Simviation Forum - What aircraft is this?

Jul 13^th, 2005 at 7:02am

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what is this?
Air force junior?
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/877945/M/

Hope you can give me an answer

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Reply #1 - Jul 13^th, 2005 at 8:28am

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Well according to the information at the bottom of the page it is a VC-9C Wink

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Reply #2 - Jul 13^th, 2005 at 8:59am

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no, i mean, what its use?
what do you use it for??

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Reply #3 - Jul 13^th, 2005 at 9:52am

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VIP transport. If the president were to fly in it on a short hop, the IT would be "Air Force 1"....

Q: What's the smallest USAF plane to have become "Air Force 1" (or it's equivalent?)

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Reply #4 - Jul 13^th, 2005 at 9:52am

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Flying?

I think it is the Vice-Presidents plane, best to ask one of our American experts I'm sure they'll know Wink

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Reply #5 - Jul 13^th, 2005 at 9:54am

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Piper Cub? Grin

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Reply #6 - Jul 13^th, 2005 at 10:48am

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Piper Cub? Grin

I *think* if memory serves me right, it was one of the smaller Aero Commanders ...

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Reply #7 - Jul 13^th, 2005 at 11:12am

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Oh okay, I know Ike learnt to fly on a Cub Wink

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Reply #8 - Jul 13^th, 2005 at 3:58pm

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It was an Aero Commander 500, Ike used it when campaigning for re-election. Theres even a repaint of it for Milton Schupes AC500.

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Reply #9 - Jul 13^th, 2005 at 6:16pm

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I think its the USAF plane used for the personal use of the Presidential dogs, much in the same way 32 Sqn (the Royal Sqn) of the RAF has the BAe 125 to carry the Queens corgis...

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Reply #10 - Jul 14^th, 2005 at 5:40pm

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like the caption says.....it's a C-9 or "VC-9"(essentially a DC-9 with the military throwing there $.02 in the designation).
Despite the Air Force one-esque paintjob, most C-9's are used for MAC flights( or...... not-so-VIP's).

The Marine Corps even has one with an accordion style, fold-down ramp, that when extended, is about 10mX3m!
The "band" travels around in it. I've seen it in person. They pulled up with, what looked like, a giant ping-pong table in the cargo door. The crewchief yells "stand back"(OK...... I added that part for affect) and then this thing extends out, Inspector Gadget style.
The backup for AF-1 is a the 757 and after that, they have a Gulfstream or two.

.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......

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Reply #11 - Jul 14^th, 2005 at 6:09pm

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VC-9s were used as AF-1 during the Clinton years. He liked visiting smaller airports and sometimes needed the smaller planes.

A couple of times Clinton even flew on smaller planes like the Gulfstreams.

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Reply #12 - Aug 1^st, 2005 at 11:45pm

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When I livend in Keene NH Clinton Visited in a Beechjet 400A and his press in a Lear 35. Was pretty cool to watch as they let us almost right up to the plane to take pictures etc.

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Reply #13 - Aug 11^th, 2005 at 2:17am

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I would've thought it was an older AF-1, but then I remembered how old the 747 is. lol

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Reply #14 - Aug 12^th, 2005 at 8:32am

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....The backup for AF-1 is a the 757 and after that, they have a Gulfstream or two.

the backup for AF-1 is another 747

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Reply #15 - Oct 18^th, 2005 at 1:01pm

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As has been said already, its just another plane for the US goverment. Chances are that the president may never have flown in that aircraft?! It would have been used for the presidentual party and associates that would follow on. Clinton/Bush would have most likely gone on a Gulfstream or another aircraft (which would have become airforce 1)

Here are some more:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/897920/M/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/875365/M/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/811470/M/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/804245/M/

The list goes on but I think all of you get the jist!

Hope that helped

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Reply #16 - Jan 3^rd, 2006 at 9:11pm

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It's a C-9C. it's part of the SAM or Special Air Missions wing of the Air force charged with transporting any VIP including the President, Vice President, Members of Congress and othe US dignitaries. They are also the folks who take care of the VC -25s (The 747 version). The airforce also uses a version called the Nightingale for medical transport and the Navy calls them Skytrains.

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Reply #17 - Jan 15^th, 2006 at 11:24am

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I don't think it matters what aircraft it is. If the president goes for a ride in a piper cub, an ultralight or a bell 47 it is automaticly designated with the call sign "Air Force One". i don't think they would be big enough to hold all the Secret Service Agents though.

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Reply #18 - Jan 15^th, 2006 at 1:03pm

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I don't think it matters what aircraft it is. If the president goes for a ride in a piper cub, an ultralight or a bell 47 it is automaticly designated with the call sign "Air Force One". i don't think they would be big enough to hold all the Secret Service Agents though.

I believe that the smallest "Air Force 1" was an Aero Commander......

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Reply #19 - Jan 15^th, 2006 at 1:29pm

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I don't think it matters what aircraft it is. If the president goes for a ride in a piper cub, an ultralight or a bell 47 it is automaticly designated with the call sign "Air Force One". i don't think they would be big enough to hold all the Secret Service Agents though.

Not entirely accurate. Any fixed-wing aircraft the president flys in is designated Air Force 1 while he is in the aircraft. Any rotary-wing aircraft (V-22 might fall here, but I'm not sure) that the president is in is designated Marine 1. Any watercraft the president is in is called Navy 1 (last time this was officially used was with Truman I believe).
There is no "Air Force 1" aircraft. When Bush goes to Camp David, if his VC-25 is to leave to take the Chaney somewhere, it loses is Air Force 1 designation and goes by its registration number.

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