to Schleswig Wartime and I think I've seen it somewhere...?

Thanks anyway.
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Reply #10 - Aug 22nd, 2005 at 8:15am

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Tongue Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Tongue Wink

Spitfire, schmittfire.  The Ju 87V1 is the true beaut' of the skies! Grin
 
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Reply #11 - Aug 23rd, 2005 at 4:06am

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Okay, Schleswig nachtjager base scenery I am making for CFS2 shall be done soon enough! Watch SimV... Grin

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Reply #12 - Aug 23rd, 2005 at 5:46am
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Neat Tripod banner...
 
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Cor, this page saved my bacon... http://www.aircraft-charter-world.com/airports/europe/germany.htm#S

Gives me detail on the airfeild (runway at least, better than nothin')

Hey Heretic, you running for dear life yet? *fires 20mm and 30mm cannon right on target*

I don't know why so little info remains about Stade, I mean it was a nachtjäger airfeild near one of Germany's biggest industrial cities for crying out LOUD!!!

loud!!

loud!


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Quote:
schmittfire

If you are wondering how to say spitfire in German in would actually be spitfeur.

Well I've got the info I need now, but any more will be appreciated guys Wink

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Reply #15 - Aug 23rd, 2005 at 6:08am
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Hey Heretic, you running for dear life yet? *fires 20mm and 30mm cannon right on target*


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*Bombardier yells over radio: Arrggghhh crap! Shocked Shocked Shocked I'm heading back to base! Shocked Boom! Shocked Oh nuts, engine 2 is hit Undecided, I'll limp back on the other Wink*
 
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*Bombardier yells over radio: Arrggghhh crap! Shocked Shocked Shocked I'm heading back to base! Shocked Boom! Shocked Oh nuts, engine 2 is hit Undecided, I'll limp back on the other Wink*

Singing all the while?
We're coming in on a wing and a prayer
W'e're coming in on a wing and a prayer
Though there's one motor gone
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We're coming in on a wing and a prayer... 8)
 
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*Goes back to Björn's and shakes hands*  Wink
 
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Reply #19 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 7:09am
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*Gets our the beer barrels*
 
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*Goes back to Björn's and shakes hands*  Wink
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*Gets our the beer barrels*

After having your plane half-blasted out of the air, I imagine your hands would be shaky -- of course, I'm not sure you'll be any steadier after emptying that barrel even though you may think so.
The former assumes that Bjon share in emptying the contents in the normal way and not clobber somebody with the barrels as they were about to do to him with bombs Tongue Grin.
 
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After having your plane half-blasted out of the air, I imagine your hands would be shaky -- of course

Yes, after they were nearly shot off by an 88mm flak shell!
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The former assumes that Bjon share in emptying the contents in the normal way and not clobber somebody with the barrels as they were about to do to him with bombs

The Bf110 in nightfighter role didn't carry bombs Wink
 
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Yes, after they were nearly shot off by an 88mm flak shell!
The Bf110 in nightfighter role didn't carry bombs Wink

The Hawker Hurricane couldn't carry rockets and bombs in the original CFS1 format -- but mine can 8) (12 rockets and 4 bombs Shocked)! Still flies well with a full load -- maybe I should add more? Wink
 
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I thought better of the reponse I started -- seemed too "terroristic" -- but I may really have to cheat in the .air file to get it off the ground, let alone fly it like a fighter-bomber Tongue.
If I crash trying to take off from the runway, the enemy should give me a citation for being one of the most effective pilots they have -- excuse me -- had! [oh, well, it is a history forum]  Grin Grin
 
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My model-making skills are low, but I think I could make a model of a large-winged monster plane. It will need to be converted to CFS2 (or whatever you use) and You can chuck like 20 rockets under each wing, 4 bombs under the fuselage and 4 torpedoes under the fuselage. Lol!!!!! I must see how it flies (and fights Wink).
 
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Oh yeah and 12 20 mm cannons in the nose and 10 50 cal in each wing would be good too.... lol!!
 
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Put some of that arsenal in the rear: when they come up behind me I can shoot them out of the sky and become rocket propelled at the same time. 8)
I've pretty much stuck with CFS1 (though I've got the CFS2 disks -- and was so disappointed with CFS3 that I immediatelty uninstalled it -- somewhere around). If you'd noticed in a few of my posts, I've been working on WWI for CFS1. I never did get a Plane Builder so I have to rely on editing & retexturing what someone else has provided. Still haven't found an RE8 so I'll probably stick with edited substitutes when I upload.
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One day I might as well do an utterly crazy DP of some plane. 20 guns in front, 20 in the rear, crazy Grin 10 rockets under each wing. 4 of those 2000 pounders and two torpedoes! How's that? Grin Grin Grin Shocked 8)
 
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Sounds like you'll have quite a blast Shocked 8)!
 
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Or a demolition plane with instead of lights som fatal_explosion effects all around including in the player's plane! Blows up the plane and anything around it!! Grin Grin
 
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Sort of like the atomic hand grenade with an effective radius of more than a mile: unfortunately, the average soldier can only throw it 40 feet. Shocked 8)
 
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That sounds like something our boffins would dream up. Roll Eyes Cheesy

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Sort of like the atomic hand grenade with an effective radius of more than a mile: unfortunately, the average soldier can only throw it 40 feet. Shocked 8)


Watched Starship Troopers again?
 
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What I meant is an Fw190A8 that goes into a formation of B17s and press L on the keyboard and kaboom you go down with a nice few B17s. Horrible Undecided but good for CFS2 Grin

In FS2002 Stade is just a concrete strip with nothing but grass around it. Wittmundhafen and Gilze Rijen especialy are more than that though 8)
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Only watched it once -- the joke predates it by years, however. Heard it about 7th grade and it wasn't new then.
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Yeah,thanks,and stuff...
 
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What if it was like an artillery shell or something?
 
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Reply #39 - Sep 17th, 2005 at 4:39am

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What if it was like an artillery shell or something?
Then it wouldn't be a "hand" grenade (aside from grenade launchers -- of which, a standard one still wouldn't send it far enough). It's strictly an intended joke, anyway. Wink
 
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Reply #40 - Sep 19th, 2005 at 7:12am

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Lol H!

Ok found some more info:

Stade mostly based Bf110s and Do217s.

When the Ta154 Moskito came out it flew for a brief time at Stade.

Heck, it's better than nothing!!! Cheesy
 
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