we already have multiple carrier take-off's.  

That great news. EAW is a great Simulator not better Than CFS2 but a great Simulator never the less.

Can you Imagine if Microsoft would do the same thing for us. Its already a great Simulator.

Unfortunually I don not think they will ever do it for the CFS2 program. CFS2 uses basiclly the same code as FS9. That would give other people the incentive to break that code as well.

Lets not forget that FS9 is Microsofts bread and butter when it comes flight Similators.

Thats what I have read from people that know more about this matters than I do.

Its nice to think about it dow.

James007

I think what is ment by multiple carrier takeoffs is that your wingmen take off from the carrier with you instead of flying overhead. And Microsoft should make radar guages, so that radar works specifically how it did in real life instead of just one d:omn Tactical Display. Nachtjager related...

You need more ATC related things. It just isn't real enough without somethings. Such as a 'get out of plane and run' feature, because I hate having to end the mission when I emergency land instead of having the pilot run away from the plane like in CFS3. Except that it is a command, not an automatic thing, so you can do it if you have made a wheels down landing it isn't automatic. If it was you could just be parking the plane before ending the mission by pressing X and it would show your pilot running away from it like he's abandoning it. Some of those CFS3 features would be nice, as well as some Fs2002 features (ATC, transponders). I started a wishlist for a CFS4 just to gather ideas and I got like 3 people doing what I asked them to do at the topic and I got like 70 people posting about how there was going to be a CFS4 but it got ditched and other things off-topic. It's typical in Simviation but I like it here. I will try again at a wishlist and hope it works...

Why don't they listen to us and make an even better CFS2? Microsoft has a great sim and don't we all think they should continue on it?

Happy flying,



Bombardier

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well not really, for it to be a true compact sim you would have to loose the autogen to keep the frames up and then you would have to rework it to allow campaings and so on.

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well u can get them to take off but i think YOU have to be THEIR wingman

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I like being my own ATC as for me the ATC in FS2002 and FS9 is just lacking plain common sense at the mo

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Well as far as M$ are conserned CSF2 is dead, yes it is, from a business side they are no longer making money from it and so they have lost intrest in it

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I disagree with you here as CFS3 does have the potential for being one heck of a combat sim, theres just a couple things wrong with it,

1, it was rushed
2, u need a good pc to run it

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Agree here is the unhurried CFS3

http://www.medairwar.com

http://www.off.oldbrowndog.net

BTW the lack of a world map is not a show stopper as you can build any map you want that will exceed the combat range of most WWII aircraft.  

About the only real life mission you can't fly on a continuous map would be Newark NJ to the UK, Wichita KS to the Marianas ferry missions or Marianas to Tokyo B-29 raids.  But most guys are not going to fly for 13-14 hours anyway.



The MAW map allows for Operation Tidal Wave from Benghazi to Ploesti.

BEAR

This is not weather CFS2 is dead or not. Its about its basic structure Idea. Its the ability to keep any new combat Sim running for years by been able to fly and fight all over the world.

I believe that a Sim capable to expand all over the world will be alot more viable than one constrain to just one Theater of war.

Just Imagine if you would not have been able to expand CFS2 to other areas of the World and incorporate new planes in to it. This program would have dead a long time ago.

What has has keep it alive all this time is its all the improvements made by all the people devoted to it.

If they have been able to incorporate a World map to all the Civilian Flight Simulator they can also do it for future Combat Simulators.

This only a opinion

James007

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Not really, I would rate it as no more then a nice to have.  In all the years we worked with CFS2 I only flew from the Marianas to Tokyo (on autopilot  ) a few times to test our B-29's fuel consumption.  

I have no interest in long ferry flights so its just not a big deal for me.  In CFS3 we can build 1000+ mile maps anyplace in the world covering 99% of all combat missions so I really don't see much of a short coming.

If the trade off is a world map vs. fully functional crew stations the crew stations will win every time for me.

That being said EAW is the best WWII sim yet produced in terms of immersion & an updated version will be a knockout.

Of course I still believe Falcon 4 which also does not have world maps either, but full theater development capability, is the best home computer simulator ever built. As do the real life F-16 pilots in my on-line F4 group the 257th Talons.

MAW may make a late this year release. The distribution plan has not been finalized but the software is very big, IIRC bigger then the original CFS3 that it is derived from.

BEAR

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Well if we are in daydream land I would take CFS3 with a clickable TrackIR capable 3D cockpit,  CFS4's terrain & other enhancements + CFS2's fuel tank selection, carriers & world map.  

Add in EAW's 250+ plane , all in the air at the same time, formations & Woten controler along with Falcon 4's dynamic campaign engine, avionics/comms models, flight system management, mission recon, BDA, FAC & ATC.  

If y'all have never seen Falcon 4 before the basic engine start trainer will give you some idea of the level of detail.  99% of the items you see in the cockit actually functions.

Falcon 4 cold engine startup proceedure. Run the utility & click on the green circles to advance.

http://www.avhistory.org/movies/rampstart.exe

In the game if you go with a ramp start it will take about 10-12 minutes.  The inertial guidance system takes about 7-8 minutes to figure out where it is on the face of the earth.  

This is a link to a navagation tutorial

http://users.skynet.be/F4Checklists/F4tacan.htm

BEAR

Bear that the most ojective post I have ever read from you. I"m proud of you. I totally agree with you. That would be the ultimate Sim of all time if done properly.

I"m not familiar with the Falcon-4 program but I will take your word for it.

Dcunning I think Zero is right about the suppose code being release for EAW.

Here is what I know at this moment about activities in this and other in the World Sim.

CFS2:Bombadier is about to realese his Night campaign about the Night air war over Europe.
2.Stitz is develping a World war 1 campaign as well.
3.Wolfi is in the process  of making ground objects for the European theater as well.
4.Xavier is making around 70 new airbases for Japan. Now thats kool.

CFS3:1.MAW is still in development. To bee realese in the future.http://www.medairwar.com
2.There is also a World war one in development to be realese in the Future.
http://www.off.oldbrowndog.net
3.A Korean project has been release in the Netwing by Mathias in the CFS3 campaign section.http://www.netwings.org/library/CFS3%5FKorea/. Check it out.

EAW code is to be realese to the community soon. Thats exciting.

FB/PF new patch is to bee uploaded in the next few weeks. It includes the Ju88 and some Japanese and Italian planes.

A new Sim will soon to be realese. Its call Wings of Victory. Its base on the Battle of Britain. Its little short in scope but it looks good on paper never the less.

I recommend you guys to buy it if you can afford it. That way it might induce other developers into realizing that their is money to be made with developing this type of games.
Please join us with whatever talent you may have and help us and your self in the development of this great hobby.

This has been only a opinion

James007