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Jun 14th, 2005 at 4:10am

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Hi,

last night I was surfing on the net looking for detailed hardware info about my video card (Sapphire 9600 PRO Advantage 128 MB) since I wanted to check if my card supports temperature monitor (unfortunately it doesn't  Embarrassed ).
Instead of that I found detailed info about the memory chip of the card (Samsung...don't remember the model) reading that they can run up to 500 Mhz (250 Mhz DDR).
The card is running (overclocked) at 470 MHz instead of 446 and trying to overclock more to 500 I noticed that they get hot in a while.
I thought about buying a heatsink but another idea jumped on my mind: is it possibile to replace those chips with others that support a higher clock? I saw from the online datasheet that there are chips of the same type but that can run up to 700 Mhz.
Did someone here try to replace video memory chip?
Is it possible to do?

Best regards,

Bob
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Reply #1 - Jun 14th, 2005 at 6:20am

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Hi Bob! I have heard that things like that are possible. Hard-modding, i.e. anything that involves a soldering iron! I haven never tried it or have any knowledge of it, but I would think that if you are prepared to replace the card then it could be well worth following up!
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Reply #2 - Jun 14th, 2005 at 9:29am

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Well...for a long time I worked as TV repair technician and to replace those chips I would need a hot air solder but I think that the bigger problem would be finding those chips without being forced to buy "a hundred" of them (I need only 4 chips).

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Reply #3 - Jun 14th, 2005 at 9:36am

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The chips are hard-wired to the card. It would be most difficult at best to replace them even if you could find suitable chips to buy.

You're only real option is to buy RAMsinks to put on the memory chips to help cool them. You can find those at any electronics store. Couple that with better case fans/airflow, and high-end VGA heatsink/fan, and you may be able to get a slightly better overclock.

Ramsinks: http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=139&code=013

VGA cooler with RAMsinks: http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=149&code=013
 

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Reply #4 - Jun 15th, 2005 at 6:07pm

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Messing about with new RAM chips is a complete non starter.

I'd swap your existing card for a GeForce 6600 / GT, it'll transform your current FS9 experience.
 

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Reply #5 - Jun 19th, 2005 at 9:17am

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Usually, Ram heatsinks are pretty much for show unless your are applying more voltage, the ram may run a little hotter though if overclocked.

It's the GPU chip that cops the heat during overclock the most. (If you are o/c'ing your GPU)

Modern ram dissipates heat readily though it's thin, high surface area design. Your overclock is only mild, don't worry about the ram temp unless those chips are hot enough to just about burn the back of your finger, if you can rest soft skin on it without burning, it's cool enough.

You'll probably see  artifacts (display abnormalities) as soon as you have  overclocked too far, and if you see artifacts, you are in a danger zone, so back it off a bit.

You can't change the memory chips. They are actually one of the defining factors in your's card's design. Out of the nvidia 5000 series, The 5900XT has the most overclocking potential I believe,  as it is very similar to the 5900 ultra, and some brands are fitted with high quality memory that is under-rated.

If your research shows that your chips are of higher spec than your card's default, chances are it will overclock very well indeed.

Just be careful. I've never burnt out a video card despite some rather rash early attempts at overclocking them, but it's certainly possible to damage them that way. Video card overclocking needs to be done right or not at all in my opinion, and you need a card that does it well enough to make it worthwhile, otherwise you may as well buy a better card in the first place.

My 5900XT is one of the exceptions, it's design begs for overclocking and it does it well.

The last card I had was a GF TI4200 128mb 8x AGP, and it was a hopeless overclocker, getting hot quick and showing artifacts with modest overclocks.

When I bought my card online, I asked the guy at the store he could verify the RAM onboard it was the brand and latency I had read positive reviews about. Now, that involves an "out of the box" physical inspection before purchasing the card, so you need a pretty good relationship with your PC parts dealer, otherwise it can be pot luck when it comes to recieving a good overclocker or not.   8)
 

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Reply #6 - Jun 21st, 2005 at 9:56am

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I disagree for the ti4200

i owned one and I could overclock it to 400/800 without coolking proble, I just had to remove the side plates of my computer's case
 

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Reply #7 - Jun 21st, 2005 at 6:53pm

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Quote:
I disagree for the ti4200

i owned one and I could overclock it to 400/800 without coolking proble, I just had to remove the side plates of my computer's case


The fact you had to remove the sides of your case, describes nothing but a heat problem, I'm afraid.  Wink
 

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Reply #8 - Jun 21st, 2005 at 10:58pm

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I would not hardmod anything unless you know exactly what your doing nd from the sound of it, you don;t (no offense).

I suggest you get a better card like a 6600 gt. That card puts 9800 xt to shame. And it overclocks like there's no tommorow.
 

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