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Jul 23rd, 2005 at 3:02pm

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Get two 10/100mbit Ethernet LAN cards and hook them up.  Instructions come with the cards.  Use the XP machine as the "server" (main machine) and the 98 machine as one of the nodes.

It is surprisingly simple.  Want to make it even easier... get XP on the other machine too....it's a snap then.

Wired network cards are about $10 around here.... or sometimes even cheaper on sale... in the $7.00 range.

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Reply #1 - Jul 23rd, 2005 at 3:19pm

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Hi Luke...!
A little bit of info from our side of the Pond...>>>

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0860716404....

http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/hardware/networking/productView.htm?quicklinx=37...

Cheers...!

Paul.

P.S. ...it looks as though Luke has deleted his original post....
...still, perhaps we can carry on with the subject of Local Area Network connecting advice...
 

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Reply #2 - Jul 23rd, 2005 at 5:23pm

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why the hell do people delete there posts..
 
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Reply #3 - Jul 24th, 2005 at 3:07am

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So SORRY Paul & Andy,    did I do it???,  no wonder I could not find it !   here it is again:-

"..........What is the simplest and cheapest way to network our two PCs in the same room, to use the broadband on either.
One 1500mhz has winXP & the other win98(very slow , also with USB).
I have a Serial cable DB9 & DB25 I used to "Laplink" my PCs, then both win98.
Thnx,     luke ................."

So my old cable is no good? Do I have to buy,buy,buy again?
The PCs are only 3ft apart. I gues I will have to shift the USB cable, each time, from one to the other.

What a carry on.                   Thnx,          luke




 

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Reply #4 - Jul 24th, 2005 at 4:28am

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It's extremely easy with two network cards and a crossover cable. Just plug them in and the wizards can do the rest of the work...very cheap aswell.
 

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Reply #5 - Jul 24th, 2005 at 11:50am

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Quote:
It is surprisingly simple.  Want to make it even easier... get XP on the other machine too....it's a snap then.



eeeer..........

Ok, John, your in the line of fire next time I attempt a "simple" network connection.

I am fairly confident on most common PC operations, but networking is absolutely daunting for me, and I cringe when I have to do it.

It can be incredibly complex to hook up two pc's side by side, so, now I know who to turn to for help!

Actually, I'm surprised there is no dedicated forum in SimV for it.
 

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Reply #6 - Jul 24th, 2005 at 2:53pm

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Thnx all,

Got two 10/100mbit Ethernet PCI Adapters + a
"...Patch cableCAT.5E FTP Crossover..." from PC Fair £11.

Installed them on both PCs, (NO instructions onlyFlopy),
cabled & them up.

The winXP gives "Local Area Connection" which runs & shows "connected" 100 Mbps & shows
send 23,000   send 4,000.

The win98 one was not so easy because I used the setup program from the card's floppy, but when by chance run it again from the floppy winXP creaded,
it showed more sence, BUT alas, the "..my Network Places..." it advise to click in Start & join the other PC, is no were to be found.

Not even in CtrlPnl or Assessories or with search.


CtrPnl "Network" shows clients, MSFamily & Win Log on, 32bit PCI Ethernet, TCP/IPs etc.

Even the winXP one has no "my network places" !

Can you Help please,                 luke
 

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Reply #7 - Jul 24th, 2005 at 4:54pm

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Be sure to name your WORKGROUP the same on both computers! I think Win98 names it something other than the defaul WinXP 'MSHOME'. I would change both of them to something original.
 

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Reply #8 - Jul 24th, 2005 at 6:36pm

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I think I managed to change the workgroup name, by seting up network again on both.

Unfortunately the re is still NO "My Network Places" to click on and join the network with the win98 PC.

Anything else ?.

Seems Congo was right with complexities.      luke
 

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Reply #9 - Jul 25th, 2005 at 1:36am

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Networking is very simple.

Get a switch and hook your computers up to the switch with cat5 or cat5e straight-though cables. Make sure both computers have the same workgroup and bam your done, no other config necessary. A switch is very cheap these days and works much better than using a crossover cable in a peer to peer connection.

Personally, I'd get a router with a built-in switch (which is also cheap). That way, you can connect your router's WAN connection to your ISP's border router. This allows you to have a fast lan and share your internet connection much faster than using a host pc to 'distribute' connections.
 

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Reply #10 - Jul 25th, 2005 at 4:40am

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Thnx Autopilot,

Resources allowed just the two Ethenet cards + cable.

The second PC will not take winXP.

The winXP PC reports connection to the other.

All it seems needed now is to find why "My Network Places" does not appear on the win98 one, so that I can click on it and network the winXP PC.

JBaymore says he done it, I wish he reads this and pinpoint my difficulty.                luke
 

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Reply #11 - Jul 25th, 2005 at 1:44pm

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I haven't used win98 in years, but isn't there supposed to be a my network places icon on the desktop?
 

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Reply #12 - Jul 25th, 2005 at 3:15pm

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This one shows only "Network Neighbourhoods".

I found it and made show on the desktop with TweakUI.

BUT when I doubleclick it it only opens the win explorer to "entire network" and a couple of network names I must have made.

It does nothing to join or see the other PC.

As I have not seen networking operating, do'nt know what I am looking for really.

On the winXP PC, when i click on the "Local Area Connection" icon, the Local Area Connection Status comes up showing connection to, presumably the other PC via the cable between them, at Sent 34,472 bytes & receive 4,008 bytes.

BUT how can I get on the winXP's Broadband via the other PC?     That is the question?             luke
 

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Reply #13 - Jul 26th, 2005 at 10:23pm

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On Win'98, the icon is somewhere simple where you wouldn't expect it, that's all I can remember, sry.

Have you tried right clicking on the network neighborhood icon and selecting properties from the drop down menu?

If you get a networking icon in the system tray, (quick launch toolbar), try right clicking and going to it's properties, I think it takes you to that folder,  again I can't remember exactly.

It's handy to have that icon in the toolbar, if it doesn't exist, try going to the networking options in explorer and find the little check box that puts it there.

In those same networking options, you will need to set IP adresses for the adapters, TCP/IP protocols etc, etc.

When you start getting into Internet Connection Sharing, and configuring that thru a firewall, you get into some real headaches. I think Autopilot is probably right, if I understand him correcty, by going thru a "hub", it may simplify things.

I have gotten it all working perfectly and then I come up with a Stupid problem like when in a multiplayer game over the LAN connection, One player's bullets and weapons have no effect on the other player, that's how crazy it seems to get.

I wouldn't listen to me though, go with someone else who knows how to do it "simply".   Tongue
 

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Reply #14 - Jul 26th, 2005 at 11:36pm

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luke,

Just got your PM.  I should have some time tomorrow to see if I can figure this out for you.

best,

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