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Reply #15 - Jul 11th, 2005 at 6:25pm

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We did the same thing..
Except the other way around!
We used to allow it for a long time until many members were saying things that were pretty offensive.


We had a POLL and it came back almost 100% were in favor of not discussing politics on this forum.

So there you go!  8)

Erm... And when did this happen? I've been here longer than you and I don't remember it. Tongue
 
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Reply #16 - Jul 11th, 2005 at 6:32pm

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Erm... And when did this happen? I've been here longer than you and I don't remember it. Tongue

I was thinking the same. I dont actually ever remember politics being actively allowed. Petes ruling until recently was "discouraged" but not banned. Maybe there was an independant thing run by someone, but i dont ever remember there being an official poll that actually decided the fate of this. ???
 
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Reply #17 - Jul 11th, 2005 at 6:33pm

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Reply #18 - Jul 11th, 2005 at 6:37pm

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It happened, trust me...

When was it then?
 
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Reply #19 - Jul 11th, 2005 at 6:40pm

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October 28, 1972 at 3:23 AM GMT.  All members with names beggining with W were excluded for fear of ressurecting the Whig Party.  Sorry man, we didn't want to hurt your feelings...
 
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Reply #20 - Jul 11th, 2005 at 6:44pm

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October 28, 1972 at 3:23 AM GMT.  All members with names beggining with W were excluded for fear of ressurecting the Whig Party.  Sorry man, we didn't want to hurt your feelings...

Ah. My Tardis was out of order then. Thats probably why I missed it.
 
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Reply #21 - Jul 11th, 2005 at 6:52pm

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If I remember correctly, politics & religion was not encouraged but not actually banned. The mods here have always been very sensible & dealt with the whole thing admirably. IMHO
That's until a few people started kicking up a fuss about them not being fair which has caused a lot of bad feeling & the present 'zero tolerance' policy. In my view a voluntary ban was always the best solution but it's not always easy to know what's acceptable as we all come from very different cultures. Roll Eyes

I also brought this up when Brensec proposed a History forum. I was originally against the idea as it's almost impossible to discuss history without mentioning these subjects. Fortunately it seems to have worked out so far as most contributors are sensible people & genuinely interested in history.
 
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Reply #22 - Jul 12th, 2005 at 2:32am

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We had a POLL and it came back almost 100% were in favor of not discussing politics on this forum.

Yes indeed we did. It was unanimously decided no politics or religion.
 
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Reply #23 - Jul 12th, 2005 at 10:54am

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Reply #24 - Jul 12th, 2005 at 10:58am
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We had a POLL and it came back almost 100% were in favor of not discussing politics on this forum.

So there you go!  8)


But that was ages ago, cant we have another vote with the current users. Plus, in the wake of cetain unmentionables politics has become part of everybodies daily life. I reckon the results of a new poll would be very different Wink.
 
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Reply #25 - Jul 12th, 2005 at 11:34am
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If you take into account some recent activities on the forums and especially some rising tensions and people who feel the forums have taken a change for the worst. Then I don't think that something like politics which has the tendency to stirr things really up will have any chance of being accepted let alone be supported. I think once more that the banning of politics is really good!

Ow yeah.. I like to debate about politics too! I do so with my friends but not in public on these very forums Grin
 
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Reply #26 - Jul 12th, 2005 at 11:51am

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Well you have asked about "where" & "when" these discussions took place? Here are the answers.

As you can see Woody, it does not matter how long you have been here, but how much time you actually spend here  Wink

See here from past conversations about this subject!


Pete asked all of us about how we all felt about discussing international War and here it is!
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=gen;action=display;num=104...

Scott "Hype" also questioned politics & religion!
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=gen;action=display;num=106...

And once again, the subject was brought up again in October of 2004! This is the most recent. As you can see out of 43 total votes, 83% do not wish to discuss, 9.3% did want to discuss and 6.9% did not care to discuss politics.
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=gen;action=display;num=109...


As you can see, over and over new people question as to "Why"? Please read all the comments posted by All the members in the above threds and you will see why these rules have been put into place. Some of you newer members might also get to "know" some of the older members a bit better too! The reason is that the majority do not want to discuss politics, religious beliefs and War. It has a proven track record of dividing the forums and reeking havoc among members. They are topics that eventually bring negative comments to these forums and they are subjects that will be not be welcomed here.


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Reply #27 - Jul 12th, 2005 at 12:12pm
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Point.

But you say that the majority don't want to discuss politics, i beg to differ with you here, but that aside, there is no law saying that they do have to join in with the discussion, is there ???
 
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Reply #28 - Jul 12th, 2005 at 12:17pm

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Mistral. Please accept the fact that discussing religion & politics invariably leads to rising tempers, insults & flame wars. This is not the way we do things at Simviation. As has been mentioned before, there are plenty of specialised sites where you can do this to your heart's content. Wink
 
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Reply #29 - Jul 12th, 2005 at 12:18pm

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Basically, it boils down to this:

This is one of the oldest and most respected flight sim sites on the web.  About the only 2 that may be older are Avsim amd Flightsim and I'm not too sure about Flightsim.  This site has lasted so long and achieved that recognition for a reason.  That reason is the guidance of the webmaster, Pete.  While other sites have come and gone, and degraded into payware clearing houses, Pete has toed the line and kept his site remarkable similar to what it was when I visted here first, almost 6 years ago.

As members, your voice in this site counts, and is listened to.  But also, you need to realize that Pete knows what he is doing and there is a reason for everything he does here, no matter how unusual it may seem.  You may not always know what goes on behind the scenes, but be certain that Pete does nothing that is not in this site's best interest.  Banning Politics and Religion is not some ego thing, and he doesn't get a power trip out of it.  It is simply the best way to ensure the quality of this site.

It's not going to happen, so just let it go.

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