I think http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=paywareshots;action=displa... answers your questions

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh once again my name pops up.

Krigl,

Thanks I'm glad you liked the shots but:

1)  Since I used payware scenery textues from FSscene my shots were payware no matter the clouds.

2) FE is only one payware program I use  to generate clouds etc........ more importantly I use Active Sky which costs MONEY and generates weather scenarios which would be impossible for you or anyone else who doesn't pay for it, or another program like it, to get.

The question you seem to be asking is whether clouds are enough to make something freeware or payware and  I would say yes.

FS Sky World isn't a bad program but Chris Willis (the designer) knew they weren't good enough (lacked volume and edge) so he decided to develop and join a payware program to improve them.

The same goes for FE water, waves, night textures, sky and clouds.

You might not think they're better but IMHO they are far far superior. In fact immeasurably superior. In fact so superior that their use would be unfair when compared to those that don't have them.

It is obvious from Lemoncat's shots that he knows how to set-up his machine and control his elements and just because he does doesn't mean that everyone does.

I would never stop you from posting in the freeware forums because of clouds or sky and I think that the mods would agree. Nobody wants to take you away from what you love so much.

Please try to understand that when you say you are not interested in payware that it really does sound very stupid in a payware forum.

In fact to me (now don't get mad ) it sounds ridiculous and without any meaning or value.

So why don't you just uninstall FE, since you don't think they are better, and go back to a freeware program? That will solve everything including anybody having to read anymore stupid and boring remarks about payware.

krigl - make sure you not only READ the post ozzy indicated, but you understand it.  It may not make any rhyme or reason with you, but that is THE RULE.

I really appreciate the creativity that goes into setting up the screenshots - payware, freeware, etc. and ultimately that's the fun part.

Having said that, if ANY part of the screenshot contains payware, or a payware effect, then it goes into payware screenshots.

If we find that someone posts a payware containing screenshot in the freeware section, a mod may be kind enough to move it.  However, the mod may also have had a bad day that day and simply delete it.

The issue has been discussed, hashed, and rehashed and the basic rule remains, any payware, and it goes into the payware forum.

Thanks for understanding.



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Okay everyone I accept your comments and will do as asked. I wrote my "I'm just going to do what I like" post because I was frustrated at simply being referred to the rules when I think my points are valid and wanted to see if anyone actually cared what I did.

Ramsa and all insulted by my "less creative shot", I apologise greatly, I didn't think what I said through very well, it was late. I just wanted to express that using a payware plane makes it a bit easier (if only a bit) to take a good shot and in a competition that's unfair.

Regarding saying "I'm not interested in payware" sounding stupid, maybe to you it does, but it is simply justifying why I don't want to post my shots of freeware planes/scenery in a payware forum where people are primarily interested in payware planes and scenery, whereas I am not because I can't afford it and window shopping is not my bag. Like I said in my long post (you may have missed it) the reason why I was here was to check out whether there was a problem with FE... as I didn't realise scenery also meant clouds.

Regarding uninstalling FE - no, it cost a lot of money for me... and I like the variety it gives and the psychadelic sunsets.... I may install another version of FS9 on another part of my hard drive and use that for freeware and competition shots.

Sorry guys for causing trouble, the posts are long because I care about this, thats all. I know I'm just one of many and you've got better things to do than read this boring stuff so....

...thanks for taking the time to explain your position to me: I understand that you really do care about the payware freeware thing and I'm going to go away now and leave you in peace.

With regards

Krigl

Oh yeah guys, please feel free to delete this post, I don't mind - why waste others' time!

I've just deleted my posts from this thread, don't want to upset anyone else. ...