Simviation Forum - Joysticks

Aug 10^th, 2005 at 6:53am

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An open question here - all opinions invited:
Who makes the best joystick and what is the opinion on force feedback?

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Reply #1 - Aug 10^th, 2005 at 6:58am

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Hi Townie!

As far as my experience allows me to comment, Saitek make the best affordable joysticks. Probably the best one to get now is there X52, especially since its reveision!

I have never used FF, so I can't say there.

Of course if one wants to burn ones wallet then theres always CH... Wink

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Reply #2 - Aug 13^th, 2005 at 6:10pm

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I have the Saitek X45 and it comes with a variety of function. Costed me about $50 USD.

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Reply #3 - Aug 14^th, 2005 at 3:35am

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FFB is a novelty item. It doesn't reflect real life stick feel either, though there are some similarities.

I would get a stick that is comfortable, a past experience with a saitek stick is remembered with disdain because of the lack of comfort and pain associated with it's use. I think they are better now, but beware, any sharp edges will hurt.

The stick MUST have a rudder axis in the form of a twist grip on the stick, if you find a stick with extra axis, they are a bonus, you can assign a proportional airbrake or prop pitch control for instance.

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Reply #4 - Aug 14^th, 2005 at 4:43pm

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I bought my X-45 for 99euros Tongue

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Reply #5 - Aug 14^th, 2005 at 10:59pm

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Jesus, translate that to USD. Shocked

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Reply #6 - Aug 15^th, 2005 at 6:26am

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I equate Euros and US Dollers as about the same. Grin

Have any of you had any experience with Logitec.
I have a Logitec Wingman II force feedback, but one of the axis (rudder) seems to have gone a bit ropey. The stick itself is not to bad, but if the problem is inherent I'll go for a different type next time around. Oh its also less than a year old.

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Reply #7 - Aug 15^th, 2005 at 12:58pm

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Get in the Logitech line with the others.

They have been notorious in the past is all I know. The rudder problem is typical.

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Reply #8 - Aug 15^th, 2005 at 2:32pm

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Logitech Wingman Force 3D.....£30...new...!

Very pleased with mine after my Microsoft Sidewinder II Force Feedback Pro lead went belly-up.... Cry

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...now that was a LOVELY, well made joystick, and lasted me for many years... Grin

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I always have force feed-back set to off, but you have to buy a force feed-back type joystick to get the "twist rudder and non auto-return-to-centre X/Y axis" operation... Wink

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I don't play "driving around/running around/flying around shooting things-type games" with my joystick, which is probably why my joysticks generally last well mechanically...!
I just cruise gently around the clouds in my baby Cessna...
...with my joystick in my hand... Wink

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Cheers all...!

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Reply #9 - Aug 16^th, 2005 at 10:28am

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There are plenty of rudder-on-stick joysticks that are non-FFB. Centering springs can also be removed if desired.

Fozzer, don't throw out the Sidewinder please, I may need some parts one day Wink

A guy in my squad just paid $300 Oz for one !

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Reply #10 - Aug 16^th, 2005 at 11:04am

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Going to get a Saitek when i have the money... Logitech centering is plain awful

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Reply #11 - Aug 16^th, 2005 at 12:55pm

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Don't get force feedback IMO. IL2/FB/Pacific fighters is the only sim I've used which simulates anything like the stick forces I'm used to...

Saitek X-45 and X-52 are good buys - I prefer the X-45 as the rudder is a bar on the front of the throttle rather than a twist grip, which is slightly more realistic...

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Reply #12 - Aug 16^th, 2005 at 2:49pm

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I would have thought that the X-45 and X-52 would be more suitable for helicopters...seperate cyclic and collective controls...?

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/pcgc.asp

The old Spit only has one 'stick, between the legs.. Wink

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(Exactly where your "joystick" should be...)... Wink

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My old Wingman performs admirably.even as a replacement for my '152's yoke... 8)...!

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Reply #13 - Aug 16^th, 2005 at 11:49pm

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The X-45 is really neat IMO.

I use to have a Logitech Wingman as well. You know, the regular kind that didn't have a rudder.

Quite pathetic as the cheap plastic tends to make some frightening cracking noise as I moved it around. Finally dumped it for the X-45.

I always wanted a control setup that had the throttle as a separate unit, but I never had the money. But now I do have money in the bank and the controls of my dreams. Grin

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Reply #14 - Aug 17^th, 2005 at 7:05am

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Well chaps, i've been down to the computer shop and I think I'm going to get the Saitek X52, it got lots of buttons and lights on it and it seems Saitek are a "trusted Manufacturer" Wink

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